Cereal with BHT!!!

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btcountess
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   Posted 2/5/2013 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been eating the Chex cereals, mainly cinnamon, thinking it was so great to have a cereal that was gluten free and they say all natural on the box. Well, going to visit my daughter next week and she was buying things I could eat and when she read the ingredients on the Chex box she saw that they use BHT as a preservative. So disappointed. Any cereals anyone has found that are actually good for us?

BTW, have found Pamela's bread mix and cornbread mix to be wonderful. Guests had the cornbread recently and loved it.

lucysgd
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   Posted 2/5/2013 7:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Are you saying BHT has a gluten component - or are just disappointed that there is a preservative in them?

I seem to have trouble with the Cinnamon Chex myself - trying to decide if it's the milk or the cereal.......

btcountess
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   Posted 2/5/2013 10:29 PM (GMT -7)   
It's the BHT I'm upset about - it's a preservative used in cosmetics and shouldn't be used in cereal!!! Re milk, I use Silk Unsweetened Original Almond milk. Doesn't have any crap in it as many, many non-dairy does.

Recoveryme2day
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   Posted 2/6/2013 2:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh Bummer! Chex was the only non-gluten/wheat cereal on the market that doesn't cost a mint! This diet is killing my checking account and I don't bake/make from scratch and i'm only feeding me cause my 17yr. old is still growing. We don't eat junk food and i can cook I'm just not very good at it so pre-made stuff is Very important to me! I apologize for whinging all over your post so i will try doing something constructive and look into starting an e-mail campaign against General Mills? I only have Honey Nut Cheerios in my house at the moment but i am sure since they went gluten-free we can get them to take out the make-up preservative nono I will get on that and get back here or should I start a new post? Any input from anybody, please! Thank you for bringing this up :-)
Crainiotomy Lg. Meningioma Dec.02, Bi-Polar 2004, SMI 06, Gluten/Wheat/Dairy Intolerance, IBS 06, Migraines w/pseudo-seizures 07, Dev. Septum Sur. Sept.07, 2nd Men./Tumor Gamma Knife Rad. Dec.08, Radical Hysterectomy Sept.09 w/instant Menopause, Fibromyalgia 09, Disability since 09, EBV/CFS 11,Vomiting/Multiple Ulcers, Vertigo 12, Chronic Fatigue Moderator 2013.No meds list I ran out of space.

btcountess
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   Posted 2/6/2013 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
You mean Honey Nut Chex, right? Honey Nut Cherrios have wheat. You're not whinning - I agree, it really sucks that our items are so expensive. I was so happy to have them as a treat and a breakfast option. I wrote them but you should as well. Their answer was that the FDA allows the use of it because old people die anyway!
Here it is: Thank you for contacting General Mills about the use of Butylated Hydroxytoluene (BHT) in our products. BHT is used in trace amounts in some shortenings and oils to prevent oxidation and rancidity. Though its use is minimal, there have been several misunderstandings and concerns about the safety of BHT.

Some people are concerned that BHT might cause cancer. In some animal tests, BHT given with strong carcinogens appears to enhance the carcinogens′ effects. But in other tests, BHT actually inhibited the carcinogens′ effects. BHT, by itself at high levels, has been shown in two studies done by the National Cancer Institute to be without carcinogenic effect. Similar studies from Japan confirm BHT′s safety. Finally, a recent study from Denmark is puzzling to scientists. BHT-treated animals had more tumors, but only after living 50 percent longer than untreated animals. It seems likely that the tumors were a natural expression of old age.

lucysgd
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   Posted 2/7/2013 2:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't like the preservatives, either. Dove Chocolates is now using something called TBHQ in their candy (except for the milk chocolate right now - another new one. There is a lot wrong with our food supply - but that is another long story.

The difference of the cost for gluten free food as opposed to regular food is tax deductible. For example, if a regular loaf of bread is $2.00 and a GF loaf is $4.50, you could use the $2.50 as a deduction. This requires a Celiac diagnosis, I believe. Also if you are forced to travel further in order to buy Gluten Free food, you can deduct for the extra mileage. I don't personally like to keep track of coupons, let alone the price difference/mileage tracking that is required. But when I get shocked by the latest grocery bill, I sometimes rethink it.

swfowkes
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   Posted 5/31/2016 12:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Even if BHT is not on the label, you do not know that there is no BHT in the cereal (or other food product). The phrase "no preservatives added" allows preservatives to be included in the ingredients used to make the food product. So a BHT-containing vegetable oil can be used to make a no-preservatives or no-preservatives-added product.

There is another twist to this dilemma. BHT can be added to the cereal packaging. BHT has a positive vapor pressure at room temperature. This vapor surrounds the food particles and adsorbs on top the surface of the food, thus activating its antioxidant properties. This BHT also does not require a label listing for BHT. I've used this technique for preserving coffee beans, nuts and spices, gluing a small piece of felt with BHT in it to the bottom of canning jar lids. I have also put pieces of BHT-saturated paper in a folded-up coffee filter to accomplish the same end. It keeps the flavors from going "off" (rancid).

Recoveryme2day
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   Posted 6/4/2016 6:46 PM (GMT -7)   
So it causes cancer but makes you live longer? that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. I'm not trying to be a you know what, but I Have Cancer and things like this do not make shopping easier for me, quite the opposite, so I would appreciate a straight answer and there's no such thing as a "safe cancer causing product" period! So either it does or it doesn't. Period!
Craniotomy/Meningioma 12/02,Bi-P. 04,SMI 06, Glu./Wh./La. Int.,IBS 06, Mig. w/ps.-seiz. 07,Dev.Sep.Sur. 9/07, 2nd Men./Tu. Gam. Kn. Rad.12/08, Rad. Hyst. 09/09, w/Meno, Fibro. 09, Disab. 09, EBV/CFS? 11, Vom., D + C w/Vertigo 12, C-diff, spas. col., Chr. Fat. Mod. 13, Lots of Meds they ch. often + herbal meds + alternative when I can afford it.

swfowkes
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   Posted 6/6/2016 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
BHT does not cause cancer. The original studies suggesting that it does were flawed, failing to account for the carcinogenic activity of aflatoxin. But BHT is a known cancer promoter (and cancer anti-promoter), which means that it can make other carcinogens stronger (or weaker), depending on whether BHT induction of liver enzymes creates a higher level of the active carcinogen (or a lower one).

The most likely reason that BHT causes longer lifespan in mammals is that it decreases food consumption. In other words, animals eat less food if it has BHT in it. And they eat the lowest amount of food when the BHT level is highest. Food restriction produces a life-extension benefit, providing that some acutely stressful mechanism doesn't kill the food-restricted animals before they can reach their increased maximum-lifespan potential. In other words, food restriction and its related effect of lowering metabolic rate increases maximum lifespan but decreases animal robustness against stress, trauma, infection, and similar life-and-death challenges. So in a well controlled laboratory, feeble animals are protected from real-life hazard that free-living animals might or would likely face.

Does this help?

Recoveryme2day
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   Posted 6/6/2016 7:57 PM (GMT -7)   
mad skull Yes I'm sure its good for Pocket Book as you must be making a lot of money promoting Cancer Causing Agents on a Healing website and SHAME ON YOU Healing Well for allowing it!
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