Posted 1/13/2008 1:31 PM (GMT -6)
Red_34 said...
Yes, something needs to be done about our insurance woes for sure - but where would one even start! It has gone on for so long that now it would be a HUGE-MASSIVE undertaking.
All three of the leading democratic candidates have laid out pretty detailed plans for changing our healthcare system. Yes, it will be a big undertaking, but it's definitely possible and is one of the "big issues" for this election, which is great.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - daily
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D); fish oil

Posted 1/13/2008 2:12 PM (GMT -6)
The judicial system operate without sympathy and bias. Those are instructions judges give to juries in every trial I've participated in. But of course, jurors are only human, and they certainly can be subjected to being swayed by sympathy, biases, and any number of influences exerted upon them by their own prejudices and backgrounds, not to mention skilled lawyers.

Perhaps you are correct that the facts of the case are such that the hospital did nothing wrong and the mom did everything wrong and the jury decided nonetheless to award that wrongdoing with an excessive award. I will tell you that an inappropriate jury verdicts will always be adjusted by the trial judge, from which, of course, either side can appeal.

In some cases, I'm not so sure that we shouldn't have professional jurors, frankly, since some matters, particularly involving very complex medical issues, engineering issues, accounting and contractual issues, can be way, way, way over the heads of jurors that are merely citizens like you and me. Why should we have to muck around after they spent days, weeks or months hearing a complex case, only to come back with a misunderstood jury verdict and have the judge end up changing that verdict. Overall, the jury system works; but nothing is perfect.

Sporadic proctitis since about 1985. Mother had J-pouch surgery 1983.
DX'd with clostridium difficile in 2000. Pred, two courses of Flagyl, then Vancomycin finally got rid of it. 2001 colonoscopy dx'd left-sided UC. . Treated with prednisone, Rowasa, Asacol. Asacol not working, switched to Imuran. Three small flares since in 2002, 2005, and 2007, brought under control with steroid and Rowasa enemas. Lap Chole performed October 26, 2007, after gall bladder attack in June, '07.
Daily meds: 100 mg Azathioprine and 225 mg Effexor XR (for chronic, longstanding depression), many vitamins and Primadophilus Reuteri

Posted 1/13/2008 4:12 PM (GMT -6)
I haven't been insured since I turned 18. A good 6 years now. Love this country!
Posted 1/13/2008 7:03 PM (GMT -6)

When I was first diagnosed with UC the doctor who diagnosed me spent a good portion of our talk on health insurance.  Can you believe that?  Even more so than my disease.  He told me that if I was thinking about switching jobs to reconsider because most insurance companies will not accept pre-existing conditions. 

"Sicko" really  opened my eyes to a lot of things.  Especially now.

Asacol 4 pills 3x's daily
Imuran 125mg.
Prednisone 15mg.
Calcium with Vit. D Tablets

Posted 1/13/2008 7:07 PM (GMT -6)
Blaming high health care costs in the U.S. on malpractice suits is like saying greenhouse gases result from chewing bubble gum! It's simplistic baloney formulated by greedy right-wingers who do not want to pay their fair share of personal income or corporate taxes to fund public financing of social services, including health care insurance. Just last year there was a terrible case in Maryland where a 10-yr-old boy whose family was on welfare died from complications due to infected teeth! His mother had to take 3 different buses to get him & his younger brother to one of the few available dentists who would agree to treat poor patients, which was a hardship due to her own physical problems. Most of us Americans are dependent on our job-connected insurance coverage help in meeting medical costs. Dental care is usually excluded completely from coverage. There is tremendous variation in what type of care the job-connected medical insurance covers. The coverage can change every couple of years even when only one insurer is involved-- because the insurance companies keep trying to cut costs so as to keep their profit margins up. People have to change doctors against their will because the doctors decide to drop affiliation with some or even ALL insurance plans!!! Our highest govt officials, the President, Vice Prez, & members of Congress & Judiciary, on the other hand, have complete medical coverage-- at OUR taxpayer expense!!!! John Kerry stressed this point repeatedly when he ran for President in 2004. You might well say that the national system our taxes maintain = taxation without representation, just what led to the Boston Tea Party! We also need an educational system that teaches accurate health information from early childhood on up-- so that citizens can learn to take better care of themselves thru adequate nutrition & regular exercise, thereby preventing many costly chronic illnesses. And yes, Americans generally come up short on paid vacation time-- especially in comparison to Western Europeans. Vive la France!-- where unions usually fight like tigers to hold on to traditional benefits that improve members' quality-of-life. I dearly love my country, but it definitely merits strong criticism on the issue of quality health care at affordable prices for all citizens. Michael Moore's beef is that the U.S. should finance adequate health care instead of putting so much money into military expenses/actions that harm more people, such as wars in the Middle East. / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

Post Edited (Old Hat) : 1/13/2008 6:20:05 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/13/2008 8:39 PM (GMT -6)
Haha...yeah, I's actually really not funny.
So in my experience, I've been extremely lucky to A) be covered by my parent's insurance until last year, and B) be a vet student with insurance thru the school. Downside to B)--they only cover up to $3000 in prescriptions/year, and I take a pill (prograf) that cost me over $800/month! Now I'm paying for it out of pocket which sucks! I looked into pretty much every other option (including Indigent Health progams since I'm funded mostly by student loans), and was told by all of them that I'd be rejected for a pre-existing condition (my UC). Luckily, I found out that by getting the prograf thru my home state (Ohio), instead of California, I'm now 'only' paying $400/month for my Prograf. And I still have to pay for all the other meds I'm on (for UC and otherwise)...though my $3000/year just restarted, thank goodness!

