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Scottishcammy
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   Posted 12/26/2007 4:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Given that we're not supposed to eat fruit/vegetables skins that are hard to digest, I was wondering if it would be worthwhile investing in a juicer? Does anyone else use one? I thought it may be a good way to make such foods easier to digest?
Cheers. :-)
Diagnosed Indeterminate Colitis 25/11/2007
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40mg Prednisolone,
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princesa
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   Posted 12/26/2007 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Some folks do go that route and have found it useful. For me, it seemed to be more trouble and mess than it was worth. I find I do just as well during a flare by sticking to well-cooked, non-fibrous veggies. I peel any fruits or veggies I consume. Blended soups are another option.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 12/26/2007 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
I think juicing is an excellent idea, this can also give the bowels rest from having to digest food and it's a healthy alternative, even healthy people will do juicing as it gives them alot of energy (especially those involved in athletics.

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Jeannie143
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   Posted 12/26/2007 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
My daughter found juicing to be a great way to keep up her energy levels when she was in the middle of a flare. She could juice just about any veggie or fruit and as long as she put an apple in with it, it was pretty drinkable. (well... maybe not spinach tongue ) She also used to eat a lot of baby food, too. The strained foods and veggie/meat combos were nutritious without a lot of residue. Hope this helps you out.
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potty girl
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   Posted 12/26/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I use a juicer when in a flare and also when in remission. even when I feel good I cant do raw fruits are veggies so I juice.
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texasyankee
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   Posted 12/26/2007 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   

any suggestions for recipes/combinations of fruits veggies that won't cause as much gas/bloating?

any suggetions for juicer brands that really can handle the peels?

any guidance appreciated!


potty girl
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   Posted 12/27/2007 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a Jack LaLannes power juicer it spits out the peels and seeds and has a good size opening can put like a whole small apple in it. Its the only one I have ever used but I am sure there are others that work well also. It also comes with a recipe book for mixing different fruits and veggies. I ordered it off line. He also advertises on T.V. I started juiceing because I felt like I didnt get the vitamins I needed, because I had to cook everything before I ate it. who knows.
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UCinGV
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   Posted 12/28/2007 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Ugh. I've had bad memories of juicers ever since I was eight and my dad would juice whatever was in the fridge and give it to us for breakfast. He'd make us things like broccoli-cucumber-carrot juice. No rhyme or reason.
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quincy
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   Posted 12/28/2007 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL...your dad was very inventive...but it does sound gross!!

q
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SwollenColon
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   Posted 12/30/2007 10:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I've got a Champion brand (masticating) juicer that I use regularly. I usually do 5-6 gala apples and 3-4 granny smith apples with a bag of baby carrots and a couple sticks of celery. It's a pulpy juice that I think provides some easy to deal with fiber, plus it tastes very good. I always save the carrot pulp separately so we can make carrot cake with it. The juicer came with a recipe book, but I usually stick with the apple/carrot/celery juice. White grape juice is awesome too, but at the current price of $4/lb it's some really expensive juice. I'll be doing some cherry/blueberry juice in the summer when (hopefully) the prices come down.

MoonShadow
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   Posted 12/31/2007 3:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Scottishcammy said...
Given that we're not supposed to eat fruit/vegetables skins that are hard to digest, I was wondering if it would be worthwhile investing in a juicer? Does anyone else use one? I thought it may be a good way to make such foods easier to digest?
Cheers. :-)

 
 
 

Drinking (organic) vegetable and fruit juices are some of the very best healing tools on this planet. You could also include juicing fresh herbs and wheatgrass too.

 

Pure vegetable juice or pure fruit juice is a wonderful idea for health and well being (maybe not for diabetics though – may need to dilute the juice with water or check with their doctor first) 

 

I understand that fasting on pure juice for three to five days is recommended for a great detox. I have done a one day fast on water and a one day fast on juice. However, one day was hard enough, so I am building up to the longer detox slowly.

 

The most important keys are:

 

1) Having a good quality juicer.

 

Expect to pay $500 - $1200 for a really decent juicer, depending on type and model.

 

Cheaper juicers cost around $50 - $250 but they will decimate the life giving nutrients from the juice.

 

2) Use certified organic produce.

 

If it is not possible to use certified organic, then use the very best produce you can source.

 

I eat organic because it tastes better.

 

Here is a link about the importance of certified organic food:

 

http://www.macrowholefoods.com.au/news.php/72.html

 

 

You may need to copy and paste the link to use it.

 

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MoonShadow.

Australia.

Female 37.

Sick since 1998 – finally diagnosed 2003.

No drugs (last drugs were taken in 2005).

Healing myself thorough diet & natural methods.

Using plant derived MultiGest Enzymes capsules as part of diet.

 

Feeling fantastic!

