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damo123
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   Posted 2/22/2008 2:02 PM (GMT -6)   
This is probably more an IBS question than an IBD question but I'll ask it anyways under the context of "bowel issues"!
 
Does anyone have issues with beef and red meat? I'm enjoying a wonderful remission but anytime I go near a certain type of red meat my BM become very watery. Then 12 - 24 hours they are perfect. The funny thing is that I'm fine with beef-burgers. My problem is a type of red meat we here in Europe called "minced meat" - ground beef really. If I eat that then my colon does a version of the amy whinehouse song "no no no"
 
So just wondering how IBD/S-ers get on with beef when they are in their remission state?
 
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princesa
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   Posted 2/22/2008 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I find I feel better when I avoid red meat or severely limit it. Is the ground beef your eating organic? Could be an additive or hormones in the meat that are setting you off.
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damo123
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   Posted 2/22/2008 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
It is organic yes. Thats the funny thing. The "bad" hamburger is no problem for my colon. But give it any organic beef and it dont like it. Can the fact its organic be a problem? Weally weally weird!
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quincy
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   Posted 2/22/2008 3:15 PM (GMT -6)   
No problem with beef for me...

Wouldn't burgers be minced/ground? How exactly are you meaning that the mince is...meaning the dish itself such as with carrots, onions and its own gravy?

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   Posted 2/22/2008 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Ground burger kills me I am beginning to think its the texture of the meat cooked I can feel it going threw me. I know that sounds crazy but i switched to turkey burger its a mushier texture. cant eat pork either, but that is just me.
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   Posted 2/22/2008 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
that's funny I wrote the other day about how I started the Atkins diet which is pretty much eating all meat, well protein anyway. After I started it I was in total remission for a good 8 months. And by remission I mean I felt better they I had felt before the colitis. I actually thought I was normal again. However I went back to my old habits of eating junk food daily and I am at the start of a flare. I am going to try the diet again this weekend and see what happens. for me it really seemed to help.

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   Posted 2/22/2008 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
The only meat that sometimes bothers me is pork, and that's because of the fat content in some cuts. If the ground beef burger doesn't bother you but the plain ground meat does, I'd say there may be something different in the minced meat.

By the way - "minced meat" in the US is a mixture of cubed beef, raisins, apples, sometimes currents and rum or brandy. It's sweetened with sugar and baked into a pie. Isn't language a funny thing?
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   Posted 2/22/2008 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I have no troubles at all with any meat product -beef, pork, chicken, lamb, etc ground or otherwise. In fact, it tends to make my Uc behave more - except really greasy things. Then it tends to loosen me up a bit. Turkey is a killer for me but not chicken.
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   Posted 2/23/2008 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I feel better when I eat beef also... With my work I do a lot of physical labor (I buy and sell hay for horses) so I need to eat protien every day to keep up my strength.... If I go without meat, I feel more tired and have less energy. I also noticed that if I eat more meat and veggies, I feel full longer and eat less overall than if I were stuffing myself with carbs all day like I used too....
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princesa
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   Posted 2/23/2008 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
damo123 said...
It is organic yes. Thats the funny thing. The "bad" hamburger is no problem for my colon. But give it any organic beef and it dont like it. Can the fact its organic be a problem? Weally weally weird!

Hmm... that's a new one on me. But I've learned to listen to my body and accept when it tells me something disagrees, even if there seems to be no logical explanation.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
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BigLucy
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   Posted 2/23/2008 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I was a vegetarian for 10 years when I was DX w/UC. I started eating meat (after DX) b/c needed protein, low-fiber food, etc. Really, the truth is, I was craving meat something bad, especially the last two years of vegetarianism; if I smelled someone BBQing it would drive me crazy! I really, really wanted it, but I eliminated meat from my diet b/c I thought it was a healthier lifestyle. Anyway, since my DX I eat meat and, believe it or not, it's the one thing that doesn't upset my stomach/system????? (well, not more than anything else if I'm having a bad time of it). I believe this illness is different for everyone such as, food sensitivity, pain level, frequency, etc. Just have to find out what works/doesn't work for you and follow your plan.

Severin
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   Posted 2/25/2008 1:34 AM (GMT -6)   
I can deal with beef mince in moderation, but I can't eat a steak... Not only does it give me major D for a few days, it causes a great deal of pain on the way through... :-(

And I LOVE a good mid-rare steak... Drenched in Worcestershire sauce, mmm *drools*
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   Posted 2/25/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I was a vege for years and started eating meat in college. Red meat doesn't bother me at all (evident by my McDonalds addiction!).
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   Posted 2/25/2008 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
My mom (IBS) does not do well with steak, but does okay with hamburger - something about the steak being harder to digest because of it's texture.

Red meat can cause sulfur gases to form when it is digested - that causes some people some gas pains.

I find that my body CRAVES meat when I'm flaring. It knows that it needs the protien to heal.
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   Posted 2/25/2008 3:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Yip Damo mince does it to me too.Your going to have to stay away from the old Irish stew.lol
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   Posted 2/25/2008 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Red meat is one of the few things that isn't problematic for me!
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