Posted 11/26/2007 8:16 PM (GMT -6)
Hi Vet,
I could not imagine that my, or my dad's inaction was a blame to anything. Fact is that PSA testing should be done at 40, not 50, and it should be standard protocol. The argument for it is a case like mine. There was NO family history whatsoever. None, Nada. The darn groups that speak against earlier testing say ludacrous things like "It would lead to people being treated for cancers that are not a present danger", or better yet, "It would be very costly to test every man at the age of 40". These things make me want to throw up. I was 44 when diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer. Now why would I not want to be proactive and just be tested at 40? And you now know why that this disease and the fight against it is just not getting the attention it needs. We are way too far behind in curing it to ever suggest that an ounce of prevention isn't worth that pound of cure. I know it for a fact that it is!! Shame on the agencies that do not feel it necessary to rethink that standard and reset it so that there are no more 40 year olds with terminal prostate cancer.

Tony


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!

Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 11/26/2007 6:53:35 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/26/2007 8:50 PM (GMT -6)
Nice post, vet. My father was diagnosed a little over 10 years ago, had his prostate removed, and has been cancer fee ever since. I credit him with saving my life since I started getting tested a week after he was diagnosed. I always knew in the back of my mind that I would be dealing with this issue, but thought it wouldn't be until my late 60s or 70s. Surprise, surprise. Not only was I diagnosed at an earlier age, but my cancer was more aggressive than his. Thank God I was diligent in getting tested. Yes, it's definitely hereditary. Not only did my father have it but my great-grandfather died from it. I have one child, a daughter, and now that my prostate has been removed I'll never have a son to pass it on to, and that's a good thing.

Best to you, vet.

Jack
Age: 49
Diagnosed: March 25, 2007
PSA: 3.0
Biopsy: Gleason 6. Five of twelve core samples positive with <5% each. No perineural invasion seen.
DaVinci Surgery: May 21, 2007 at Florida Hospital, Orlando, Florida. Surgery took one hour and 45 minutes. According to my surgeon, everything went textbook and the prostate peeled away nicely.
Post-op Pathology Report: Upgraded to Gleason 7 (3+4), negative margins, negative capsular penetration, negative seminal vesicles, lymph nodes left intact, multifocal perinural invasion, 15% of prosate involving cancer in both lobes.
Continence: Out of the pads at five weeks. Still have some very minor stress incontinence at times but it's not an issue. Still Kegel every day and will continue to do so.
Erections: Yes! With the assistance of Cialis.
1st Post-op PSA: <0.1 2nd Post-op PSA: <0.1
Family history: My Father had his prostate removed at age 67 in 1997 and has had a <0.1 PSA for the past 10 years. I was diagnosed at a much earlier age and had a more agressive cancer than my father. Go figure.
 
 
 

Posted 11/26/2007 8:56 PM (GMT -6)
I am so thankful for the many positive posts on this thread, I think that the primary docs are unaware of the number of men in their 30's and 40's who are walking around with PC and are not aware they have it. We need to get the message out that testing needs to start at 30 not 50. Another thing, I had a bad misconception about the scores. I was thinking ( wrong ) that if you were 60 then 4.0 was not a bad score. I meet men almost daily ( I have breakfast with a group of men in their 60's and 70's ) that their doctors are telling them that 4.0 is an acceptable PSA score. I keep telling them to read DR. Patrick Walsh's book. What else can you do? So many are not wanting to learn the truth and are wanting to believe the Doctor about the PSA at 4.0 A lot of the men in this age group are not in to computers either so recommending they come to this site is not a good suggestion. Got any ideas. Keep the faith and a positive attitude, God Bless, Uncle Dan
Age 67
No symptoms, DRE negative, 10 - 06 PSA 5.44, 01 - 07 PSA 6.47
5 - 07 CT and Bone scans negative, 05 - 07 Biopsies, 2 of 6 positive
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 Stage T1c
08 - 14 Dr. Dasari - Baptist Hospital, Nashville da Vinci RAP, five hours surgery
Some right nerve and all left nerve removed,
Hospital discharged 8 - 16
Pathology report Negative margins, Encapsulated, 50% left side
Lymph nodes 2 R & 1 L - Negative, R & L seminal vesicles - Negative
Gleason changed (4+3) 7 closer to 8 than 6
9 - 26 Great PSA 0.000, 9 - 27 Starting on meds for ED
10 15 Dry most of the time, occasional leak (dribble )
10-27 Received pump started use on 10-29 can see resulted, enlargement.
11-22 Viagra, Lavitra no help yet, Pump still not producing usable results either.

Posted 11/27/2007 12:49 AM (GMT -6)

Hi Vet & All

Rick has a 42 year old son from his previous marriage. Rick & his son have not spoke in 15 years but I called his son last Friday to warn him about having his PSA tested. It turned out to be a very nice conversation I had with his son and I opened the door to allow him back into his father's life. I am hopeful that he will contact me for a long over due family reunion. He was very grateful for the call and said he would make an appointment this week for a PSA. I hope he does.

You are a very lucky man to still have your father and a wonderful relationship with him.

Best wishes

Diana


Rick & Diana
6-30-06  PSA 2.54
1-22-07  PSA 4.98
1-26-07  PSA 5.09
Diag: 2-14-07 Gleason 8 Stage T1c PSA 5.09
Bone Scan 3-1-07 Clear
3-6-07 Triple Spinal Fusion (due to old back injury)
Radical retropubic surgery 4-2-07  Post surgery Gleason 9 Stage T3a Positive margins
4-29-07 PSA 0.02
6-9-07   PSA 0.02
7-6-07   PSA 0.03
8-1-07   CT Scan & Chest X-Ray   Clean
 9-26-2007 PSA 0.07
11/1/07 PSA 0.1

Posted 11/27/2007 1:38 AM (GMT -6)
Wow,
You go, Diana.
This is very important to Ricks son. GET TESTED!!!. Mending will soon follow.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!

Posted 11/27/2007 9:24 AM (GMT -6)

Uncledan- Your post is so true! My father's dr advised him that a PSA of above 4 was/is normal for a man his age.  He NEVER referred my dad to a specialist, even when he felt an enlarged prostate.  He kept waiting and retesting.  Thank God for my husband (he is a family practice dr) that he finally nagged my father enough to see a specialist.  My father is the exact patient that you discuss in your last post..doesn't use a computer and believed what his doctor was telling him. 

I always tell my husband that breast cancer is going to be the first cancer cured and that is ONLY because of the women that support the cause and everything that is being done to raise awareness and money for research.  The fundraisers for breast cancer are truly incredible. Women truly have the gift of gab and unfortunately, so many men don't like to discuss pc. My hope is that someday by every pink blender there will be a blue one to raise money for pc. :-)

Unfortunately, the burden is now our task to bear and it is people like the champions on this forum that will raise awareness regarding pc....even if it starts with a blue bracelet.  I tell every man I know to get tested....I figure if you help to save one life it is worth it.

Love and prayers to you all!


Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7 
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
HT to being Nov 07
Radiation soon to follow
 
 

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