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Mitzo
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   Posted 1/1/2008 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Why so much gas all the time? Does inflammation produce it, and does mesalamine make it worse?
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


jano437
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   Posted 1/1/2008 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I have a lot of gas also. I just started to flare yesterday, and I will be curious to hear others responces to your question. Are you flaring at the moment?

Janice
Diagnosed July 2005 with Pancolitis
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Mitzo
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   Posted 1/1/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes Jano, I am flaring for a couple of months although getting a little better slowly. I am taking 8 pentasa 500mg each per day plus mesalamine enemas. I have a feeling the inflammation creates gas and the mesalamine adds to it. Plus the meds make me tired and dizzy, I think.
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


pb4
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   Posted 1/1/2008 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Gas in the gastrointestinal tract has only two sources. It is either swallowed air or it is produced by bacteria that normally inhabit the intestines, primarily the colon. Swallowed air is rarely the cause of excessive flatulence. The usual source is the production of excessive gas by intestinal bacteria. The bacteria produce the gas (hydrogen and/or methane) when they digest foods, primarily sugars and polysaccharides (e.g., starch, cellulose), that have not been digested during passage through the small intestine. Sugars that are commonly poorly digested (maldigested) and malabsorbed are lactose, sorbitol, and fructose. Lactose is the sugar in milk. The absence of the enzyme lactase in the lining of the intestines, which is a genetic trait, causes the maldigestion. Lactase is important because it breaks apart the lactose so that it can be absorbed. Sorbitol is a commonly used sweetener in low calorie foods. Fructose is a commonly used sweetener in all types of candies and drinks.

Starches are another common source of intestinal gas. Starches are polysaccharides that are produced by plants and are composed of long chains of sugars. Common sources of different types of starch include wheat, oats, potatoes, corn, and rice. Rice is the most easily digested starch and little undigested rice starch reaches the colon and the colonic bacteria. Accordingly, the consumption of rice produces little gas. In contrast, the starches in wheat, oats, potatoes, and, to a lesser extent, corn, all reach the colon and the bacteria in substantial amounts. These starches, therefore, result in the production of appreciable amounts of gas.

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quincy
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   Posted 1/1/2008 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Early symptoms of flaring of the rectum will be excessive gas. It's a classic sign that many of us don't connect to UC.

The 5ASA meds can exacerbate and increase gas. It gives extra back-up during my morning bms when I'm flaring. Once the flare has quiesced, I don't seem to have that gas except during the night on occasion after insertion of the enemas. One thing I do get is hot during the night when I use them.

Dizziness can definitely be a side effect of salicylates....as could be low blood sugar.

Mitzo...are you taking any probiotics?

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/1/2008 5:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes I take a probiotic and also psyllium powder. I also avoid dairy except for the probiotic and yougurt, and exist mostly on rice as a carb. The gas issue is always a problem when I flare, and, to be royally indiscreet and explicit, when you are mucousy, you can't just let rip with the gas - it carries the mucous out with it. What a life.
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


pb4
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   Posted 1/1/2008 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   
How long have you been taking psyllium for? Your system may still be adjusting to it...when I first stared taking prodiem stool bulker it took 3 months before my system finally adjusted, then I had many benefits from it so of course I'm planning on taking it everyday for the rest of my life as my GI suggested.

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kelina
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   Posted 1/1/2008 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
i too get the mucousy gas which is a real pain, my doc tells me i have the access gas from what im eating so i use bio-zyme its a food enzyme that i take 15 mins before i eat and it totally reduces the gas. with all the holiday food ive been eating...i'm starting to feel a flare so back to the enzymes i go!

27 yr old, female lower left moderate to severe UC since 2002

Colazol 3 pills 2x per day, 6 MP 75 mgs per day

Flax Seed Oil 2 per day, VSL#3 4 pills per day, Food enzymes 2 b4 meals when needed

canasa when needed, can't do rowasa!

Next Remicade Treatment August 8th

 


muda
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   Posted 1/1/2008 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I did not have gas when my whole colon was inflamed in 2001. Now I am almost in remission (2-3 solid stools, no blood, no urgency, etc), I have gas. My stomach growls all day. I think my gas is related to mucous. Once the mucous is out, I get no gas for a few hours.   

Mitzo
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   Posted 1/1/2008 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree, the mucous and the gas seem to be related somehow - when there is one, the other is literally not far behind. And to answer the question about psyllium, I have been taking it in one form or another for probably 18 years.
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


quincy
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   Posted 1/1/2008 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Mitzo...yeah, those wet farts are sneaky!
Do you find the capsules of psyllium better than the powder?

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/2/2008 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
You said it, Quincy, and those breakings of wind can ruin your day if they occur in the wrong settings. I take the psyllium powder as powder, from a bulk shop and mix it with water twice a day. Works great, when I am not in a flare.
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


tjf
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   Posted 1/2/2008 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Ugh. Those are the worst! I wear panty liners when I am flaring to help.
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kazygirl
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:16 AM (GMT -6)   
yeah, for about a year i wouldnt dare fart unless i was over a toilet.  no way jose!
 
now that im in remission i have lots of gas... and everytime, i think to myself...is it gonna be a G & L ..
(Gamble & Lose) or will it be dry?
 
it really is a dilemma when your out and about.
 
but i dont know why im so gassy.. im in remission and only thing i take now is mesalazine.
steph - 31 - female - diagnosed UC in 2000
started as proctitis, went to pancolitis..then went back to left side only to splenic flexure.
last 3 weeks have been fabulous with no UC symptoms at all = remission (yey!) 
prednisone = finally finished!!!  woohoo!
1000mg mesalazine 2x day - 1/2 1/4 oxycodone every 6 12 18 hours (weaning)
calicim, inner health plus (probiotic), fentalyn patch for pain and to wean off oxycodone
VSL#3 didnt work - Aloe Elite didnt work - Budesonide didnt work
prednisone finally made me puff out on my last week of taking it ... bugger!
 
