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Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone heard of or seen the site of dr albert snow? I can across His web site yesterday. It states that he has cured all kinds of ailments using his method of natural medicine (he is a naturopath in Boston MA and has been curing ailments Like UC for some 29 years. I'm still not sure about it, but I figure what have I got to loose. The price to get a consultation with him is about $130.00 for an hour. I don't know how much the "natural meds" will cost.  However With this recent flareup of mine, I don't need to explain what we'll try for relief. Please help have you heard of this or something similiar? 

kb5
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   Posted 12/27/2007 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
The only cure for UC is removal of the colon. There may someday be another kind of cure but what Dr. Snow is promising is not realistic. He may have success putting clients into remission but he cannot garuntee a cure or it would be in every medical journal out there. It says on his site that he treats the cause of the problem but they do not know what causes UC or that there even is one casuse and not many. The protocols he is suggesting look a lot like what many here have tried. Some have had success and some have not.

I have tried many different natural routes including some in his protocol with no success. I am not saying don't try it just be careful of people trying to prey on those of us desperate for help. If money isn't a problem for you go talk to the man. But be wary of anyone claiming they have a cure. That should not be said lightly.

Good luck. if you see him let us know how it goes.
Kelly, 29

Left sided UC diagnosed 1/98 age 19, Pan colitis diagnosed 1/07
Currently on 4x3 Asacol, Rowasa every other night, 15 mg pred. until immuran kicks in...
75mg Imuran starting 8/23/07---bumped to 100mg 10/8/07--bumped to 125 11/14/07
Prontonix once daily for acid reflux, zofran twice daily for nausea


therearemiracles
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   Posted 12/27/2007 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I go to a natural path in Novi Michigan who's been working with Standard Supplements for 28 years. What supplement brand does he use? I paid $60 for the first visit, however long, and each visit is $30. The supplements can be costly, but I've been off meds for 2 1/2 months now. I'm not perfect, but I'm getting better. I know I have to stay away from gluten & yeast and sugar. nono I say go for it! I'm loving my new attitude! I look better, brighter, different, healthy, I work out and have energy! Life is really good.
I had the Rocephin shot and 2 weeks of Omnicef, this helped with my bloating and digestion. That was 4/15/07
Had Cipro and Predison for 10 & 5 days, 7/3/07
Colonoscopy & Endoscopy 7/27, Left sided colitis and near cecum (mild)
Had a shot of steriods for my ear inflammation 8/31
Stopped Colozal 10/1/07 was on it for 7 weeks, side effects
On Standard Process supplements, trying a new protocal from a
natural path as of 9/10/07
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Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks KB5 for your concern! It's truly appreciated. I guess with the options at present. AMP websites. This thing or that. It all seems to cost around the same thing. And if ........IF....the testimonials are true, well why not see if it can work for me. But I will go into this very curious.    And I will keep you posted. 
 
 
P.S  sorry it's  $170.00 for an hour, I was wrong.

Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 9:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Therearemiracles:
                           Thanks for your replay as well. Does your dr (Natural path) tell you the goal is to "cure" the desease, or is it something that he says will continually need to be managed.

therearemiracles
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   Posted 12/27/2007 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   

My Dr. says curable. I just called to get information for you and Dr. Snow only does "phone consults" for $175!! I would be skeptical b/c you can't meet with him. I did Dr. Dahlman's protocol and did not see an improvement. I even had my blood drawn for him and shipped, I spent tons of money. I like who I'm working with now.

However, Dr. Snow protocol supplements I totally beleive in. I'm not taking fish oil of L-glutamin or colostrum. My doc and I are working on cleaning my gall bladder and killing bacteria and restoring mucus membranes in the gut. All of Dr. Snows supplements I  have heard of. I did try L-Glutimin for a month, but no improvement. I do believe you have to commit 90days and more. Now I'm doing the committment part for a year.

