Posted 3/12/2008 7:18 AM (GMT -7)
Paul L said...
xtremefit said...

Not so fast. Here is a list of dead scientists that were either murdered or died mysteriously. So you draw your own conclusions.

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
http://home.comcast.net/~typezero/

Only 81 deaths since 2001 on the first list and 50 since 1994 on the second. Those are relatively small numbers compared to the number of scientist world wide. I would say that all that proves is that some scientist die mysteriously just like many other people, nothing more.

How many scientists worldwide are ever onto something in their research? You think it's coincidence that these scientists were mostly obducted and murdered?!

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Posted 3/12/2008 8:37 AM (GMT -7)
 Incidentally, most worked DNA sequencing research, most were emerging infectious disease or tropcical disease experts, most were Ft. Detrick alumnae or at least associated with USAMRIID and many were bioweapons contractors or associated with HHMI research grants.


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Posted 3/12/2008 9:01 AM (GMT -7)
Need I remind you all of this forum rule?
 
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Posted 3/12/2008 9:01 AM (GMT -7)
Boy, I'm glad this isn't a conspiracy theories website! Too much of this would give us a flare.

Like Quincy, I'm just glad there are meds to make me function better. Since I can't take some of the earlier meds, I'd be in a bad place without the newer ones.
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Posted 3/12/2008 10:48 AM (GMT -7)

I agree with your Mods and 100% with Quincy................

I remember Jonas Salk as I was in the first group of children to receive the vaccine and thanks to him, I did not live in an iron lung.

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Posted 3/13/2008 8:43 PM (GMT -7)
Well, I'm confident in the research that goes on here in Canada and I do believe their goal is to find a cure and in the meantime, better meds that don't have such horrible side-effects...I guess if you're a pesimist then it would make sense to believe that a cure will never be found, luckily I'm optimistic....

http://www.touchgastroenterology.com/developments-pharmacological-treatment-inflammatory-a7835-1.html

 

 

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Posted 3/13/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -7)
xtremefit said...

Not so fast. Here is a list of dead scientists that were either murdered or died mysteriously. So you draw your own conclusions.

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
http://home.comcast.net/~typezero/
 
That's some crazy stuff...I hadn't heard of that before. I've been meaning to read the link you posted in the other thread about flouride, too, when I get a chance.
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Posted 3/13/2008 10:54 PM (GMT -7)
pb4 said...
Well, I'm confident in the research that goes on here in Canada and I do believe their goal is to find a cure and in the meantime, better meds that don't have such horrible side-effects...I guess if you're a pesimist then it would make sense to believe that a cure will never be found, luckily I'm optimistic.... 
 
I agee that Canada is doing tons of research....especially for better efficient meds that don't have such horrific side-effects...some are scary.  I think, however, that funding is better solicited if the word "cure" is in the statement. 
 
Being (luckily) optimistic won't change the outcome of whether there's a cure found or not...it'll just make you feel better while waiting. 
 
respectfully, of course...:-)
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Posted 3/14/2008 10:10 AM (GMT -7)
Well Duh LOL, but the reason I'm optimistic is because of all that I read, especially from my CCFC journals...I'm not necessarily patient that's for sure, but I know that as each day passes they are getting closer to a cure based on all the info I've read so far...I'm confident there will be one in my life time, I just hope it's not right at the end of it LOL!

With more and more people becomming DX with IBD that puts IBD on track for a cure to be found, I highly doubt the pharmaceutical companies have a stronger pull than the governments around the world, I'm pretty sure that with more and more getting government disability due to IBD and the strain it puts on health care systmems as well, that a cure will be forced out, the preasure is on....that's how I look at it as far as the big picture goes...besides, I doubt a cure would be cheap and who's to say that a "cure" might not be an injection or such, that's needed every yr or couple of yrs.

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Posted 3/14/2008 10:28 AM (GMT -7)
Cure?  What diseases have been cured in the past 50 years?  I never hear of cures, lots of new drugs yes, but cures?  All of these major illnesses out there, auto-immune, cancer, diabetes etc.  Maybe the genetic revolution will bring on new drugs that act as "cures."  The goal should be to cure, but it seems the goal of the medical establishment is to control symptoms.  There is no money in curing, only in keeping people just sick/well enough to continue taking more drugs.  You go to your GI, they tell you what drugs they want you to take, not advice on getting well.  If it doesn't make them money they don't talk about it.  The whole med establishment is just like every other industry...there in business to make money not to cure. 
 
 
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Posted 3/14/2008 10:35 AM (GMT -7)
Please let this go now. This is a support forum, not a debating society.
 
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This is controversial and doesn't belong here.  As requested before, please abide by these forum rules or the post will be locked.
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Posted 3/15/2008 3:51 AM (GMT -7)
Seriously. We don't want to offend any of the sites rx sponsors. tongue
 

Posted 3/15/2008 4:49 AM (GMT -7)
UC Dude....Really let it go. I think there have been enough warnings. Peter will be notified next. At this point you are being disrespectful of the mods and the forum.
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