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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 1015
   Posted 11/1/2007 12:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I apologize for being "out of commission" so long! nono
I have been working 12-14 hour days for the past three weeks (major crunch time at work) and it won't let up much until the end of November (oh... I do get Thanksgiving off).  I go to work very early in the morning and I often need to attend meetings with co-workers in foreign countries between 11:00pm and 12:30am Mountain Time (need sleep).
I can see the forum is doing very well, but do I miss my dear co-moderator, bluebird, as you do.  I also miss your words of encouragement and support to one other as these expressions lift my spirits as well!
I will try to do much better in being on-line.   Forgive me? :-)

You all are the best!!!
Sincerely, your friend,
Idaho (your re-appearing moderator)

"Idaho" ~ Barry


Da Vinci Surgery July 31, 2007… 54 on surgery day
PSA 4.3  Gleason 3+3=6  T2a  Confined to Prostate

1st PSA 0.04 (undetectable) 9/11/2007

My web site:

Veteran Member

Date Joined Jan 2007
Total Posts : 762
   Posted 11/1/2007 1:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Idaho,

What an interesting (yet busy!) work time for you... but take a rest mate!
Thank you for all you do, Barry. You do an excellent job here always....
Creed_three (Lana & CJ)
Husband CJ aged 49 yrs. 
First PSA 3.5 (Nov 06). 1 x (5%) core of 12 positive at biopsy. 11 cores negative. Open Radical Prostatectomy with nerve sparing, on Tuesday 17th April 2007 (Sydney, Australia). Gleeson 3 + 4 = 7.  Cancer confined to prostate. Margins all clear, including bladder neck and seminal vessicles. 
1st PSA 0.01 - undetectable (June 07)
2nd PSA 0.02 - undetectable (Oct 07)

Veteran Member

Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 1219
   Posted 11/1/2007 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Idaho,

I understand the hours, though it causes stress, sometimes that's the only way to get things done! (Pipeline construction calls for as many hours as a person can work!) :-)
Take care of yourself and get the shuteye you need.

Husband Diagnosed 11/17/05 Age: 63 No Symptoms
PSA: 7.96, Positive DRE
Biopsy Right: 6 of 6 Cores Positive Biopsy Left: 1 of 6 Cores Positive
Gleason: 4+3 = 7 Stage: T2B N0 MX
3 mo. PSA Post LRP Surgery: 11.8, 12.9, 13.9 Bone scan, CT scan, Endorectal MRI, Chest XR - neg.
09/06/06: 6 mo. PSA: 18.8 Distant lymph node involvement Start HT Lupron 3 mo. shots
12/06/06: PSA 0.8
03/07/07: PSA 0.3
06/06/07: PSA 0.1
09/05/07: PSA 0.1

Regular Member

Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 474
   Posted 11/1/2007 8:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Idaho - as a freelancer, I can certainly understand! We joke that a work week is 32/8 instead of 24/7! Just as you and MamaB are here for us - back at ya!
Husband age 66
PSA on 5/1/06: 4.2 (had doubled in 13 mos. and rising monthly)
DaVinci Surgery 8/2/06 - Austin, TX w/Dr. Randy F.A.G.I.N.
T2a (at biopsy)
At pathology - cancer cell leakage into fatty tissue
Post-Surgical PSA on 10/06, 4/07 - undetectable!
Update: 11/1/06 - perhaps bladder neck involvement; 30%-50% chance of recurrence
PSA test "Un-zero-detectable" on 10/16/07.
If it stays that way for 7 years, recurrence rate drops to 9%.
Future: PSA tests twice-yearly for now.

Veteran Member

Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1464
   Posted 11/1/2007 12:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Barry,

Glad you checked in. Get some rest and we'll see you when you have time...

Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Pathological stage: T2C. Gleason 3+4. Cancer confined to prostate.
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 10/17/07 0.00. 
Started Tri-Mix on 8/7/07.  .05 ml and 50 mg Viagra.  It works!!!
Next PSA test on 1/15/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."

Veteran Member

Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 1015
   Posted 11/1/2007 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for all the kind remarks!  I really appreciate it!

Best regards,


"Idaho" ~ Barry


Da Vinci Surgery July 31, 2007… 54 on surgery day
PSA 4.3  Gleason 3+3=6  T2a  Confined to Prostate

1st PSA 0.04 (undetectable) 9/11/2007

My web site:

Veteran Member

Date Joined Apr 2006
Total Posts : 818
   Posted 11/1/2007 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Barry,

You pace yourself so you don't get sick, OK? I know work demands super-human effort some times, but all that OT will just put you in a higher income bracket. Tax season was the same story for me, and before working in compliance I didn't have a single gray hair on my head...well maybe one or two. Take your vitamines, eat right (BBQ'd brisket is good), and do some walking (it will help you sleep).

Good luck,


Diagnosed at age 60
PSA went from 2.2 to 3.8 in 14 months
2 of 14 cores positive at 10%
Gleason 6(3+3), negative DRE, neg. margins
DaVinci surgery on 02/23/06
Last PSA 08/26/07 @ 18 months "0"

Veteran Member

Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 1015
   Posted 11/2/2007 12:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Glen...

'tis very good advice!

I hope you're doing well, my friend.