Post Edited (MoonShadow) : 1/1/2008 5:25:23 PM (GMT-7)


MoonShadow
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   Posted 12/31/2007 10:00 PM (GMT -7)   

I have just realised, I didn’t give you proper information in my previous post. I am looking to buy a new juicer and have been researching brands and prices for the last few months, so the following information may be useful to you too:

Centrifugal juicers are the most common and affordable type. A rotating blade cuts vegetables & fruit and this is then pushed against a strainer at very high speeds. They seem to range in price from $50 - $250 and can be brought at most High Street retail stores.

Non-centrifugal juicers can be either a masticating (chewing) or a cold-press style. This style retains more vitamins, minerals and enzymes in the juice than the centrifugal juicers. They are a more specialised product and tend to cost from $500 upwards.

Most juicers are single gear. Twin gear juicers are top of the range and the most expensive. From my understanding, you only really need twin gear if you are using it in a café in a high capacity setting.

Although the non-centrifugal types are more expensive, they have a number of advantages:

Juice can be stored for 24 – 74 hours depending on the brand of juicer. You can’t store juice from centrifugal juicers, as it spoils within hours.

Some of the brands can also be used for food processing (i.e.) mincing, grinding coffee beans, making sausages, pasta & noodles, seasonings, nut butter, soy milk, baby food and ice cream. The cold-press ones can also juice wheatgrass and herbs.

They are quite to use and normally come with really good warranties of 10 or 20 years. 

 

I can’t decide between the following two non-centrifugal juicers: Oscar Vital Max 900 Living Juicer $499 or the Green Power Greenstar 2000 Twin Gear Juicer $995. Obviously the Oscar Vital Max is a lot cheaper but the Green Power Greenstar is meant to be one of the best in the world and people rave about it.

 

I plan to use the juicer twice a day, everyday, that is why I want one that will last for years.

 

I juicer I currently own is a centrifugal juicers. I paid about $120 for it and it is terrible. It is always over-heating and it is very loud. It seriously struggles when I try to juice hard carrots or delicate things like spinach. And it is a pain-in-the-you-know-where to clean.

 

Anyway I hope my research assists you in some way.


MoonShadow.

Australia.

Female 37.

Sick since 1998 – finally diagnosed 2003.

No drugs (last drugs were taken in 2005).

Healing myself thorough diet & natural methods.

Using plant derived MultiGest Enzymes capsules as part of diet.

 

Feeling fantastic!

Post Edited (MoonShadow) : 1/1/2008 5:27:57 PM (GMT-7)


kelina
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   Posted 1/1/2008 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   
does it matter if you peel or take the seeds out before you juice them?

27 yr old, female lower left moderate to severe UC since 2002

Colazol 3 pills 2x per day, 6 MP 50 mgs per day

Flax Seed Oil 2 per day, VSL#3 4 pills per day, Food enzymes 2 b4 meals when needed

canasa when needed, can't do rowasa!

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MoonShadow
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   Posted 1/2/2008 2:51 AM (GMT -7)   
kelina said...
does it matter if you peel or take the seeds out before you juice them?

 

If the produce is certified organically grown, I will juice the peel and seeds.

 

If the produce is conventionally grown, I will peel and de-seed first.

 

However, it can also depend on the product, as obviously apples are much easier and less time consuming to peel than grapes.

 

Also many nutrients are found in or just below the surface of the skin, so if you peel the product, you will lose a lot of those nutrients.

 

Then again, in conventionally grown produce, pesticides can be at their most concentrated in or just below the surface of the skin.

 

Also there are some items that you would definitely peel, whether organic or not (i.e.) beetroot bulbs.

 

There are hundreds of books available for sale (or check your local library for free hire) on the subject.

 

I always eat the whole Kiwi fruit – but everyone I have ever met, peels it first.

 

So I suppose in the end, it’s an individual choice to what suits you best.

 

 



MoonShadow.

Australia.

Female 37.

Sick since 1998 – finally diagnosed 2003.

No drugs (last drugs were taken in 2005).

Healing myself thorough diet & natural methods.

Using plant derived MultiGest Enzymes capsules as part of diet.

 

Feeling fantastic!


texasyankee
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   Posted 1/2/2008 7:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been using the Greenstar juicer, borrowed from a friend, and while it does a great job of extracting juice from the pulp it is a pain to clean. The book says you can store the juice for 24 hours so if you make enough you can use the juicer every other day which would cut the cleaning time down. I have carrot juice with beet, apple, celery and a speck of ginger every morning.

