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lozzy42
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Posted 1/7/2013 1:58 AM (GMT -6)
Hi everyone

haven't posted on here for a while, as I've been a bit depressed with how I'm feeling and how my GP is dealing (or not dealing) with my hypothyroidism. I could really do with some advice.....I'm on 100mcg of levothyroxine daily, my TSH is .070 ( I believe that is what she said) and although it's this low I'm suffering with a list of "Hypo" symptoms including being constantly cold, I have daily headaches, sinus problems, weight gain, aching joints, bruising, hair loss, bad nails, and the list goes on. All my GP wants to do is keep lowering my thyroxine dose and I have been advised by my Endo not to go lower than 100mcg. I am completely frustrated and have lost total faith in my GP. I have read that a lot of Hypo sufferers benefit from an additional supplement of T3, which my GP has constantly told me is not available in the UK ( I have now found out that it is available, and my local pharmacy stocks it!!! Grrrrrrr) I have also constantly asked for my T3 levels to be checked but every time I have my bloods done, the lab refuse to do the test as they say it's not necessary??? ( more like it's too expensive !!).....So, I am now having to try and sort myself out without the support and help from my GP. I have managed to obtain some T3 from a very reliable source and I am wondering just how much I should start on??? I'm thinking of taking 75mcg of levo and 6mcg of T3 which would be equivalent to 100mcg of levo. If anyone has taken T4 and T3 together, could you please give me some advice on how to start as I don't want to make myself Hyper, but I need to do something as I'm in a living nightmare.

Cheers

Loz
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jujub
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Posted 1/7/2013 7:30 AM (GMT -6)
Really, it's dicey messing with your body hormones on your own, and it would be irresponsible for anyone here to be making recommendations about this. Is there any way you can agitate enough to get a referral back to the endocrinologist for a better evaluation? I know it can be difficult sometimes with the NHS, but do try.

One of the problems is that many other conditions can look and feel like thyroid malfunction, and the wrong treatment could mask a real problem elsewhere and cause major health problems.

Good luck to you with this. It seems we all have healthcare systems that can be difficult to navigate.
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lozzy42
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Posted 1/7/2013 11:18 AM (GMT -6)
Thank you for your advice. As you said, it's really difficult in persuading your GP to do a referral especially with something like hypothyroidism. The last time I went to speak about an alternative medication I was told I was bullying him into giving me a med that he didn't want to prescribe, and that there was a baby outside that he had to see??? When you're up against that sort of reluctance and insensitivity you really feel like not bothering with GP's and just sorting it out yourself. I do appreciate that toying with meds is potentially tricky, but I'm in a situation where my GP doesn't want to know, and I'm suffering daily. I can't change GP's as no one is taking on in my area, so I'm basically stuck with all these problems and know one to help me sort it out....it sucks!!!

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hypoHashimoto
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Posted 1/7/2013 11:48 AM (GMT -6)
Hi,
I just want to agree with Judy that you should not self medicate your self, and without a Free T3 test that show you need the T3 meds it is dangerous, to give you an example, when I read too much about combo of t3+t4 therapy, and when I had FT3 of 3.6 with a range of 3.5-x.x, I asked my doctor to add Cytomel, and even with this borderline FT3, it was not necessary and I went several months with an improper treatment.

If your TSH is 0.07, then why you don't want to lower your dose? maybe you are over medicated ? actually with this TSH, your gland is suppressed, if you go over medicated your symptoms will not switch entirely to be hypER symptoms, you will keep having the old symptoms and might develop new ones that are hypER.

Good luck,
S
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jujub
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Posted 1/7/2013 12:45 PM (GMT -6)
Never be afraid to bully your doctor. If that's the only thing he responds to, that's what you need to do. In fact, I actually told a doctor once "I know you think I'm a *****, but that's the only thing you respond to. Unless you change, don't expect me to." I've found if you're persistent enough, people will sometimes give you what you want just to get you out of their face.

That said, labs are usually a good indicator of what is going on with your thyroid, so you might want to think about other causes. I've found that when I get anxious about my health, my symptoms intensify, so I try to catch myself on that. Could that be an issue with you?
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lozzy42
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Posted 1/8/2013 2:19 AM (GMT -6)
Thanks for all your replies guys, I just wish I had GP's like yourselves. I have really let rip at my doc on many occasions and all they do is prescribe anti depressants ( which go straight in the bin) As for the free T3 test...I've never had one??? They will only do TSH I'm told nothing else is important and you only need the TSH...that's the situation I'm up against. I was on 100mcg of levo for years feeling great and no hypo symptoms what so ever. Literally over night everything changed . Weight gain, constipation, headaches, cold hands and feet, aches and pains etc etc ... why would this happen??? My doc said it's because I turned 44 last month and I should eat 600 calories a day??

Cheers

Loz
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zptduda
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Posted 1/10/2013 10:04 AM (GMT -6)
Sorry about how you are feeling. I have a wonderful doctor who specializes in endocrine disorders. I am currently taking Cytomel 7.5mg to treat the symptoms of Hashimoto's. I felt only slightly better treating the T4 and switched 1 year ago. Hope this helps..
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lozzy42
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Posted 1/15/2013 4:27 PM (GMT -6)

zptduda said...
Sorry about how you are feeling. I have a wonderful doctor who specializes in endocrine disorders. I am currently taking Cytomel 7.5mg to treat the symptoms of Hashimoto's. I felt only slightly better treating the T4 and switched 1 year ago. Hope this helps..


You are very lucky, my GP said Cytomel wasn't available and that T3 isn't important at all...I beg to differ!!! I have managed to get an appointment with a new Endo, hopefully he will be more open minded and understanding. x
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