Smoking and still in remission for 16 days and counting

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JM
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   Posted 1/17/2008 12:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Just an update. Since starting back to smoking after 3 years, all of my symptoms were gone after the 2nd day. Sixteen days later and I feel great. I was also in the 11% that have arthritis in the hands, neck, shoulders, back and knees. That has also subsided. Filmed over runny eyes have cleared up and skin problems also. I had 4 glasses of whole milk today and no problems. Sunday I had Mongolian Beef with 2 containers of hot peppers and no problems. I should clarify the eating. I would only occasionally have problems with milk and that was because it was too fresh. I let it age to nearly the "sell by date" before drinking it. I don't recommend anyone to smoke, but it is as if nothing is wrong anymore. I stopped my medication while still having symptoms so I would know if the smoking would really help. I currently on take 1 claritin and my vitamins when I remember. No other medication is needed.

blessteve
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   Posted 1/17/2008 12:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Go smokey go! Lung cancer or colon cancer dealer's choice.


Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day.
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotic
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.
 


quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2008 2:10 AM (GMT -6)   
or both
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


JM
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   Posted 1/17/2008 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
blessteve said...
Go smokey go! Lung cancer or colon cancer dealer's choice.

Yep, but thank goodness lung cancer is not in my bloodlines. I am a firm believer that individuals are pre-disposed by their genetical makeup to different diseases and something in the environment triggers the system in most cases. I realize that mutations either by radiation or other environmental stimuli can also trigger a response. For me I do not plan to take medicines all my life. It is easier to remember to smoke than it is to take pills.

pb4
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   Posted 1/17/2008 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
So true JM, my dad never smoked a day in his life, walked alot, worked up until he died at the age of 78 of CANCER and he never smoked, was basically a bachelor most of his life so it's not like he lived with a smoker either. My parents were never married and only lived together for a short time but I saw him everyday, my mom wasn't a smoker either and she has UC since her mid 60's...I got sick with my crohns in my early 20's before my mom got sick with her UC.
 
It's quality of life, not quantity...personally I'd rather live a short healthy life than a long sickly one, so you stick with what works because there's no telling what'll kill ya or when.  Not to mention, researchers are well aware of the inflammatory relief in the colon caused by the carbon monoxide in cigarette smoking and are apparently working on a med based on this without the harmful effects of smoking a cig.

:)


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


chrisg
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   Posted 1/17/2008 10:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Every time i stop smoking i get ill. I am now however trying smoking patches as a long term attempt at getting nicotine without the risks associated with smoking.

gdfairy
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   Posted 1/17/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I stopped smoking 3 1/2 years ago and within two weeks developed my first UC symptoms (or I always had it and the cigarettes were treating it).  I'm at the end of my rope now since I've tried practically everything but the big guns and can't get into remission for more than a month at a time--I'm seriously considering going back to smoking.  How many cigarettes do you need to treat this thing?  I'd hate to have to go back to my previous 3/4 a pack a day.  I just figure with all the side effects from humira or remicade and the dangerous risks, I don't know which is worse, that or smoking, especially since there's no guarantee those drugs will work for very long like the others haven't.
Left sided UC 3 years
Current Meds: Lialda 3 in the Morning
Rowasa when needed or Canasa
Multi Vitamin/Mineral
Fish oil
Biotin


pb4
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   Posted 1/17/2008 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
I found smoking as little as 3 smokes a day helped with my crohns-colitis, it probably varies for each person but start with a small amount and see how it goes for a few days before increasing cigs/day.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


SDM
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   Posted 1/17/2008 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
JM, I'm glad you're feeling well. That, to me, is the most important goal. :)
Sandra, age 34


Diagnosed December 2006 with UC (proctitis)

Asacol (800mg x 2)

Salofalk suppositories as needed

Multivitamin

Vitamins E, C, B complex, calcium & magnesium

Omega 3/6 supplements (500mg x 2)

Probiotics


jars05
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   Posted 1/17/2008 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah I've wanted so badly to smoke and get rid of the symptoms and drugs, but I just can't fit it into my lifestyle. I've thought about it seriously twice now.
Age: 30
Location: Missouri
Diagnosed with UC in 1997.
Medications: 100 mg Azathioprine a day, 20 mg Prednisone a day
Supplements: 2 Omega 3s, b-6, calcium, and multivitamin
No. of colonoscopies: I lost count at 6...LOL!
Last scope: 10/9/05-everything looked ok.
 