 


I had the Rocephin shot and 2 weeks of Omnicef, this helped with my bloating and digestion. That was 4/15/07
Had Cipro and Predison for 10 & 5 days, 7/3/07
Colonoscopy & Endoscopy 7/27, Left sided colitis and near cecum (mild)
Had a shot of steriods for my ear inflammation 8/31
Stopped Colozal 10/1/07 was on it for 7 weeks, side effects
On Standard Process supplements, trying a new protocal from a
natural path as of 9/10/07
!
 
 
 


Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 10:57 AM (GMT -7)   
I too believe that it is curable. Medicines (that I am currently taking  colazal, corto ene) seem to mask the problem and I'm sure that was discussed thoroughly under another forum topic.  I think the body with natural meds can heal itself. Anyway I too was  concerned about over the phone consultation. But after talking to his receptionist. I found that some have decided to meet w\him first at his office, and then have a consultation. She asked what I wanted to do. I just booked the consultation.
 
By the way I have done some studying of natural remedies. I do believe there is something to it. The difference is that natural is more long term road. than quick fix. 

jujub
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   Posted 12/27/2007 11:00 AM (GMT -7)   
My take: "natural" medicines have been around since before homo sapiens. Some of them work, and some have been refined into "pharmaceutical" medications. But if they cured everything the practitioners claim, "modern" medicine would have never developed because it wouldn't have been needed.

That said, we never know what's going to make us feel better with this DD. So I'm in favor of trying whatever you think might work, as long as you're not letting someone bleed you for tens of thousands of dollars. Believing in a treatment greatly increases the chances it will work for you.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Intolerant to Asacol and rectal mesalamine preparations.
On Prednisone then Entocort 2001-2006 with only short periods off. 
Current meds are Colazal, Azathioprine and Remicade.
In remission since April, 2006. Remicade has been my wonder drug.
 


NuffinButtTrouble
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   Posted 12/27/2007 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a problem when someone says things like "there's no cure for UC" or "The only cure for UC is removal of the colon". I believe most, if not all human conditions can be cured and I'm sure years ago someone said measles couldn't be cured, etc. Most of us know that traditional doctors treat the condition and not the cause, whereas holistic doctors try to treat the cause...there's much that doctors don't know about the human body and one reason is because they are all trained/taught in the same way.

I have strong doubts about Dr. Snow's program, especially after checking the supplments he's using and the fact that he claims to achieve full recovery after just 90 days. Remember, everyone is different...I am curious though, to hear from someone who has used him before, but I can't find anything on the web.
 
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Everlasting Remission, I wouldn't be too concerned about the consultation fee because several holistic doctors charge a lot for phone consultations. If you decide to use him, follow his program to the T and keep the rest of us abreast of your improvements if any...I also believe that natural remedies are the only way to go.
 
Judilyn...for most prescription medicines, there exists a herbal alternative with little or no side effects; but prescription medicines are very profitable for big business.

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Meds: Remicade, Primal Defense Ultra, Multi-vitamins (also iron, B12, Magnesium and Zinc), Flaxseed/Natures Bounty Fish Oil
Swanson Ultra Caprylic Acid (natural anti-fungal) 600mg x2 daily
Carrot & Garlic supplements (natural anti-fungal) x2 daily
Currently taking herbal meds in the search to regain full health.

Post Edited (NuffinButtTrouble) : 12/27/2007 11:28:42 AM (GMT-7)


damo123
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   Posted 12/27/2007 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
When a GI says UC is not curable he means that no generic cure exists. There are people walking around who have had their UC disappear and never come back - some visit this site now and then. Are they in life long remission or are their cured. Do you really think such people worry about such a spurious play on words? remission? cure?....both come under the term of good health as far as I'm concerned.

If medical science can't tell me what caused the disease then I take exception to them deeming that no cure exists. UC has been cured in specific cases. A general cure doesn't exist no but neither does a general cause.

Natural remedies have existed thousands of years before medical science became what it is today. By the same argument if medcial science was cured everything then people wouldn't be moved to try natural cures.
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...but more importantly a Healthy Diet, low levels of Stress and a steadfast belief that "I am a healthy person".
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


expecting226
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   Posted 12/27/2007 11:42 AM (GMT -7)   
damo123 said... "UC has been cured in specific cases."

