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kazygirl
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   Posted 2/9/2008 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
hello all!
 
been awhile since i posted.. i guess when your feeling better and can actually go out and do stuff, you forget about the misery.
 
just wanted to say in addition to a post back in december = i am still in remission!! woo hoo.
 
i went to landmark forum (www.landmarkeducation.com) in december (4th,5th,6th & 8th) and havent had a symptom at all since the night of the 6th of december.
i was in the seminar on friday sat and sunday wondering if i would have to go back to hospital cause i was so bad.  the toilet trips were a minimum of 40 minutes and it looked like freddy krueger had a go in the toilet bowl.  massive amounts of blood and pain.
 
but on sunday night during the forum we did this exercise and i havent had a single symptom since.  its very hard to explain about this course. something you have to go thru to "get it".  my business coaches tried to get me to go for a year. and i finally went. glad i did.  it was a choice exercise and it fixed me ("i" fixed me).  i "want" to say "cure" but who knows. i just have this feeling inside that i will never get it again.  lets hope im right!
 
a whole year on meds couldnt fix me, been to the hospital and i thought i would never get rid of it.  i cant believe i got rid of it overnight.
seriously! the next day (monday) i only went to the toilet once and it was fully formed normal bm.  i couldnt believe it. and to this day 2 months later it has been the same.  no pain, no blood, no diarrhea, no nothing.  not a single symptom.
 
i eat anything and everything. i drink and go out and nothing affects me.  except now im gaining weight sad
 
i dont know if anyone will get the same outcome from this as everyone gets something different out of the forum. 250 people were changed in some way -100% success rate. it was unbelievable.
 
something to check out!
 
anyhoo, just wanted to share in case it works for any of you!
but i hope all of you get better quick!
good luck!
steph - 31 - female - diagnosed UC in 2000
it was all over the place in my colon... but not anymore!
last month and a half has been fabulous with no UC symptoms at all (after a year long painfully horrible flare) 
weaned off everything now i can't sleep  =(
but i love remission woohoo!
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 2/10/2008 2:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Steph...happy to hear your revelational experience has you feeling well.

So, bottom-line....your thinking process fixed you? You were on lots of meds, that could have been a contributing factor mixed with your new perspective?

By "a choice exercise"....do you mean the whole experience or one event?

I hope you continue to feel well....Please keep us posted!
quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


kazygirl
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   Posted 2/10/2008 5:59 PM (GMT -6)   
hi and thanks! im pretty stoked!
i was worried what responses i would get as this is a kinda unconventional..

the choice demo was just one tiny part on sunday night. other people got fixed from other parts of the 3 days and an evening. this was the part that affected me the most.

but the choice demonstration was basically along the lines of "i've got it, nothing i can do about it, there is no cure, this is life, why not make it my choice?"
so "i choose ulcerative colitis BECAUSE I CHOOSE ulcerative colitis"
i dont know how it happened, i got the goose bumps and cried a little (dont tell anyone lol) and i said it outloud.

when your sick for a year you will try anything to get better. i tried medicine and alternative therapies. homeapathy, naturopathy, crystals, positive thinking, affirmations.. you name, i tried it. nothing worked for a year.
this did for some reason.
i guess when you stop resisting something it goes away.
resistance = persistance.
when you resist something and talk about it all the time and ***** about it etc... it persists and stays where it is.
i dont know.
i could be talking out my bum, but hey, it worked for me and ive seen it work for others.

the gentleman doing the demonstration on stage with the forum leader was almost completely blind. he could only see 3 feet in front of him and that was blurry anyway. he came to the forum in the beginning with a blind persons walking stick etc..
well after the choice demonstration he did, he came back on the tuesday evening without the stick and was leading his blind sister on his arm. he didnt fully regain his vision, but it got better. that is amazing.
another lady had 6 months to live and had hands that clenched up and wouldn't unclench. a few weeks after the forum she went to doctor and they couldnt find her disease anywhere in her body. thats nuts!!!!
i didnt believe it. but it worked for me.
i went to this thing for business. my business coaches told me to go. they triedto get me to go for over a year. and i just put it off.
i didnt expect to fix myself, but that is what i got.
a lot of skeptics were there and they got something out of it as well. the grumpiest unsmiling guy there was beaming on tuesday night.
everyone get something different.