 


AshNH
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Last month during a flare, I was extremely gassy. I think it is related to inflammation, mucous, blood and the meds. But I mean it was extremely horrible. Weird thing was that it would start in the evening..around 5pm..I would have to goto bathroom five-ten times before going to sleep and it was horrible, horrible sounds of wet farts. Not much during the day..or at night.(I did have to wake up couple of times during the night though) Luckily, I seemed to have passed that phase now. and with less inflammation(less blood), I seem to have normal farts again.
Ash 39 NH, vegetarian
Diagnosed with UC July 06 (I think 6/6/6) during 10 day hospitalization
Current meds: Asacol 12, Imuran 150mg
Centrum Silver, Primadophilus Reuteri, DHA-Omega 3, L-glutamine


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/3/2008 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
It is the same with me, bigtime gas at night and again in the morning when flaring. When in remission, no big deal, but the experience of the mucous/blood farts haunts you. Ain't life grand?!
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


Mamas Boys
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   Posted 1/3/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm in remission - and have been for a while (knock wood) - and I have big time gas.  I feel like it collects in me throughout the day, and by days end my stomach is distended and I start getting that left sided pain.  As soon as I lay down in bed with a heating pad - it all starts letting loose.  My poor hubby - all through the night the gas releases and by morning I am fine again.  Just in time to start the cycle all over again.  I've found that if it really gets bad - phazyme helps a little - at least with the bloating gassy feeling.  Gas-X is another OTC med for this - but I found it did little for me - the phazyme is a little stronger.  Also - on the days that I eat too many fruits and vegies (I try to limit myself to no more than one of each a day as more than that causes me severe consequences) it is definitely worse.  And if I forget to eat - and my stomache stays empty for too long - then it also causes the gas.  Don't have much to offer as to why it happens - just can commiserate.  And you know how misery loves miserable company!! :)
KTM


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/3/2008 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Could it be a food sensitivity, or the meds??
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


Mamas Boys
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   Posted 1/3/2008 10:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Anything's possible.  I've never gotten tested.  Have done my own testing on which foods seem to cause more gas - my main culprits are fruits and vegies - any.  That's why I try to limit them.  That and the fact that they usually send me running to the bathroom more than usual.  My meds make me nauseated.  Who knows?  Probiotics do help though - it was much worse before I started the Culturelle.  I'm going to the doc next week, I'm going to ask him if there's anything else I can do, cuz by the time I go to bed at night I'm really uncomfortable.  And if I have to go anywhere at night my clothes are uncomfortably tight due to the bloating.

KTM


pottytalk
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   Posted 1/3/2008 11:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Have any of you tried yoga. I know it sounds crazy but it seems to keep my bowels moving so there is not to much build up.
Diagnosed 1996
Lialda 4 a day, Cansa 1,000 mg suppository at bedtime
Fish oil concentrate, Pro biotic 4 after each meal
Multi vitamin, Vitamin D 1,000 IU
In flair since October
Fifth flair since diagnoses
All flairs triggered by antibiotics or artificial sweaters (aspartame)


Mamas Boys
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   Posted 1/4/2008 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Not yoga - but I do exercise all the time.  It definitely gets things going for me - but still does not help with the gas buildup over the course of the day.  I think it's related to my IBS.

KTM


Sara14
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   Posted 1/4/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I take a yoga class. It's low impact enough that I can do it even if I'm not feeling the best, but it still gives you pretty good exercise and is relaxing.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - as needed for flares
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; flaxseed


ledaebel
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   Posted 1/4/2008 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for the smiles and laughs you have given me as I read all your posts. A sense of humor goes a long way in tolerating the the potentially humiliating wet gas episodes. It is soothing to know you are not alone in this struggle with UC.

I'm sure we all have our stories, i sure have mine.
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Prescriptions: Lialda (on a study) asacol, hycosamine, protonix, synthroid, zyrtec, avalide, nasocort, Miacalcin spray and Trazadone for sleep.
OTCs:  Usana multivitamins and multiminerals, Usana Procosa, Usana Mega Antioxidants, Omega 3, Vit. E,  Healthy trinity probiotics, Calcium Citrate


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/5/2008 9:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Like you, Ledaebel, I am happy to have found this place where it is possible to discuss the hidden horrors and embarrassments of having UC. It actually helps put your own struggle in perspective and to know that even mucousy gas is something people cope with all over the world.
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.


Mitzo
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   Posted 1/5/2008 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
One more tip I have learned from way back - to release a load of gas while mucous is a fear, if you can, lie on your left side and pull your right leg up toward your chest, and hold a finger close to your anus. Release the gas and keep the finger there to create a kind of "back-pressure" which will keep the mucous inside while the gas escapes.
Know what else has worked for me over the years? Using a hand-held shower head and really hot water on the area will stimulate residual feces to expel from the rectum and further up. Put it on spray first, direct it toward your backside with your hand and while you are on your knees with your back to the shower head, push out while the water is hitting you, and then use massage to push hot water inside, and everything will come out, crap, gas, mucous - it is like a mini-enema. Then, thoroughly wash your self with soap and you will have no urgency for hours. Most important is to then clean the shower head and the tub with a good cleanser like Vim or Tilex!!
How is that for disgusting, but effective?!
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics.

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