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Doting Daughter
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   Posted 10/29/2007 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I am just curious if anyone is taking Vitamin D 3 or any additional natural supplements or vitamins.  I have seen Pomegranite Extract mentioned a few times, however, after reading Snuffy Meyer's book, I am curious if anyone else is taking the supplements he reccomends. 
Also, if you happen to be on Vitamin D 3, where are you getting the supplement?  Thanks for your help!  Happy almost Halloween!
 
Doting
Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7 
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
In process of determining follow up therapy
 
 


Cedar Chopper
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 432
   Posted 10/30/2007 3:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Morning Doting,

I take Vitamin D.  I think it is 1,000 units a day or 4 times the RDA.
I just buy the generic.
I'd prefer to get it from fish oil (e.g., cod liver) sources,
  but I haven't found a reliable
   (maybe not organic but I'm cautious about mercury),
      inexpensive source.

I am a big fan of the research on Vitamin D, not only for calcium incorporation,
but recent articles on preventing cancer, lower blood pressure, etc.

I am now cautious about taking multi-vitamins.
   (This is an important point!)
As I am not pregnant and there is no chance I will become so :),
I'm avoiding the Folic Acid
  in these supplements as
research suggests they seem to accelerate all cell growth,
including cancer.  Those with a cancer diagnosis must look into this.

I haven't read Dr. Snuffy Meyer's book, but that and Dr. Walsch's
 both receive the highest marks here!

You are a saint!  Happy All Saint's Day!

CCedar
ICTHUS!

2 Years of PSA between 4 and 5.5  + Biopsy 23DEC06 
Only 5 percent cancer in one of 8 samples.  +  Gleeson 3+3=6
Radical Prostatectomy 16FEB07 at age 54.
1+" tumor - touching inside edge of gland.  + Confined:)
Pad Free @ 14 weeks.  Six Month PSA <.003  :)
At 6 months, ED treated with Pump Exercises & 50mg Viagra Daily
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Swimom
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   Posted 10/30/2007 4:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Doting,

Vitamin D and calcium are taken together and should be split into 2 doses for best results. If Dad takes any thyroid meds, they should be seperated by 4-5 hours. Calcium lessens the affects of thyroid meds.

While more is not better, not enough isn't good either. 400 IU of D and 1000-1200 mg. of calcium is the suggested dose for both men and women. Many you find are mixed together since they are a team :>) Most OTC brands are pretty decent when it comes to vitamins. CVS is the only brand I won't waste my money buying.

Stay well, Swim
 


aus
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Total Posts : 211
   Posted 10/30/2007 4:36 AM (GMT -7)   

Dear DD,

My diet is very similar to Dr Myers suggested mediterranean diet, and I take some of his suggested supplements, including  selenium and D3.

Tests with pomegranite suggest it helps heart and prostate. I have the juice, which does seem to help the plumbing.
 
I obtain everything locally in Aus, but it is  available online from Life Extension Foundation (LEF.org) and from Iherb.com

Ripandburn
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Total Posts : 125
   Posted 10/30/2007 7:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I am currently taking 4000 IU of Vitamin D 3 daily. My osteopath suggested that I get my levels checked when I was diagnosed with Pca. At that time my levels were low. He told me that most men will have low levels. We don't get enough sun. I need to get retested soon, and the levels that I take will probably drop. It is a fact that people with low vitamin D levels are at more of a risk of developing cancer.

As far as Vitamins.....I take a lot of them. My wife....as the kids say....is "the vitamin queen". I am sure they all help. Can't hurt.

As far as where to get them, we have been purchasing from I-Herb for a long time now. They do an excellent job, have excellent prices, and delivery is good.
51 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
PSA after 6 weeks <0.1 - undetectable
11 weeks post-op - no more pads


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 10/30/2007 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the great responses! I appreciate them all! 

Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7 
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
In process of determining follow up therapy
 
 


StrictlyInc
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 353
   Posted 11/1/2007 1:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I take vitamin D3. My sports medicine / longevity doctor advised me to take it. Good for disease prevention, among other things.

Also, African Americans and other with darker complexions tend to have vitamin D deficiencies more than our fairer skinned friends.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-12 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007)

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline, ordered to be celibate for 6 weeks.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .545 (5 for 9)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2)

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Swimom
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   Posted 11/1/2007 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Selmer,

A daily average, OTC dose of a multi-vitamin provides a reasonable and safe amount for people who already eat healthy diets. Men being treated for PCa using hormone deprivation therapy should be takinga B-50, D and Calcium..albiet not in excessive doses. Perhaps in doses matching that of a menopausal female. The risk for fractures and anemia is at least similar. Weight bearing excersise is always a bone wise thing to do as well (of course we already know this..darned excersise!). Excersise helps prevents bone loss and muscle weakness. Someday I'll take that adivse :>)

Those on other types of therapy should consult with his medical oncologist before adding a vitamin to his diet. Vitamins can and do interfere with some medications, conditions and therapy. Chemo, radiation, thyroid / parathyroid drugs and diseases, blood thinners, just to name a few. Seeking a few wise words of a Doc is always a good idea. Its really hard to keep up on what does what and to whom. This is one reason we use a naturalpathic Physician.

Be well, Swim
 


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 11/1/2007 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Selmer-
Thanks for the info.  I should probably change the title and exclude vitamins. I have actually read quite a bit online regarding vitamins and supplements and the only one that I am really interested in at this point is Vitamin D3.  There are so many studies that show positive results for men with Prostate Cancer along with other cancers who have taken Vitamin D3 and for men on HT it also has been shown to help with preventing osteoporosis.   It seems as though regardless of what you take, there are risks as you mention and they benefits obviously have to outweigh the risks.  I appeciate your insight and research.
 
Strictly Inc.-
What dose of Vitamin D3 are you taking and are you having labs done regularly?  Thanks for any info! 
 
 
Doting
Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7 
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
In process of determining follow up therapy
 
 


Swimom
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Date Joined Apr 2006
Total Posts : 1732
   Posted 11/1/2007 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Doting,

Unless your Dad has a measured deficiency, D3 is recommended as a 400iu daily dose with a max of 2000iu. Calcium doses are split in 2 doses a day so probably best split the D3 as well. Shoot me an-email and I will send you a cool article. Hope it helps. I'm a puter numb brain...can send it to you but not to the site...


Gotta run, Swim
 


StrictlyInc
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 353
   Posted 11/2/2007 1:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Doting Daughter said...


Strictly Inc.-

What dose of Vitamin D3 are you taking and are you having labs done regularly? Thanks for any info!





Doting


My sports medicine doctor has tested me about 3 times in the last couple of years (somewhat interrupted by my prostatectomy and recovery).

I take 5000 IU per day, but not religiously every day.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-12 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007)

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline, ordered to be celibate for 6 weeks.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .545 (5 for 9)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2)

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."

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