"Idaho" ~ Barry


Da Vinci Surgery July 31, 2007… 54 on surgery day
PSA 4.3  Gleason 3+3=6  T2a  Confined to Prostate

1st PSA 0.04 (undetectable) 9/11/2007

My web site:

Cedar Chopper
Regular Member

Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 432
   Posted 11/2/2007 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   

Your work here is so very much appreciated.
Your coherent calming influence and spot-on research is always exactly what we need.
(Your friends here know to shoot you an email if we need your help right away.)

Being in the food business, this time of year is crunch time for us, too.
Our little joke concerns "leaving early":

"Only working a half-day?  Yes, I'm only working 12 hours....."

When young people I work with approach me about choosing this career, 
I always advise them that
if they don't really like this type of work
and especially the people they find here,
    - choose something else!



P.S., Glen, we Texans always like to hear someone recommend BBQ brisket! 

Mike A
Regular Member

Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 213
   Posted 11/3/2007 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
For all you have done on here for me, as well so many others, you never need to apologize to anyone. Healing well is the name of the game, you take whatever time you need to do just that! I could tell you not to work so hard, but I know from personal experience that advise usually falls on deaf ears. Just know that you are appreciated by all of us on Healingwell, , and we look forward to hearing from you whenever you have the time.
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical
October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist
November 2005 - Biopsy negative
July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical
October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1
November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive
December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear.
February 2007 - Three to four pads a day, no erection with viagara.
March 2007 - Down to two pads a day, had first intercourse with Erecaid pump and bands, otherwise still flat tire.
April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02 and a great relief! Down to one pad a day. Still unable to achive erection without pump.
May, 2007 - Still one pad a day, even try a smaller pad on occasion. Slight improvement on the ED.
July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 still Non-Detectable. One small pad/day for a few drops only! No change in ED.
October, 2007 - Nine Month Post-op: PSA back down to 0.02 Non-Detectable...Yay! Almost totally dry! Only slight improvement in ED - Will try injections if not improved by next appointment.
"If patience is a virtue, I feel like the most virtuous guy on the planet!"

Veteran Member

Date Joined May 2006
Total Posts : 2542
   Posted 11/7/2007 11:58 AM (GMT -6)   
tongue  Dear Barry,


What makes HealingWell’s Prostate Forum so powerful ~ is the sharing and caring of all of our members.  Working together as a Team.  It’s like a wheel with 10 spokes.  If one is missing the wheel still turns.  If two are missing the wheel still turns… If 6 are missing…. Hmmmmmm it starts to become weak.  That’s not going to happen here!!! 


  confused You don’t need to try to do better!!  And you don’t have anything to be forgiven for…  and no need to apologize. (  All of this in your 1st posting on this thread  nono   )


It’s important to all of us ~ that you take care of “YOU”.   yeah

You are still on the healing/recovery stepping-stone and we sure don’t want you back sliding!  Get the rest you need.  And know we are “all” here when the time allows…  Moving forward is part of this path we are on.... keeping close in many ways!!  We are so grateful to have you as part of this team in the form of member / friend / and moderator.

Gentle Hugs and Warm Thoughts are coming your way…

In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy

Regular Member

Date Joined Jul 2007
Total Posts : 242
   Posted 11/7/2007 8:20 PM (GMT -6)   
NO need to apologize, Barry. Life and time are demanding, and I appreciate what you do here. As bluebird said, if one spoke is missing the wheel keeps turning. We're all here to help one another.

Age: 49
Diagnosed: March 25, 2007
PSA: 3.0
Biopsy: Gleason 6. Five of twelve core samples positive with <5% each. No perineural invasion seen.
DaVinci Surgery: May 21, 2007 at Florida Hospital, Orlando, Florida. Surgery took one hour and 45 minutes. According to my surgeon, everything went textbook and the prostate peeled away nicely.
Post-op Pathology Report: Upgraded to Gleason 7 (3+4), negative margins, negative capsular penetration, negative seminal vesicles, lymph nodes left intact, multifocal perinural invasion, 15% of prosate involving cancer in both lobes.
Continence: Out of the pads at five weeks. Still have some very minor stress incontinence at times but it's not an issue. Still Kegel every day and will continue to do so.
Erections: Yes! With the assistance of Cialis.
1st Post-op PSA: <0.1 2nd Post-op PSA: <0.1
Family history: My Father had his prostate removed at age 67 in 1997 and has had a <0.1 PSA for the past 10 years. I was diagnosed at a much earlier age and had a more agressive cancer than my father. Go figure.

Regular Member

Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 365
   Posted 11/7/2007 9:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Same here Barry and to my other friends on the board.
I've also been buried in business and a few personal issues lately -- and remiss in posting here.
As the holidays approach, I have a bit to stress about, such as 22 relatives coming for Thanksgiving, including seven staying with us during the week prior and after.  ALL MY WIFE'S FAMILY!! They eat me out of house and home! 
(I'm gonna put on my Brooklyn hat and steal some dough from their wallets and pocketbooks.)  LOL.
But as far as stress goes, at least I'm not stressing about PCa at the moment --  my next PSA test is in February, so that's a good thing.
Relax Barry,
Enjoy the holiday.
You've earned it.
And, as always, Thank God for Bluebird, who holds this place together for all of us!

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

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