anyhoo, thats the story... i am absolutely amazed and just wanted to share with all of you in case it can help.
its not business, its not affirmations, its not self help, its not motivation.. its none of that. its something else that is hard to explain.
they basically teach you about how your reality is based on your perceptions and interpretations of things that happen.
anyhoo, check out their website. it has lots of info.
they are all over the world as well.

steph
steph - 31 - female - diagnosed UC in 2000
it was all over the place in my colon... but not anymore!
last month and a half has been fabulous with no UC symptoms at all (after a year long painfully horrible flare) 
weaned off everything now i can't sleep  =(
but i love remission woohoo!
 
 


mbx5
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   Posted 2/10/2008 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   

I have to admit that I am intrigued.  I can see how mind over matter can help.  Please know many of us are desperate.  I have had UC for 14 years now and its getting worse.  I am at wits end and would try anything...I have seen so many posts in other sites by people who claim they can cure UC....and its just a money making scheme.. 

So, I have to ask - are you affiliated with that group in any way?  Can you explain the exercises in more detail?  What seminar in particular did you attend?  I am interested in learning more but I dont want to be dealing with another snake oil scheme...hope you understand.

 

 



33 yr old male. UC for 13 years. 40mg pred, 12mg Asacol, Fish oil pills, Garden of Life probiotics. Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland.


Rio in Maryland
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   Posted 2/10/2008 7:51 PM (GMT -6)   

Kazygirl,

It's great to see that something's worked for you.  I'd actually looked into the Landmark Forum a while back and was put off by the cost then (before being diagnosed with UC); but $500 is nothing compared to getting your health back.  I know a few people who have attended the forum and they have good things to say about it as a self-improvement course.  All the best!


Rio, 31 yr old male - diagnosed with UC in 07/2006.
 
Alternative therapies for several months (SCD, ayurvedic treatment, VSL#3): didn't work and became anaemic. Canasa, 2 daily: remission for a month then flared-up.
07/07-11/07: 4800mg Asacol (6 x 400mg, twice a day) & Aloe Elite.
Completed first (6 week) tapered course of Pred in 10/07, flaring up since coming off it.
11/07: Switched from Asacol to 12 x 750mg Colazal (3 weeks on it and symptoms got worse)
12/07: Asacol 4800 mg, Started Azathioprene 175mg, Prednisone 60mg - taper.


mbx5
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   Posted 2/10/2008 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Did some web research on Landmark....
 
Here are some reads:
 
 
 
 
 
(great article w/ some harsh language but funny)
 
 
 
I am going to do more research...but to me it is looked at as a scam, cult, ripoff, and bs...   Snake oil has come up a few times in some of those articles, which is what I assumed anyway.
 
UC - 1, actual cure - 0.
 
 
 
 
33 yr old male. UC for 13 years. 40mg pred, 12mg Asacol, Fish oil pills, Garden of Life probiotics. Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland.


blessteve
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   Posted 2/10/2008 10:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope you have a very long remission, but I do not think it is related to landmark in anyway.
My UC has a 20 year history of changing directions. It is the nature of the beast. Probably
the meds kicked in. Landmark could be set up to take advatage of the desperate,
mentall ill and weak. Congrates on your remission.
Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day. X6 1/15/08
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08 PRObiotics
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotics
1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
grape seed extract. 2/04/08 garlic
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
 
 


Sherman Tank
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   Posted 2/10/2008 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Kazygirl,