Damo - Can you back that up? Do you have proof? Can you direct me to a study or article? The only cure for UC that I know of is a complete colostomy.
Current Medications:
- Asacol (4 pills, 3x per day)
- Rowasa (1 enema daily, as needed)
- Folic Acid (1 mg, 1x per day)
- Calcium (600 mg, 2x per day)
- Prenatal Vitamin (1x per day)
- Iron (2x per day)


Old Hat
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   Posted 12/27/2007 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Removal of the colon is not a cure; it just replaces one set of problems with another. In the case of patients who get ostomies, they have to buy baggies & glue for the rest of their lives to catch the waste. Patients in constant pain from pancolitis or faced with malignancy find this a lesser evil, understandably. However, anyone concerned with UC & its treatment should accept that it probably arises from multiple causes, which likely impact seriously on the individual due to a genetic predisposition. That's what makes it especially hard to treat: one size does not fit all! But responsible doctors do try to help us! Not to deny the existence of crass profiteering in some sectors of the medical profession & pharmaceuticals, but people do live longer lives in our era because of scientific breakthroughs made by well-educated & dedicated researchers. If you can't appreciate the scientific method, read about life in the Dark Ages. Plus, be skeptical of anyone who wants to take gobs of your money! / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC; currently on 3 Colazal daily for maintenance of remission)

texasyankee
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   Posted 12/27/2007 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   

I have had the condition for 24 years......it has been MIA for the last 8 or thereabout....I have taken no meds, no supplements, ate whatever I wanted.  July of this year brought a flare that has yet to be managed and I feel like I have to learn everything all over again.......what can I eat, what are the supplements that help, is juicing better than eating food? 

I felt like the condition was a non-issue in my life....not cured, not remission, just not a factor...it is a HUGE factor now and I need help getting quickly up to speed on treatments so I can manage my life....two kids, two dogs and a caseload of patients

Appreciate all the feedback on this site

 


DXed with left sided UC in 1983 at 20 years of age
-Used prednisone for long periods in the early years (1983-1992) which resulted in severe osteoporosis
-remission through two pregnancies 1993/94 and 1996/97 no meds taken other than prenatal vitamins
-flare in 2000 didn't respond to methasalazane supps or enemas tried methatrexate; mostly in remission for 7 years
-July 2007 new flare with additional never before seen symptoms.....hormone related?, not responding to meds
 
 
 


princesa
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   Posted 12/27/2007 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I checked out his Web site. He makes alot of blanket statements and promises, but from what I could see he never goes into details about how he treats UC or any of the other maladies he claims he can "fix." There is truth to what he says about broad spectrum antibiotics being part of the problem (in that they kill both good and bad gut flora), but other than that, he doesn't elaborate on any other causative factors or methods of treatment. There's also truth to his statements about allopathic medicine not offering a "cure" that gets at the cause of the illness but rather seeking only to control or suppress symptoms. However, the tone of his site and the unprofessional copywriting and design make me skeptical.

Anyone who's read my posts knows I'm a big proponent of alternative treatment options. It's my opinion that they can be combined to manage UC, bringing symptoms under control, bringing the body back into a state of balance and health and are essential to achieving long-term remission. But these methods require patience, education, determination and lifestyle changes many are unwilling to make. Once a state of health is achieved (doctors call it "remission"), you have to stick with it. Folks come on here asking "Will I ever be normal again?" If "normal" means self-medicating, taking antibiotics at the drop of a hat, sitting on the couch eating greasy junk food, going out with friends to binge drink, then the answer's probably no. But can you become healthier and in better shape than you were before you got sick? I believe you can. Would I call it a "cure?" Probably not, because when people say cure, they mean they want a miraculous quick fix that will allow them to return to an unhealthy lifestyle. It doesn't work that way.