But yes, it's ridiculous here, and watching Sicko only made me depressed...thank god veterinarians don't have HMO's.

23 yrs old
Diagnosed with UC: March 2004 with probable IBS component

Currently taking:
Asacol 4pills 3x/day
Prograf 5mg/day
(Prograf is my miracle drug! It doesn't seem to be well known, but it's fantastic!)

Previously Tried:
Prednisone (works, but such awful side effects!), 6-MP (gave me acute pancreatitis), Entocort, Cipro (antibiotic), Bentyl, Canasa suppositories, a couple different enemas

Posted 1/13/2008 10:47 PM (GMT -6)
while moore again and again offers up the fact that so many in this country have no health insurance, the movie is really more about the people who DO have health insurance...............or at least think they do. until insurance companies are taken out of the equation, it will never be fixed. there are plenty of other products for insurance companies to fleece money from their customers, without handing over our lives. i was lucky once in my life, i'm not real anxious now to entrust it to a suit with a yacht payment.

Posted 1/14/2008 8:48 AM (GMT -6)
If you've got a good job, and if that job offers insurance, and if you don't lose your job, and IF you were insured when you got UC and you had no lapses in insurance since then, you'll get covered for your UC in America.

I almost didn't get covered when I got my job because they said UC was a pre-existing condition. I had to prove to them that I had insurance without interruption before getting their coverage.

US healthcare is great. US health insurance is awful.
12 Asacol
100 mg Imuran

Posted 1/14/2008 9:27 AM (GMT -6)
I guess the question comes down to much in taxes are you willing to pay for universal health coverage?


Remicade - will have my 20th infusion on February 21.
Imuran - 100 mgs....taken before bedtime
Vitamin B-12/Biotin, Probiotics

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Posted 1/14/2008 10:18 AM (GMT -6)
Participation of doctors in health insurance plans is another major question. They like to set their own fees/hours, etc. / Old Hat
Posted 1/14/2008 10:34 AM (GMT -6)
Yes, exactly Old Hat. I happen to belong to an HMO and my GI said he moved from being a private practice specialist to this organization because he doesn't have to worry about staffing, payments/insurance companies, and all the good stuff that comes with having a private practice. He can now just do his job and he's a great doctor. I think the medical insurance I have is closest to universal health care than anything else I've had. I agree that our healthcare system isn't the best, but do remember that nothing is for free. I too worry about getting sick again; I don't have anyone to lean on for insurance as I'm not married so what would happen? I think we all have the same fears, there's just a lot of work to be done and the American people have to be accomodating to a tax hike.


Remicade - will have my 20th infusion on February 21.
Imuran - 100 mgs....taken before bedtime
Vitamin B-12/Biotin, Probiotics

"Life is short -- make fun of it"
Co-Moderator for the UC Forum

Posted 1/14/2008 11:22 AM (GMT -6)
Who says it would be more expensive. Your current insurance fees would be replaced with higher taxes but overall it would be less expensive.  According to the world health Organization at:
in US dollars the per capita total expenditure on health is $6092.2 for the US (not everyone is covered), $3037.6 for Canada and $2899.7 for the UK. In Canada and the UK everyone is covered. I wouldn’t give up our Canadian health care system for a US style system.

Diagnosed in 2000 at age 43 with UC extending half way across transverse colon.
Allergic reaction to Asacol, Pentasa and Dipentum - can’t take any more 5ASAs.
Prednisone - worked well for 1 month, then side effects became unbearable.
6-MP - blood tests showed not metabolizing properly.
Corticosteroid enema, Flagyl, Ciprofloxin, VSL#3, Adacolumn Apheresis – no effect
Methotrexate with Remicade - 7 infusions with no improvement
Folic Acid and B12 injections.
Currently in Abatacept trial - waiting for remision

Posted 1/14/2008 11:29 AM (GMT -6)
I'd rather pay higher taxes and have total healthcare and not worry about what's around the corner. I too figure it all evens out in the end, but most people scream when taxes are raised; understandbly too....because we all know it could be put to better use, no argument there! ***Sigh*** It's definitely a mess.


Remicade - will have my 20th infusion on February 21.
Imuran - 100 mgs....taken before bedtime
Vitamin B-12/Biotin, Probiotics

"Life is short -- make fun of it"
Co-Moderator for the UC Forum

Posted 1/14/2008 11:35 AM (GMT -6)
Speaking as a lawyer who used to defend physicians and hospitals against malpractice suits before I moved over to the transactional side... and speaking as someone who has worked her entire life - even during flares - to ensure that I maintain my group health insurance and income... I think I am going to keep my thoughts to myself on this debate.
Current Medications:
- Asacol (4 pills, 3x per day)
- Rowasa (1 enema daily, as needed)
- Folic Acid (1 mg, 1x per day)
- Calcium (600 mg, 2x per day)
- Prenatal Vitamin (1x per day)
- Iron (2x per day)

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