Ive been through the first three levels of the Forum. I got a lot out of it- though more on the life skills- ways to cope with life level rather than the breakthrough level. My husband went through it as well and came out ten years younger-emotionally! I would recomend this course to just about anyone. Like most of these types of group therapies its lasting power isn't fabulous. Still I don't regret the time or money spent on it, nor does my husband.
I wouldn't go into it to cure UC but rather to change for the better- give anyone a better outlook on life/way to be in this rather maddening world. It IS expensive though, but no worse than what I spend on meds and copays in a years time. they also offer scholarships sometimes.
Anyway-im happy you had such a good response to the forum. I choose chocolate!;)
Diagnosed proctosigmoiditis/ UC 2004
Misdiagnosed with just Hemeroids since I was 12!!
Bad flare after birth of first son in 2004,
another bad flare pregnant with 2nd baby summer 2006
recent reallly bad flare Dec 2007- 1st time w/ prednisone
Just tapered off Jan 20,2008, Flaring again today :(
Asacol for last 4 years 3pills 2X's, ROWASA as needed up to 3X's a day,
now just Asacol 3X's a day, probiotics 2X's, fish oil
Tryed-acupuncture, herbal remedies


Sara14
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   Posted 2/10/2008 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
None of us have UC because we chose it. And many of us have accepted that we have it, but that doesn't make it go away. It's not that simple, unfortunately. Glad you're in remission, but Landmark sounds like a cult.

This is what someone said who went to the forum (from one of the links posted above): "they make you sit there for 3 hours and tell you that if you need to go to the bathroom it is because you have no ability to manage yourself..." Scary.


24 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - daily
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D)

Post Edited (Sara14) : 2/10/2008 11:07:34 PM (GMT-7)


serendipity24
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   Posted 2/11/2008 2:45 AM (GMT -6)   
you can also lookup landmark eduation on wikipedia and they have links to news publications from Times, NY Magazine, and the boston globe. These guys have been around for a long long time, and have been controversial from the start. and as a side note, 'outreach' (ie: recruitment), is one of their goals of the forums. I'm glad it worked for you kazygirl, and I hope it continues to, but be careful with how much money you're giving to this multi-million dollar PRIVATE organization. In my mind, anyone doing good things for people should be spreading the money around and be a non-profit.
Rachel

23 yrs old
Diagnosed with UC: March 2004 with probable IBS component

Currently taking:
Asacol 4pills 3x/day
Prograf 5mg/day
(Prograf is my miracle drug! It doesn't seem to be well known, but it's fantastic!)

Previously Tried:
Prednisone (works, but such awful side effects!), 6-MP (gave me acute pancreatitis), Entocort, Cipro (antibiotic), Bentyl, Canasa suppositories, a couple different enemas


kazygirl
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   Posted 2/11/2008 6:45 AM (GMT -6)   

hey, fair enough.  i hear you all and ive read the articles.

my husband always calls it a cult just to mess with me.  people always knock down stuff like this. its okay. everyone is entitled to their opinion.   at the moment i dont care what it is, i just care that overnight i am suddenly in full blown remission. like i never had it.

they talk about that stuff in there and they also have lots of positive articles written by medical and scientific experts.

i am not spending any more money with them. i thought $575 was super expensive until i did it and now i would pay 3 times that.
i didnt go to cure UC and they didnt claim they could help that.  that was just "my" outcome. everyone gets something different out of it.

also, i am in NO way affiliated at all with these people. i just did the forum on the recommendation from my business coach.  and i thought it was great.  they dont contact me or anything. 

sara14 said...
This is what someone said who went to the forum (from one of the links posted above): "they make you sit there for 3 hours and tell you that if you need to go to the bathroom it is because you have no ability to manage yourself..." Scary.
well, they just dont want you to miss anything since they teach a whole heap of stuff in just 3 days.  i told them my situation about UC and they gave me a reserved seat sign to sit by the door near the toilets.  so i had no problems. 
 
serendipity24 said...
how much money you're giving to this multi-million dollar PRIVATE organization. In my mind, anyone doing good things for people should be spreading the money around and be a non-profit.
 
okay, first off, i disagree.  i am a business owner and if i had good info and education to give people why shouldnt i be able to make money doing it.  i dont care if they make billions of dollars.  they have a good education to give people and i havent yet met anyone who regretted spending the money.  if you want to go then go. if you dont, then dont.  easy.
i thought it was worth every penny.  i want my family to go, but they dont want to so i dont bug them. 
 
i never claimed that it could cure anyone's uc... i just said what i got out of it and wanted to share in case it helps anyone else.
 
