Injections and Penis Use Difficulty

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geon
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 103
   Posted 12/2/2007 5:14 PM (GMT -7)   
All,
Been 10 months since DaVinci RP.
I have gone through all three oral and muse penile therapies without much success. ~20% firmness with orals and much stimulation.  Muse was irratic with 40% at best except one night I was about 90% and ready to go except for the fact the little guy lost all of its air when I attempted missionary.  Muse does not behave the same standing and horizontal.  The best lasting success with muse was with the next morning on the stool.  Free hanging seems to have something to do with erectile stimulation. 
 
I switched to the pump (Osborn) and mastered it over three weeks with cialis.  Still no self standing erections after several weeks usage.  A little depressing since my last natural erection was about eight months earlier.
 
Then I got on to trimix twice a week and pump twice a week.  The pump is a pain and the rings and I are not good buddies.  The injections are a blessing and am very close to finding the correct dose.  I have paid my dues by innocent overdose so now I am extremely cautious.  0.07 is about my dose.  Most times a good firm erection for 1-1/2 hours, sometimes less then adequate and once a hard erection that deflated because of a distraction.  The erection hung on at about 20% for nearly 12 hours with a wonderful feeling that it was going to rise again but never did (darn).  My erections have most times been strong enough for penetration especially after stimulation.  It is not upright or even straight out but rather on a downward angle.  It is firm but could be harder. Since being able to have relations with my wife I find that I have great difficulty keeping my penis from slipping out.  I'm thinking maybe I should go to a higher dose to get it up higher but then again when I did overdose (4-1/2 hour erection) I don't believe my penis was up much higher.  Any experience with issue?  Also, I'm thinking my penis length may have shortened keeping me from staying in.  It seems to be the same length but is recessed somewhat.  We have not attempted any different positions as we only have been missionary for 40 years.  Any thoughts?
 
Since these erections feel so great and natural (compared to pump erections), I am considering going to injections every other day instead of twice per week.  Anyone have any experience with this?
 
All gender responses are welcomed.
 
Thank you.
 
Marc
 
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon


Ripandburn
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 125
   Posted 12/3/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I just finished posting to another thread regarding my experiences with Caverject and Bimix. See it here http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=981966 . I had been using Cialis every other day, but it really did not help other than to keep the tissues going. I started to have headaches and really wanted to get away from the oral drugs. Went to the Doc for a PSA and to start injections. He used Caverject. After the experience I will only use it in an emergency.

I have not used the pump, after reading about mixed results and problems in this forum. I can say that the Doc wanted me to only inject twice a week. I am not sure what type of problems you will run into with an injection every other day. My concern would be that you may run out of injection sites after a while, or spots that really won't heal well. I personally would talk with the surgeon before doing that.

I have Viagra and Levitra. The Viagra never did anything for me. I will try the Levitra at some point in between injections to see how that affects me. I have not experienced the Trimix, but after my Bimix experience I probably won't.

I also think that my penis is a little shorter, but haven't had any problem slipping out......at least this last weekend which was my first intercourse in 4 months.

It all gets old for all of us after a while though. I am certainly no one to talk, as it's only been 4 months for me, but I can feel it from all of the posts on this forum.
51 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
PSA after 6 weeks <0.1 - undetectable
PSA after 4 month .07 - undetectable
11 weeks post-op - no more pads


lawink
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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 621
   Posted 12/4/2007 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Marc . . . You could be describing our experience with the slipping out. We too use Trimix and although the erection is reasonable, the angling down you describe is present. Current dosage is .26 units in a 1CC syringe. The Dr. did say the curvature could be scar tissue and offered an oral med "Trentall" to be taken for 6 months. We've opted to avoid this strong medication just based on Bob's other medical issues at this time. Also no guarantee that it will stop the problem.

Anything more than the .26 causes great discomfort, although the dr. said up to .50 was acceptable . . . ."OUCH". We tend to be missionary, more than any other as well and the only thing I have found (wife) is to support the base of the penis with my finger tips while it is inserted. This definitely keeps it where it should be and adds a llittle to the experience at the same time. The constant fear of slippage certainly is distracting to say the least.

I'm being rather graphic here, but trying to help as always. Good luck. . . . We are at 37 years.

;o) Linda & Bob


Bob (61) - Laproscopic Prostate Removal Sept 27, 2006.
2 of 12 malignant biopsy samples - gleason 3 + 3 = 6.
 
Pathology - cancer completely contained, even a second more aggressive, previously undetected cancer)
PSA UNDETECTABLE Nov 2006, Feb, May, Oct2007.  ONE YEAR!!!! WHOOO HOOOO! 

Bob also has two secondary conditions -- Polycythemia (elevated red & white cells & platelets) and . . Myelofibrosis) -- If anyone has experience with or information on these, please email us.


geon
Regular Member


Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 103
   Posted 12/4/2007 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   

Linda,

Thank you for being so open and frank in this discussion.  I too did not want to offend anyone but sometimes thers are no alternatives to description of some problems.

The angling more down then horizontal is more so since surgery.  To try to compensate, I did increase my dose from 0.07cc to 0.08cc thinking the erection would get harder and therefore stand up more.  It did help with both hardness and slightly more horizontal rigidity. Also, insertion was easier and it stayed in without slipping out for about one minute until I climaxed at which time it did slip out because I lost some of the rigidity.  I usually climax early which is another problem which I wish I could correct.  The dosage increase was great and satisfying in many ways but the additional discomfort of aching was definetly bothersome.  This time my erection did not recover in fullness after climax but stayed at about 70% for some time.  This increase in dosage was on the left side of my penis.  I will try this one more time on the right side which tends to not give me as strong a reaction.

My wife has begun holding the base of my penis to maintain penis insertion also and it is very helpful up until I release.  The possible slippage is a constant fear that does not allow one to perform with ease but rather with anxiety which tends to distract as you say.  Perhaps we should entertain a different position which I have given little thought.

An additional issue that mostly affects males is climaxing too soon. I have always been that way but really did not recognize this as an issue until afew years ago when my wife and I climaxed at the same time.  This has happened about three time in 40 years and those three times are still very memorable moments.  I wish I coule regain control to make that happen more often. I am currently taking Zoloft which is an antidepressant that reduces anxiety with a side effect of delaying climax.  In the early stages so far I have not noticed any difference in climax time.  Manual stimulation does not seem to be a problem.  Only during intercourse.

Any additional thought on the above would be appreciated.

Thanks again and if I appear to out of line someone please correct me.  These are issues that you don't have to many folks to talk to about that one can relate with.  The openess is new and refreshing and allows fresh air to come in.  It certainly is a relief to not keep those things inside but rather share them.

Marc

 

 

 

 


64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon

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