If you live in the northeast and are interested in seeing a well-known and respected alternative doctor for treatment of UC, I'd recommend Dr. Ronald Hoffman. His site offers plenty of information and details about how he tests and treats inflammatory bowel disease. In his FAQ section, someone asks if they should come see him when they're not willing to make any real changes. He tells them honestly if they can't follow the treatment protocols and dietary recommendations, they're going to be wasting their time. Contrast that honest response with Dr. Snow's claims to cure everything under the sun. Which sounds more believable?


http://www.drhoffman.com/

Click on The Center>Health conditions and concerns> and scroll down to IBD for several articles detailing his treatment of UC.


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


kim123
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   Posted 12/27/2007 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with those here who claim you shouldn't have to shell out money to find out if something works for you. I am one of those people who got well again just from changing my diet and taking natural antifungals. Ironically, my doctors told me not to waste my time for there was no known "cause" of UC, or cure for that matter. For me, I know my 8 years of UC symptoms were caused from a fungal condition, probably from antibiotic use or birth control use over my lifetime, or even living in a moldy house. My UC symptoms coincidently started appearing after moving into a house that had previous water damage. Maybe that was the trigger...dunno. But, when I stopped eating all fungus feeding foods (grains, sugar, yeast) my symptoms were dramatically reduced within 2 weeks, and all disappeared eventually.  And, it didn't cost me a thing to try the antifungal experiment. To tell you the truth, I really didn't believe it would help me when I started. I was VERY skeptical. I say save your money, and try those changes first. Fungus is capable of doing much damage in your body and can penetrate cells, change the DNA of your cells, and penetrate/poke holes through your colon, which I assume could also mean the mucous barrier. I gleaned my info from a gentleman who makes no claims to be better than a doctor, and actually wants you to works closely with your doctor. He has done much fungus research and worked with many other doctors to help their patients get well. You can read more about fungus and how it affects our health at www.knowthecause.com . Check out the FAQ link for diet advice. Other links there speak more directly about fungus that is interesting. If you want, you can email me and I'll send you more specific information on the diet and natural antifungals one can take. Save yourself the money. All you need to do is commit yourself to 2 weeks to experiment with the antifungal program. You have to be very disciplined and not veer from it one little bit. If it is a fungal condition you have, you should know in as little as 2 weeks. It is worth it to you to at least give it a try? Only you can answer that :)
Best to all this holiday season,
Kim

Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I've read a lot of interesting comments here. I definitely don't see a colectomy as a cure. Old Hat is correct in saying that it replaces one set of problems with another.  However there is a new procedure where the "bag" is on the inside of your body, and it actually empties when you have a bowel movement.  But still !!!! Before I get to that point, (And I hope I or anyone else will never have to get to that point.) I think I'll try other alternatives for a "cure". 
 
  And for me when I speak of cure, Im talking in the true form. Not remission. Maybe permanent remission.....O.K.  But  Someone could be in remission for some time like Texasyankee.  8 yrs in remission. No meds, no supplements, ate whatever. He probably thought he was cured, or in Permanent remission. Now he's at square one again, looking this up, dr visits,so on and on. I've been there, I'm actually there now.  
 
   But as for my goal to lick this thing I did set the appointment with Dr snow for tommorow. I will keep you all posted. And if you find something better please let me know.
 
     Princesa,  you make a good point about being willing to change your lifestyle. I know that saying I'm going to eat healthy is different from doing it.  Here's what I don't understand. I was in remission for 2 yrs. I ate whatever for the most part. Went on a health/fitness contest amongst friends. Protein shakes, 6 small meals.. soon after this my flare ups started.  Was it the Protein shakes? Why a flare up now?   This I will talk to The doc about. My point though I'm willing to change my eating habits/ if I have specific things to look out for that causes my symtoms
 
 

Everlasting Remission
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   Posted 12/27/2007 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks Kim123 this site does look interesting

expecting226
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   Posted 12/27/2007 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
You are referring to the j-pouch procedure. I have two friends who have had that done, and they have lived completely medication-free, problem-free lives ever since. Both wish they had done it sooner.
Current Medications:
- Asacol (4 pills, 3x per day)
- Rowasa (1 enema daily, as needed)
- Folic Acid (1 mg, 1x per day)
- Calcium (600 mg, 2x per day)
- Prenatal Vitamin (1x per day)
- Iron (2x per day)


princesa
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   Posted 12/27/2007 4:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Everlasting Remission said...
 
