Collagen Implants, Anybody?

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Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
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   Posted 9/20/2007 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I searched for this but came up with nothing. I may be misspelling it.  As I just posted in another thread, after failure at Bio-Feedback, my therapist suggested I speak with the doctor about a callagen implant.  I actually tested for this procedure after surgery, but decided not to do it after reading how short-lived it really is.  However, she said it would be worth a try and it may give my sphincter muscle time to catch up.  I know there has been a post or two about this, but I can't find it now.  Can anyone help me or has anyone had experience with this?
 
Gene
Age: 63
First biopsy 07/05;
Diagnosed: "Suspicious looking cells". Dr. says wait and watch.
Second biopsy: 12/27/06
Diagnosed cancer: 01/24/07
Gleason Grade: 3+3=6
Radical Open Nerve-sparing Prostatetomy: 02-14-07
Cancer confined to prostate
Pathology Stage of cancer: T2c
First Post-Op PSA on 04-18-07: 0.011
Bleeding problem at 6 weeks post surgery...No resolution despite several trips to surgeon, antibiotic treatment.
05/31/07: Cystoscope reveals "stone", due to "Stricture" (narrowing of uretha at prostate removal site).
06/12/07: Procedure to remove stone & dilate uretha at stricture: Successful procedure, but is most likely a temporary fix, and incontinence continues.
8/16/07: Start bleeding again in urine.  Get to see a new urologist same day.  He thinks stricture is back, but send home with Cipro.
8/20/07: Go back to dr. for cystoscope.  "No sign of stricture"!  Wonderful news! Still leaking.
8/31/07: Back to new urologist for regular check up & received 2nd post-op Psa.  It was 0.05 (non-deteactable).  PTL! But still leaking
8/31/07:  First Bio Feedback session.  The little lady is very positive that I can gain control.  That's what I want more than her.  New urologist is not very sold on effectiveness of Kegals???
9/19/07: Finished 4 Bio Feedback sessions.  No imporovement with leaking. Recommended possible callegen implant. She noticed from 8/20 cysto that my sphincter was ... too short?... huh?   
 
 
 


Biff
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Date Joined Apr 2006
Total Posts : 13
   Posted 9/22/2007 6:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Gene, I personally have not had a cologen treatment, but have spoken to someone who has. He told me it lasted for a short while only. Now that may not be the case with you, as I am not a dR. I have had incontinence for over 15 months now after my prostate surgery. It is driving me nuts. Also, has wrecked my life. The dr. is going to give me an implant called the sphincter 800, which is the collar device that works as the sphincter. He is going to give me the penile implant at the same time, as that hasnt workws either, cause he had to take the nerves on the right side out. I am only 54 years old, so I need that back. I was on this web site looking for someone who has had either implant to get their advice when I saw your question. Hope everything works out for you. Good luck and may God bless.
Biff

Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 9/22/2007 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the reply, Biff.  KW's journey has all kind of incontience info & I think someone bumpted it up after your reply.  I will go there & read and maybe you will gain some information too from it.  I do not think I have read of anyone on the board who has had the penile implant but I think I have read where someone had the artificial sphincter.  I think it was a couple of weeks ago, but I don't remember who it was.  Again, Thanks.
 
I am supposed to talk to the doctor about the collogan implant next week so I would like to know all I can about it.  My therapist thinks it could give my sphincter the boost it needs to start working, although I am a little doubious of it.
 
Gene
Age: 63
First biopsy 07/05;
Diagnosed: "Suspicious looking cells". Dr. says wait and watch.
Second biopsy: 12/27/06
Diagnosed cancer: 01/24/07
Gleason Grade: 3+3=6
Radical Open Nerve-sparing Prostatetomy: 02-14-07
Cancer confined to prostate
Pathology Stage of cancer: T2c
First Post-Op PSA on 04-18-07: 0.011
Bleeding problem at 6 weeks post surgery...No resolution despite several trips to surgeon, antibiotic treatment.
05/31/07: Cystoscope reveals "stone", due to "Stricture" (narrowing of uretha at prostate removal site).
06/12/07: Procedure to remove stone & dilate uretha at stricture: Successful procedure, but is most likely a temporary fix, and incontinence continues.
8/16/07: Start bleeding again in urine.  Get to see a new urologist same day.  He thinks stricture is back, but send home with Cipro.
8/20/07: Go back to dr. for cystoscope.  "No sign of stricture"!  Wonderful news! Still leaking.
8/31/07: Back to new urologist for regular check up & received 2nd post-op Psa.  It was 0.05 (non-deteactable).  PTL! But still leaking
8/31/07:  First Bio Feedback session.  The little lady is very positive that I can gain control.  That's what I want more than her.  New urologist is not very sold on effectiveness of Kegals???
9/19/07: Finished 4 Bio Feedback sessions.  No imporovement with leaking. Recommended possible callegen implant. She noticed from 8/20 cysto that my sphincter was ... too short?... huh?   
 
 
 


Hagrid
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 60
   Posted 9/24/2007 9:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Gene, from another Gene.

I had the injections done three times. Only minimal help, and I think simply the swelling due to the needle caused the minimal temporary change.

4 years ago I opted for the artificial urinary clamp. It was the best decision I ever made.

(Other than marrying my wonderful wife, who saved me life when I was diagnosed by making the connection to my doctor, nursed me back, and generally gives me my inspiration. We had only known each other two months. But that's another story.)

bluebird
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   Posted 9/24/2007 12:06 PM (GMT -7)   
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