2008 will definitely bring a shift in how I spend my time......all these home remedies are time consuming to research and carry out. I soooo appreciate the insight of others as to what has worked and the research time you have all put in.
DXed with left sided UC in 1983 at 20 years of age
-Used prednisone for long periods in the early years (1983-1992) which resulted in severe osteoporosis
-remission through two pregnancies 1993/94 and 1996/97 no meds taken other than prenatal vitamins
-flare in 2000 didn't respond to methasalazane supps or enemas tried methatrexate; mostly in remission for 7 years
-July 2007 new flare with additional never before seen symptoms.....hormone related?, not responding to meds
 
 
 


MoonShadow
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   Posted 1/2/2008 3:41 PM (GMT -7)   
texasyankee said...
I have been using the Greenstar juicer, borrowed from a friend, and while it does a great job of extracting juice from the pulp it is a pain to clean.

 

 

 

This is excellent information - thank you.

 

Until yesterday, I have only seen these juicers on-line.

 

I saw the Oscar Vital Max 900 Living Juicer in a shop yesterday and it looks like it could be a pain to clean too.

 

But maybe that’s the sacrifice I will need to make, to get the most nutrients from a machine.


MoonShadow.

Australia.

Female 37.

Sick since 1998 – finally diagnosed 2003.

No drugs (last drugs were taken in 2005).

Healing myself thorough diet & natural methods.

Using plant derived MultiGest Enzymes capsules as part of diet.

 

Feeling fantastic!


mjw82704
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   Posted 1/6/2008 6:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi I take Juice Plus vegetable and fruit supplement pills but of fruits and veggies upsetting my tummy. I just started and they don't upset my stomach I will have to give them a month or two to see if they have a beneficial affect. If not the juicer might be the way to go for me as well. I just don't like the thought of having to clean it.
Left-sided colitis diagnosed at age 28 in 2001
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Hydrocortisone Enema and Rowasa Enema rotating days for the next thirty days
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chili123
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   Posted 1/6/2008 7:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I also bought a juicer and not a very expensive one. I have found that it doesn't seem to squeeze out alot of juice. So, I didn't pay the extra $ up front in the cost of the juicer but I am certainly paying for the extra because it takes a significant amount more of fruit to "juice" to make a serving (especially with veg's). It appears that the extra money upfront will pay off if you really use the juicer.
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BenY
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   Posted 1/6/2008 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I thought this same thing too, and got a centrifugal one. Problem is, it didn't seem to really "work" (i.e. help the symptoms). I went on a big food experimentation thing, and definitely have come to the conclusion that you can only do so much with food alone. When I am on a lot of steriods, for example, it doesn't matter what I eat, its all good. When I am low on the steriods and doing badly, it doesn't matter what I eat, its all bad. Not that some things aren't worse than others when you are flaring, but maybe that's about as far as it goes.

That being said, carrot juice works best in juicers. A lot of green vegatables taste strange. Soft fruits don't work very well, plus you can buy fruit juices (grape, apple, pineapple etc) pretty easily. Tomatos taste good, but don't juice very efficiently. Celery works good. By all means avoid bok choy juice. Anyway, my advice might be, if you want to drink "juice", to buy a thing of Odwella carrot juice (cost less than juicing that many carrots anyway) and mix it with fruit juice. I also like Naked Green juice, but it's pretty expensive.

Ben
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Symptoms started 10/06, diagnosed 4/07.
Currently on 8.75mg Prednisone (w/calcium), trying Sulphasalazine.
 


SwollenColon
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   Posted 1/6/2008 9:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I think you're missing the point about juicing. Yea, you can go to the store and buy juice, but there's not much there......it's flavored water for the most part. A masticating juicer like I use simply chews up whatever you stick in it and extracts the maximum amount of juice. The pulp is almost totally dry. It costs slightly more than buying pre-bottled juice, but you get the full benefit of consuming the raw, unprocessed fruit/vegetable. Centrifugal juicers aren't going to pull all the juice from the fruit, so there's a lot of waste, and they're hard to clean. It takes 2-3 minutes to clean mine and put it away. I got it online for under $200.

princesscolon
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   Posted 1/7/2008 7:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a Hamilton Beach juicer, it's about $50 at Walmart.  I am allergic to carrots and apples, I mostly use it for bananas and mangoes, I put 2-3 bananas and 1-2 mangoes and then mix the extracted juice with soymilk because the juice that comes out is thick.  Yum, it's delicious.  My husband has made carrot and apple juices and they come out good.  It seems like a lot of fruit goes to waste, but I never get any seeds, even those tiny banana seeds are seperated.  I rinse off the machine's pieces right away and throw them in the dishwasher, the only pain is cleaning the metal piece with a scrub brush because it gets seeds stuck in it.  I recommend you get this juicer, that way you don't spend a ton of money if you don't like it, although I think you will.
Diagnosed with Left-sided Ulcerative Colitis 1995 at 15
Tried: Prednisone, Rowasa & Hydrocortisone Enemas, Proctofoam, Sulfasalazine, Asacol, Probiotics, Fish Oil, Canasa, Enotcourt, Colazol, Proctocort, Anamantle, etc...
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