     Princesa,  you make a good point about being willing to change your lifestyle. I know that saying I'm going to eat healthy is different from doing it.  Here's what I don't understand. I was in remission for 2 yrs. I ate whatever for the most part. Went on a health/fitness contest amongst friends. Protein shakes, 6 small meals.. soon after this my flare ups started.  Was it the Protein shakes? Why a flare up now?   This I will talk to The doc about. My point though I'm willing to change my eating habits/ if I have specific things to look out for that causes my symtoms
 
 
It's hard to say without knowing more details... and even then it would be an educated guess because - as everyone here seems to agree - we have different causative factors and usually it's a combination of things. Like Kim, my crisis hit when I was living in a damp, mouldy house that had extensive water damage in the crawlspace. I feel certain this contributed to my diagnosis, but I'd already struggled with IBS off and on for years. I also had a flu-like illness and was given a powerful antibiotic known to cause gut distress before my diagnosis, so again... it's a convergence of things.
 
Protein shakes can be a problem... particularly if you were using whey protein concentrate instead of isolate. Your shakes may also have had some artificial sweeteners or who knows what in them that disagreed with you.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


Old Hat
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   Posted 12/27/2007 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Princesa's 2nd paragraph of comments in her earlier post about treatment methods requiring "patience ... lifestyle changes", etc. are absolutely excellent, in my opinion, and very justified on this site. A UCer cannot expect to achieve & stay in remission by popping otc meds for other random ailments, for example. Just look in the thread "Red bumps" and you will see a moderator advising the UCer to take a Benadryl & see if that helps. Wrong approach to the problem! Swallowing a non-prescription pill is quick, but its ingredients may cause a setback or flare-up; it should not be casually done to "test" anything. / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

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   Posted 12/27/2007 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Old Hat...if you have a problem w/ anything I have posted to other members w/ my "advice" then I ask that you send an alert to Peter (our administrator). You may do that by hitting the alert button in the upper right hand corner of the post box. Never in a million years do I think I am right 100% of the time but all I am doing is trying to help.

Secondly please refer to this forum rule as I do not think it is appropriate for you to make remarks about posts I have left to other members:

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   Posted 12/27/2007 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
tjf-- I am sorry if you viewed my comments as a personal attack. My point was intended to support Princesa's comments in paragraph 2 of her earlier post, comments which, I think, everyone dealing with a chronic illness should take to heart. Self-medicating with otc pills, another person's prescription, using illegal drugs, etc. can be very harmful, and I think it's great that Princesa brings up this behavior because our society is bombarded with ads for otc pills in all the media. Decades back an elderly relative of mine died from a ruptured duodenal ulcer, which was likely exacerbated by an otc arthritis drug that was widely advertised for years as effective & safe. There are valid reasons to be concerned about this issue. And, if I didn't respect you moderators as volunteers, I would not bother to participate on this Website. / Old Hat

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   Posted 11/29/2017 12:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the reply. After diagnosis he tried homeopathy for 6 mth which not worked at all. Then he tried for ayurveda and yoga as he do not want to try allopathy. Ayurvedic medicine worked well for a year. Complete remission and almost normal. Then after a year disease flared now. Again he tried ayurveda but only some relief. But since last two days again he is having flare. Now going for repeat colononcopy . Regarding Dr Snow he has his own website. He is on Facebook also. I mailed him, he replied he can give long term remission or cure. He is asking 300 dollar for consultation fees and medicine extra . I have no problem to pay that much but he should not play with our emotion , should not cheat us.

(edited out URL, looks kinda spammy to me. Two posts by a new user both referencing doctor snow with the same text)

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   Posted 11/29/2017 6:27 AM (GMT -7)   
So, this Doctor does "phone" consults? Do you ever get to meet him?
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   Posted 11/29/2017 9:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Should not cheat you, but certainly will - it is the american way. From the search I did, it looked like this man is a known charlatan.
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