 


blessteve
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   Posted 1/17/2008 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   

Yep,

  I also believe genetics play a role in Cancer.  Jimmy Carter (x pres)and his family are proof af that. Look him up.

But also bad diet, and habits can not be ignored.  I want the odds in my favor so the ones I can control I do.

Healthy eating, drink kifer from raw milk,  exercise etc.

JM said...
blessteve said...
Go smokey go! Lung cancer or colon cancer dealer's choice.

Yep, but thank goodness lung cancer is not in my bloodlines. I am a firm believer that individuals are pre-disposed by their genetical makeup to different diseases and something in the environment triggers the system in most cases. I realize that mutations either by radiation or other environmental stimuli can also trigger a response. For me I do not plan to take medicines all my life. It is easier to remember to smoke than it is to take pills.

Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day.
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotic
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.
 


JM
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   Posted 1/17/2008 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
gdfairy said...
I stopped smoking 3 1/2 years ago and within two weeks developed my first UC symptoms (or I always had it and the cigarettes were treating it). I'm at the end of my rope now since I've tried practically everything but the big guns and can't get into remission for more than a month at a time--I'm seriously considering going back to smoking. How many cigarettes do you need to treat this thing? I'd hate to have to go back to my previous 3/4 a pack a day. I just figure with all the side effects from humira or remicade and the dangerous risks, I don't know which is worse, that or smoking, especially since there's no guarantee those drugs will work for very long like the others haven't.


After the 4th cig my cramping was gone, by the next day all bleeding had stopped, but I did make two trips to the restroom. A noticeable drop (going 6+ prior) By the 3rd day all symptoms were gone. A half pack per day at that time, but now I am back to my 1 pack a day as it has been during my previous smoking. I do not feel guilty at all. If someone says something, I just tell them I am taking my medication. You ought to see their expressions. I was quit 3 years minus 8 days. I have quit for a 1 year and one time for 10 years. At 61, I know I will leave this world by some illness or accident, so what the heck. I figure at best not more than 19 years plus or minus a couple. That is when most of my relatives have died. Life is too good to worry about medications. One thing about smoking... I don't forget to light up.

quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2008 11:19 PM (GMT -6)   
At 61, throw caution to the wind! Hopefully, you're respectful to those who don't want it in their air space...

We all justify and risk something, and it never fails to be something someone else views as baaaad.

q
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


JM
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   Posted 1/18/2008 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
At 61, throw caution to the wind! Hopefully, you're respectful to those who don't want it in their air space...

We all justify and risk something, and it never fails to be something someone else views as baaaad.

q


I only smoke at my stove where I turn on the exhaust fan. I can't stand a house that smells of stale tobacco smoke. I do not smoke inside my car or anyone else's. I try to get downwind when I am outside with non-smokers. So I guess I am respectful.

quincy
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   Posted 1/18/2008 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
sounds as though you are....hope you feel better soon.

q


*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


JM
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   Posted 1/18/2008 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
sounds as though you are....hope you feel better soon.

q


If I felt any better I would have to take something for it, Colazal comes to mind that might make me feel less well. If I didn't know how old I am, then I would say I feel like I did when I was 40. I have been blessed with a wonderful life and health to go with it. This UC was just a minor setback.

jan2003
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   Posted 1/18/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
As if there aren't enough good reasons not to smoke, they've found another one:
 
 
How Smoking May Damage Your Eyesight
"If you are a smoker not only is your risk of developing age-related macular degeneration (AMD) greater, but also the risk of existing AMD progressing faster is also higher if you smoke....
 
 Smoking leads to higher AMD risk through several pathways - smoking reduces antioxidant levels, it lowers blood flow around the eye, and it may also affect the coloration (pigments) in the retina."
 
 
Pretty scary stuff! I quit 30 years ago, and I still have dreams that I've taken it up again - and I'm hating myself for it - then wake up glad it's only a dream!
 