i do not personnally think that it is snake oil or a scam.  you might get something else out of it.  it is like life education i guess you can say.
it works with any person in any culture in any religion with any beliefs.  it doesnt even go there with any of that stuff. very neutral in that regard.
i would love to explain more about it, but its hard to explain exactly.
sherman tank.. you've been.. can you explain it?
 
also, blesssteve... they have no idea about any of the 250 people that attend each forum so they dont take advantage of anyone. they dont advertise either.  you either go or you dont.  and once your there, you can leave if you want.  or you can listen and learn.
i didnt experience or see anything dodgey or suspect at all.
in fact, to even go you have to sign a waver saying that you are NOT mentally weak or have any mental issues.  they warn against anyone with mental problems attending. 
 
anyhoo, i gotta go to bed.
if anyone has any more questions.. .i hope i can answer them
g'night
steph - 31 - female - diagnosed UC in 2000
it was all over the place in my colon... but not anymore!
last month and a half has been fabulous with no UC symptoms at all (after a year long painfully horrible flare) 
weaned off everything now i can't sleep  =(
but i love remission woohoo!
 
 


Rio in Maryland
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   Posted 2/11/2008 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
I've not attended the Landmark Forum and have no affiliation with them but it's disappointing to read a lack of enthusiasm or optimism from some of you for someone who was having a very difficult time with UC and is now on the mend.  I had read kazygirl's earlier posts when she was flaring and it didn't sound good at all then.
 
Sure, there are a lot of organizations that take advantage of people who are desperate for answers or cures and it's very wise to diligently research whatever is out there.  I think most of us have realized by now that, given the individualized nature of UC, something that works for one person may not work for the rest, and something that works for the rest may not be effective on one person.  So, I wouldn't judge something or label something as bs until I've been able to make that determination from my own experience. 
 
I agree that in an ideal world anyone doing something for the good of others would be a non-profit and not a private organization.
 
Unfortunately, most of us need the products and services provided by these 'private' organizations to help us get our health back.  A great example is Procter & Gamble - manufacturer of Asacol - a drug that many are dependent on (including most of the people who posted replies to this post).
 
It's always good to hear what works for someone, even if it may not appeal to some, because somewhere out there is a solution to UC.


Rio, 31 yr old male - diagnosed with UC in 07/2006.
 
Alternative therapies for several months (SCD, ayurvedic treatment, VSL#3): didn't work and became anaemic. Canasa, 2 daily: remission for a month then flared-up.
07/07-11/07: 4800mg Asacol (6 x 400mg, twice a day) & Aloe Elite.
Completed first (6 week) tapered course of Pred in 10/07, flaring up since coming off it.
11/07: Switched from Asacol to 12 x 750mg Colazal (3 weeks on it and symptoms got worse)
12/07: Asacol 4800 mg, Started Azathioprene 175mg, Prednisone 60mg - taper.


hekela
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   Posted 2/11/2008 11:37 AM (GMT -6)   
any wellness is good wellness.
congrats kazygirl!
28, happily married, stay at home mom to 2 year old son. due to have baby #2 9/17/08
UC (probably pancolitis, but no c-scope yet), diagnosed June 2006, started having major symptoms sometime in January 2006, about 3 months after childbirth. 2nd flare (minor) may 2007 after taking caprylic acid for 2 weeks.

-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
-Asacol, probiotics, ground psyllium husk, fish oil, prenatal

may you live all the days of your life.


Beth75
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   Posted 2/11/2008 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
that is great! Maybe it's helped manage stress that could have been affecting your UC? Who knows what actually did it...and if it did, that is fab!
Beth, 32
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07 ~ no blood since Dec 07 ~ almost normal bm
UC dx'd March 2000 (30 cenitmeters as of 2005-proctosigmoiditis)
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd Sept 2007
Prednisone 40mg 1xday, Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Tekturna 150mg 1xday, Fursomide 20mg 1xday.  Potassium 100mg 2xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.


texaswindmill
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   Posted 2/11/2008 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey there KazyGirl,

Ten years ago, I too did the Forum. Great stuff. It helped me with my asthma (I use to have severe asthma since birth). I have not had an attack since 1998 and rarely use my inhalers. Now, that I have UC, I am working on my "racket", my "story" with UC and wondering why the devil  devil did I choose UC?

