The Maker's Diet by Jordan Rubin

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Chelo75
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   Posted 1/2/2008 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone tried this diet for their UC or Crohns Disease.  I bought the primal Defense and the Digestive Enzymes, but I haven't really used them.  I am stuck in between using conventional medicines or Holistic medicine.  I don't know if I can use these medicines while on Prednisone and Lialda.  I haven't had any flare ups, since being on Prednisone and Lialda. 
 
Any suggestions????
 
Diagnosed in Oct07
Male 32
 

Chelo75
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   Posted 1/2/2008 4:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Also I go back to the Doctor on Thursday and he wants to get me away from prednisone, but put me on azathioprine
instead.  I don't know if I want to go that route.
32 Year Old Male
Diagnosed Oct 2007
Ulcerative Colitis
4 Tablets of Lialda
4 Tablets of Prednisone
 
 


relativelyquantum
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   Posted 1/2/2008 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't see any problem with taking them. I am currently taking Primal Defense and I've tried digestive enzymes in the past.
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th and still atempting to work in the midst of it Time off work since 10/17. 
 
Finally seeing some improvement; likely was complicated with a digestional yeast overgrowth.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), probiotics, Oriental Medical Tea & Prescribed Diet, Fish Oil, Folic Acid


hekela
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   Posted 1/2/2008 6:51 PM (GMT -7)   
hi!
i used primal defense for a long time, i maybe went thru 3 large bottles or so.
am now using the enzymedica "probio" and it is working a lot better for me.

i don't stick to his diet, but have cut out all processed foods and feel much better than before. one of the main things i cut out was snack items like protein bars, granola bars, etc.

all you can do is try and see if you feel better!!
good luck.
28, happily married, stay at home mom to 2 year old son
UC (probably pancolitis, but no c-scope yet), diagnosed June 2006, started having major symptoms sometime in January 2006, about 3 months after childbirth. 2nd flare (minor) may 2007 after taking caprylic acid for 2 weeks.
-tried SCD for 4 weeks with no improvement...
-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
-Asacol, probiotics, ground psyllium husk, fish oil, CalMag

may you live all the days of your life.


quincy
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chelo75..welcome to the forum!

Where in the colon is your UC...throughout or limited?

Has the doctor never put you on any rectal meds such as Rowasa?

What exactly are the symptoms you're having at this time and what were they before you were diagnosed? Has there been any improvement since on the Lialda and pred?

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Chelo75
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   Posted 1/3/2008 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not sure if it is limited or throughout.  He gave me some type of foam enema.  I haven't used it, because I feel pretty good right now.  I am just scared once I come off of the pred, what will happen.  Last time I was on it for two weeks and once I was off, my intestined got inflamed and I had to go to the hospital for 3 days.  I didn't know what was wrong, but I went to the restroom about 20 times in the morning with just blood.  The pain was awful, so I finally just checked myself in. 
 
Everything is back to normal now.  I am trying to avoid processed foods, dairy and alcohol.  I was also trying to avoid red meat, but my new doctor said I didn't need to.  I had some rotel and champagne, and I felt bad the next day.  I had alot of mucus, but no blood.  Now it is back to normal again. 
32 Year Old Male
Diagnosed Oct 2007
Ulcerative Colitis
4 Tablets of Lialda
4 Tablets of Prednisone
 
 


princesa
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   Posted 1/3/2008 11:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Chelo75 said...
Has anyone tried this diet for their UC or Crohns Disease.  I bought the primal Defense and the Digestive Enzymes, but I haven't really used them.  I am stuck in between using conventional medicines or Holistic medicine.  I don't know if I can use these medicines while on Prednisone and Lialda.  
Primal Defense and digestive enzymes aren't medicines and will not interfere with prescription medications. Primal Defense is a probiotic that includes soil based organisms. It tried using it. At first it seemed to help, then I got rapidly worse. Now, I stick to Natren's probiotics which have a proven track record of effectiveness and safety.
 
In general, most natural approaches - probiotics, digestive enzymes, omega-3 supplementation, aloe - are all safe enough to use in conjunction with prescription meds, although it's always a good idea to tell your doc what you're taking.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


laurar
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I had the same experience as Princesa with Primal Defense, I initially got better and then got much, much worse. In fact, after being in a flare for a few months I finally stopped taking the Primal Defense and almost immediately started improving. Scary. I now take a probiotic supplement by the brand "Ultimate Flora" and have had great success with it. I definitely agree that dietary changes can help UC sufferers immensely. I follow a combination of the "Specific Carbohydrate Diet" and the "Candida Diet." Both have helped me alot.
Diagnosed Ulcerative Pancolitis
25mg Imuran

Probiotics
Fish Oil
Vitamin C
Slippery Elm
TURMERIC!!!


Chelo75
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   Posted 1/3/2008 1:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all yalls help.
32 Year Old Male
Diagnosed Oct 2007
Ulcerative Colitis
4 Tablets of Lialda
4 Tablets of Prednisone
 
 


UC in TN
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   Posted 1/5/2008 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   

I tried this diet when I was in one of my first BAD flares and it made me really sick.  I even tried following the strict hygiene regimen, yuck!  AND very expensive.  If you are not flaring, it would probably be OK to try the diet, it is very healthy.  As for the probiotics, I use Culturelle and have done very well on it, I have not tried the Primal Defense ones, although I thought about buying the kids' version for my daughter.

Good luck & Good Health!


Diagnosed with UC in Sept. 2004 (pancolitis)

Currently in a mild to moderate flare on 100mgs Immuran, hydrocortisone enemas as necessary, and had 1st Remicade 6/5/2007

Also take Culturelle probiotic, biotin, Omega-3 supplement, psyllium husk, and multi-vitamin

 


TheLori
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   Posted 1/5/2008 3:46 PM (GMT -7)   
When i was in the hospital I saw a show about this...then i looked at the book, to complicated for me!
Lori
38/F
UC diagnosed 1991
Asacal, colazel, zoloft,levoxyl, colocort enemas


mjw82704
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   Posted 1/6/2008 6:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I know what you mean Chleo75. I feel stuck between the homeopathic and prescription world as well. I find that when I am taking my prescription meds and not feeling well I tend to continue to take my prescriptions and add in the homeopathic stuff but I can never tell if they work and boy they are so expensive and I am not a patient person, sooo......anyway just chiming in. Trial and error I guess. I have found out recently that Aloe does help my tummy feel better I can't explain it it just seems to calm things down. I buy Aloe by the gallons now at Wal-Mart and I have at least one big glass a day. I also take Primal Defense. I see no difference either way with the Primal Defense so after finishing this bottle I doubt I'll buy more. I find that my Asocal and enemas are very helpful for now and hopefully forever (thinking positive). Good luck to you.



Melissa
Left-sided colitis diagnosed at age 28 in 2001
Asacol 4 pills 3 times per day
Hydrocortisone Enema and Rowasa Enema rotating days for the next thirty days
Prenatal vitamins


Hobo
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   Posted 1/6/2008 7:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I read the book, tried some products (very expensive) and didn't really see any results.

I was up late one night and Jordan Rubin had an infommercial on TV. It was pushing his products and a new life plan. He talked about curing many illnesses and how he was cured but he never mentioned what illness he had. His book is all about Chrons.

Anyways, the FTC didn't care for what he was promising and he had to pay big fines:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/03/gardenoflife.shtm
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