SCD type diets

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damo123
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   Posted 4/2/2008 5:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Suppose you've been eating bad for a long time, lots of sugar, fried food etc and decide to radically change your diet to say something akin to SCD or some other "good and balanced" low-sugar and low processed food diet.
 
My question is: Will your body go through withdrawals symptoms before you begin to see the benefits of this change. It seems like an awful big change on the body so I'm just wondering does the body need to adjust before it starts to become healthy inside once again.
 
I'm not really talking about the "die off" antifungal dietary effect here. Just wondering whether you have to feel bad before you feel good if you do radically change your diet.
 
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quincy
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   Posted 4/2/2008 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I think a lot of the changes would be emotional....but if one eats a lot of junk food and sugar, there would be some withdrawal process.

I have a friend on the SCD...she loves to cook, so it's not a problem for her. She has less discomfort and is able to have treats...but of a different variety...I don't think she was a sweet addicts anyway, so the changes are more of the regimen of eating more often..etc.

The SCD is easier to digest apparently.

I definitely feel better when I have more healthy foods than junk...but I don't eat a lot of junk food anyway...it does have its place, however.

There are always better choices...but one's healthy doesn't mean it will agree.

If you're going to try it...keep us posted as to how you're doing.

quincy
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hekela
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   Posted 4/2/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
my body only felt bad and never felt better when doing scd and antifungal. however i do very well eating very little processed food.

i know they say to just jump into the diet and do the "starting diet" and all that. but for me personally, i think a gradual change would have been more friendly to the colon. and then eventually work my way to the starter diet.
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princesa
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   Posted 4/2/2008 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think you can expect to see immediate results when radically changing the diet. It certainly will take time - sometimes a lot of time - for the body to heal from years of eating poorly. In addition, many other factors come into play: withdrawal and cravings for sugar, caffeine or basically any food for which you have (perhaps unknowingly) a delayed food reaction. A healthier diet could mean increased fiber intake which would be an adjustment. It could also mean you begin to eat something that, while allowed on the diet, does not agree with you personally - leaving you feeling worse. IBDers have such sensitive digestions, I do tend to agree that a more cautious introduction might be good, but you never really know until you try since our responses vary so widely.

There's a lot of trial and error involved. Keeping a food journal is very helpful. Because it's so tough to isolate problem foods, some folks do well with the approach of limiting themselves to very few, super non-reactive foods for a week or so, then gradually adding new foods in one at a time to test for reactions. This approach isn't much fun and takes some discipline, but it can be very informative.
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me,too
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   Posted 4/4/2008 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
i'm doing the maker's diet, similar to scd. i think the mistake most people make is to have skimpy and very bland meals when on these diets. make sure you have a platefull of food (even if its just lots of vegetables with your meat), and condiments like butter or olive oil. i also chop up fresh herbs and sprinkle them on my meals and usually always have a side of sauerkraut (made with no vinegar). i eat yogurt with berries and add flavors like honey and vanilla and flax oil... i think i felt badly from the disease and meds. i had low energy, was weak and felt depressed. but since i've eliminated grains i've gradually begun feeling normal (the diet did not make me feel worse). my last major flare was in may 07, i was off work until mid august. i've been cooking all my own meals, not using microwaves... i think maybe it took a few months to start feeling better. as i got off of my major meds: pred and remicade, symptoms started to come back... i went from just not eating grains to the maker's diet and the blood and mucous stopped. it's come back now and again, but it's a lot more manageable. i also had a huge "die-off" reaction sometime before the new year. basically i felt like i had a cold, as everyone around me was getting sick. my arms had a little joint pain prior to that, which i thought might be from the prednisone, from which i was off at this point. then the joint pain got unbearable, to the point that i couldn't lift myself off from my bed. this lasted a couple of days, then went away and i haven't had joint pains since. i've even started to exercise...

there is one thing about these diets, you have to be aware of what's going to work for you... i was doing an scd-type diet (didn't make my own yogurt though), but happened upon the maker's diet book, which said to start with goats milk dairy. i believe that this is what did it for me... so be aware of changes. actually i think because you regulate your food it can make you more aware of what's causing a problem, you just have to pay attention. for instance scd says almonds are legal, as does the maker's, but they do not work for me.

sorry for the ramble. i'm also still on asacol, and other natural remedies, but the diet seems to have made the main difference.

princesa
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   Posted 4/4/2008 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Whole nuts can be difficult to digest until you're fully healed. Have you tried nut butters? Or you could have an allergy to nuts. Any helpful diet still requires some individual tailoring.
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Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 


Crohny93
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   Posted 4/8/2008 12:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey ME,TOO ,
I am starting the maker's diet, but I am also in the middle of a bad flare up. Any suggstions? Iam scared to start eating the vegetables and the yogurt, since they were my bad foods that would run through me before. Any particular yougurt that you eat and what brand? Did you take any supplements when you first started the diet? How did you eat the vegetables?

Crohny93
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   Posted 4/9/2008 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey ME,TOO ,
I am starting the maker's diet, but I am also in the middle of a bad flare up. Any suggstions? Iam scared to start eating the vegetables and the yogurt, since they were my bad foods that would run through me before. Any particular yougurt that you eat and what brand? Did you take any supplements when you first started the diet? How did you eat the vegetables?
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