Good for you on your self-discovery and healing! Remember, it's all made up :-)  and we are meaning-making machines.


Cheers,
Texas Windmill

UC: Left sided colitis, DX Nov-06
Started treatment 13-April-7: Asacol 3x3 and Bentyl as needed
As of 7-Dec-07: Bowels are happy.  Still doing 4 Asacol pills 3 times a day to make sure I am finished with my mini flare. 


quincy
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   Posted 2/11/2008 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
texaswindmill said...

Now, that I have UC, I am working on my "racket", my "story" with UC and wondering why the devil  devil did I choose UC?

 Remember, it's all made up :-)  and we are meaning-making machines.

Hi...could you expand on those statements a bit more based on the theme of this thread?
I'm really not clear on what you mean by it...you mean self created?
 
quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


texaswindmill
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   Posted 2/11/2008 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Quincy,

The comments are landmark terms (everything is made up, we are meaning making machines). My apologies for throwing in some lingo without explanations. I just wanted to give KazyGirl some support and hopefully a laugh for her new healing discovery.

 

 

 


Cheers,
Texas Windmill

UC: Left sided colitis, DX Nov-06
Started treatment 13-April-7: Asacol 3x3 and Bentyl as needed
As of 7-Dec-07: Bowels are happy.  Still doing 4 Asacol pills 3 times a day to make sure I am finished with my mini flare. 


kazygirl
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   Posted 2/11/2008 8:19 PM (GMT -6)   
thanx texaswindmill!!!
i so get it... we are meaning making machines. isnt it funny?
how difficult we make things for no reason.
"something happens, and we make it mean something" that is life and that is what we do on a minute by minute basis. but it really means nothing. it is just something that happened. it really wakes you up and to get on with life rather than dwell on the past which is gone and probably didnt even mean what you thought it did. lol

this is landmark lingo and its something you learn when you attend. it is hard to explain so that you "get it" unless you "do" it.
our reality is created on the basis of our perceptions and our interpretations of things.
they have a process of teaching that you actually, physically "get" what they are saying in just 3 days.

grats on getting rid of your asthma! thats awesome.
good luck on getting rid of your UC. remember, dont resist it. that makes it come back stronger!
just accept it and thats that.

anyhoo, thank you all for the well wishes!
steph - 31 - female - diagnosed UC in 2000
it was all over the place in my colon... but not anymore!
last month and a half has been fabulous with no UC symptoms at all (after a year long painfully horrible flare) 
weaned off everything now i can't sleep  =(
but i love remission woohoo!
 
 


BTC
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   Posted 2/11/2008 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I have an interesting take on this theory of wanting to be well that has been talked about from the seminars.  I read Daily Word and have a mailing from them regarding the three parts to healing: Have faith, be willing and give thanks. The "be willing" part describes asking yourself if you not only want to be healed but are you doing everything healthy to bring about healing. Just saw the similarity and thought I'd share.

Rio in Maryland
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   Posted 2/12/2008 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   

kazygirl,

I strongly believe in mind over matter and it's obviously great to read your progress (alas, my own matter is yet to follow what my mind believes...but I'm keeping at it!).

But just wondering, you mentioned having weaned off everything.  Does that mean you're also not taking any maintenance drugs at all?  And what does your GI doc think of this?


Rio, 31 yr old male - diagnosed with UC in 07/2006.
 
Alternative therapies for several months (SCD, ayurvedic treatment, VSL#3): didn't work and became anaemic. Canasa, 2 daily: remission for a month then flared-up.
07/07-11/07: 4800mg Asacol (6 x 400mg, twice a day) & Aloe Elite.
Completed first (6 week) tapered course of Pred in 10/07, flaring up since coming off it.
11/07: Switched from Asacol to 12 x 750mg Colazal (3 weeks on it and symptoms got worse)
12/07: Asacol 4800 mg, Started Azathioprene 175mg, Prednisone 60mg - taper.


Sara14
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   Posted 2/12/2008 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
texaswindmill said...