Jan

smitharoo
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   Posted 1/18/2008 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow! As an ex-smoker, this is SO tempting. The only problem is that I know my addictive personality. When I quit - 16 years ago - I was smoking over 2 packs per day. My fear is that I would not one of those people that could limit myself to just 3 cigarettes per day...3 would turn to 5, 5 to 10, etc. Interestingly enough, I didn't have UC symptoms when I smoked. Since reading all the research that's been done on nicotine and UC, I've been thinking about how wonderful it would be to be rid of all the UC problems and meds...but, why did it have to be smoking!!! Why couldn't it have been chocolate candy, or ice cream, or strawberries, or....etc.

I hope for those of you that have chosen to return to smoking that it continues to have a positive effect - I'll look forward to hearing you.
Ulcerative Pancolitis diagnosed in 2000
Colazal (6-9 daily)
Off and On Prednisone
Rowasa When Needed
Most Recent Flare: May, 2007
Probiotics - Reuteri
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 1/18/2008 12:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I've actually heard about the smoking potentially being bad for your eyes yrs ago...it's another possible risk from smoking...thankfully after smoking for as long as I have, 27 yrs )with the exception of quitting a few times here and there) my right eye is still 20/20 and my left eye is still 20/30, the way it's always been...thank goodness being 40 now and a smoker for almost 3 decades has not affected my eyes.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


Sara14
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   Posted 1/18/2008 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Smoking doesn't work for all of us (it doesn't work for me, at least), so I wouldn't go back to it if you've already quit, smitharoo.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - daily
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D); fish oil


JM
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   Posted 1/18/2008 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
smitharoo said...
Wow! As an ex-smoker, this is SO tempting. The only problem is that I know my addictive personality. When I quit - 16 years ago - I was smoking over 2 packs per day. My fear is that I would not one of those people that could limit myself to just 3 cigarettes per day...3 would turn to 5, 5 to 10, etc. Interestingly enough, I didn't have UC symptoms when I smoked. Since reading all the


I was always about a 1 pack per day smoker and that is what I limit myself to. I believe the Lord put everything here for a purpose and for me smoking to clear this up at least in my case just might be the purpose.

JM
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   Posted 1/18/2008 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   
pb4 said...
I've actually heard about the smoking potentially being bad for your eyes yrs ago...it's another possible risk from smoking...thankfully after smoking for as long as I have, 27 yrs )with the exception of quitting a few times here and there) my right eye is still 20/20 and my left eye is still 20/30, the way it's always been...thank goodness being 40 now and a smoker for almost 3 decades has not affected my eyes.

:)


Actually UC for about 11% of the folks that have it; it affects the eyes. I know mine were red and itchy all the time. That has also cleared up. I am just bouncing around with joy for all the things it has helped me with. I also had developed arthritis in several places and that has even cleared up. The tobacco companies could make a mint if they could isolate the ingredient that clears this up. I can eat anything, move around better and not trot to the restroom all day. It has worked for me, but I would not recommend anyone else doing it. I dread to tell my doctor since I told him about the research I had done. He also knew it but still recommended not smoking. I guess he can tell me I told you so, if something else develops.

BTC
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   Posted 1/18/2008 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Any studies re using a nicotine patch?

jayce
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   Posted 1/18/2008 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
jm, how old were you when you got uc? were you alrady a smoker? what does your dr say doesn't he think it's an important finding if it really worked? i would thhink there needs to be more investigation. after all many people don't smoke get lung cancer and many people with uc can get colon cancer or drug induced cancers. i find it interesting. certainly if it worked with just a couple of cigarettes a day
Mom to 19 year old daughter diagnosed 11/07.
asacol 2 3x daily-discontinued
colazal 3 3x daily/switched to 4 4x daily
proctofoam 3x daily/1-2xdaily
mesalamine enema 1x daily
canasa suppostiories 3x daily /switched to court supp 1-2x daily
culturelle probiotic 1 daily/switched to danon activiea?
chewable vitamin
hydrocortisone enema at bed time


blessteve
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   Posted 1/18/2008 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
If I was 61 and smoking put me in remission you can bet your bum
I would be puffing away. I am an X smoker but it never gave me any relief.
Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day.
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotic
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.
 

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