Now, that I have UC, I am working on my "racket", my "story" with UC and wondering why the devil [img]/community/emoticons/devil.gif[/img] did I choose UC?

Remember, it's all made up [img]/community/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] and we are meaning-making machines.


Hi...could you expand on those statements a bit more based on the theme of this thread?
I'm really not clear on what you mean by it...you mean self created?



quincy


I think the poster means that he/she chose to get UC, or at least that's what Landmark told him/her. It seems that Landmark tells people that its their fault if they got a chronic illness or any other negative thing happened in their life. If everyone would simply fork over tons of money to attend Landmark forums, and just "un-choose" UC, we'd be cured!!! Pretty disturbing stuff if you ask me.

BTW, Rio - I don't think anybody is showing a lack of enthusiasm or optimism toward kazy's remission, rather some of us are disturbed by Landmark's cult-like behaviors.
24 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - daily
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D)


texaswindmill
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   Posted 2/12/2008 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Sara14,

Landmark didn't tell me that it's my fault for getting asthma or UC. That would be rather disturbing indeed. However, since I have this physical ailment, I am going "to choose it" rather than resisting it. There is a subtle distinction in the way I think about my UC. I am now strongly, thanks KazyGirl, embracing/choosing the UC. WhooHOO! :-)  

Ten years ago, I embraced and took 100% responsibility for my severe asthma (hospital visits 4 times a year, breathing machines, and so much medication, all since birth). After choosing my asthma, I no longer visit the hospital, I no longer take medications, and I no longer wheeze. Am I cured? I think so. I still visit my pulmonary doctor once a year. He's amazed as much as I am. Did Landmark cure me? No. However, some of the thinking processes I learned helped me overcome some issues to my healing. I suspect that I will eventually be symptom free of UC.

I am LOL about the money and the cult-like comments. I only spent $350 back in '98, which is a huge bargin for the mental freedom I experience today and the fact that I don't have to shell out $ for hosptial visits and asthma medications. For the record, I always jokingly call it "the cult" too devil .

 


Cheers,
Texas Windmill

UC: Left sided colitis, DX Nov-06
Started treatment 13-April-7: Asacol 3x3 and Bentyl as needed
As of 7-Dec-07: Bowels are happy.  Still doing 4 Asacol pills 3 times a day to make sure I am finished with my mini flare. 


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   Posted 2/12/2008 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Gentle reminder: this is a forum for offering support and information about ulcerative colitis. It is not a forum for debating the merits of this or any other program. If you want to continue the debate, please take it somewhere else.

Thank you and have a great day.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Asacol, Rowasa, Pentasa, Prednisone, Entocort, Azathioprine
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri.
In remission since April, 2006. Remicade has been my wonder drug.
 
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   Posted 2/12/2008 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Sara14,
 
You're making my point even stronger.  This post is about someone finally getting better and not about whether Landmark Forum is a cult or not.  Celebrate that someone is feeling better.  We all know how hard it can be to achieve that. 
 
Something worked for her and she's excited about it, yet your questioning her first-hand experience based on your google, wikipedia and other online searches.  I'm sure if you backed up your work as an editor/writer with only references from online searches or other news sources without doing any primary research of your own, then soon your word wouldn't hold much credibility.


Rio, 31 yr old male - diagnosed with UC in 07/2006.
 
Alternative therapies for several months (SCD, ayurvedic treatment, VSL#3): didn't work and became anaemic. Canasa, 2 daily: remission for a month then flared-up.
07/07-11/07: 4800mg Asacol (6 x 400mg, twice a day) & Aloe Elite.
Completed first (6 week) tapered course of Pred in 10/07, flaring up since coming off it.
11/07: Switched from Asacol to 12 x 750mg Colazal (3 weeks on it and symptoms got worse)
12/07: Asacol 4800 mg, Started Azathioprene 175mg, Prednisone 60mg - taper.


jujub
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   Posted 2/12/2008 5:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I repeat - take your discussion of the merits of the program elsewhere. That is not the purpose of this board.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Asacol, Rowasa, Pentasa, Prednisone, Entocort, Azathioprine
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri.
In remission since April, 2006. Remicade has been my wonder drug.
 
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