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Polarisjeff
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   Posted 4/5/2008 7:44 PM (GMT -6)   
OK, tough one: Should any mention be made of my condition during, say, a 2nd or 3rd job interview? Certainly not the type of thing you want to be talking about, especially in that situation, but I have been diagnosed with a chronic disease. Regardless of the level of control it can be kept under, this could very well make an employer mad down the line and bite me in the ass (ha ha). I had my first hospitalization this past January, but my new GI assures me it should never come to that again with proper management.
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Proctitis April 2006

6MP
Prednisone 15mg - tapering down
Asacol 5X400mg - twice daily
Canasa suppositories daily
Hydrocortisone enemas nightly

Probiotics, fish oil, Vitamin D, Ultra InFlamx, sea salt,

Status: Coming out of flare, slowly but surely,
after hospitalization in January 2008


sodbuster19
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   Posted 4/5/2008 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
No, don't say anything till after you've landed the job. Right now, it's none of their business, and if/when you start having problems, then say something. I wouldn't say a word before I got the job. This is just my opinion.

<FONT color=#0000ff>Bad flares Guniess & hot wings

Generic Colazal, 2 2xday
Acidophilus Probotic 3 times/day


BigLucy
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   Posted 4/5/2008 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
No! Americas with Diabilities will protect you if/when you get the job--oh, also a note from your doctor will protect you. I've had to take off a lot of time in the past two years and with a medical note from my doctor no one has said a word.
Dx Ulcerative Colitis 1999; IBS; GERD; CP: Asacol x3 x3/day, Rowasa, Proctofoam, Prilosec, Prozac, Endocet (as needed), multi vit, probiotic, fish oil, calcium 1200 mg./day, Prednisone (off/on, unfortunately).


julee70
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   Posted 4/5/2008 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I would not say something in an interview for a couple reasons... first, you don't have the job yet. So why start explaining why you might miss a day of work or be late in the morning? It seems too soon. Second, I think it's nicer to let the employer decide they really want you without having to consider extraneous information. If I were interviewing someone and he told me that he was sick and I didn't know much about the disease, I might get distracted by that instead of focusing on whether I really want to hire the guy. Then I would worry that if I reject the guy he'd sue me or something. Isn't it just better for the employer to consider you as a really good candidate for the job without having to worry about your health stuff?

I know it seems like full disclosure is best but I definitely think it could wait. Do you really think it could make an employer mad to find out that an employee has health issues? I wouldn't want to work for that kind of employer. :)
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UC for the last ten years
Current Meds: 6MP since 2006, Cortifoam
Past Meds: You name it; I've tried it. (Asacol, Colazol, Pentasa, DiPentum, Rowasa, Canasa, Cortenema, sulfasalazine)
5ASA drugs don't work for me. Canasa seems to make me worse.


:)
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   Posted 4/5/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
You don't want to bring this up duting an interview. You want to put yourself in the best light and show all your strenghts. Unless your condition really imepedes your ability to work productively, i dont think you should mention it.
Dx: Dec. 2006 with UC
F, 23, NYC
Thank G-d - Prednisone then 6MP, Rowasa and Asacol brought remission
Now Asacol 4tabs 2x a day.
Muiltivitamin, Iron and Folic Acid supplements


jujub
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   Posted 4/5/2008 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely don't bring it up. It puts the hiring supervisor in the difficult position of trying not to factor that in when selecting the best candidate. Prospective employers aren't allowed to ask about disabilities of illnesses that might affect work, only if you would be able to perform the required job functions, either with or without reasonable accommodations. And they have to either ask everyone that or no one.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Asacol, Rowasa, Pentasa, Prednisone, Entocort, Azathioprine
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri. In remission since April, 2006.
 
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The information I share on this forum is based only on my own experience and study. It is important to consult your health care provider when making health-related decisions.


barbl
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   Posted 4/5/2008 11:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Interviews are for selling yourself, explaining why you are the best canidate. Not for creating objections.
Dx'D in 1990. Remission 1991 - 1/2005
Both flares were in extremely stressful times in my life
Colonoscopy 10/2005 80% of Colon diseased, or as I like to say "Intestinely challenged"
*****9/2007 dumped my GI who I refer to as "Satan" New GI, new med TOTAL remission with in 2 weeks.
Colazal 9 capsules a day*****


Old Hat
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   Posted 4/5/2008 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Absolutely not! You have no obligation to the employer at this point, but you do have personal need for income + dependents to support. I would never have mentioned UC to my employer except that I got into a severe flare at one point when I had to take disability leave for 3 months. Even though I work under management of well-educated people, I find most of them to be clueless about IBD & its complications. Unless someone has heart disease or cancer, they tend not to take health issues compassionately! / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC; currently on 3 Colazal daily for maintenance of remission)

jamo0001
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   Posted 4/6/2008 12:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Not until you're hired. NEVER until you're hired.

And if they do anything about it once you're hired, then find a lawyer.
James

21 yrs old, diagnosed severe pan ulcerative colitis 2 Mar 2007
Hospitalized 27 Apr-5 May 2007
Remission since 4 July 2007
Asacol (mesalamine) 400 mg x 12 daily
Remicade <--first infusion on 3 May 2007; currently once every 8 weeks
Imuran (azathioprine) 50 mg x 2 daily
Eating fruits and vegetables like there is no tomorrow...
"God bless Remicade!"


Mildewval
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   Posted 4/6/2008 2:47 AM (GMT -6)   

Never disclosed personal information at an interview!!!!! It is not important. I wouldn't say anything until you have an issue.

But also be aware, that merely having a doctor's note does not protect you from loosing your job. At this point, in the US, you don't really have any protections if you have a chronic condition, until you have been at your job for one year, and have worked 1250 hours in that year, to qualify for FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act).  

ADA would not necessarily protect you from being fired for excessive abscences from work. ADA requires a REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. This is a broad term but does not mean that an employer would need to accommodate someone missing work beyond the attendance policy or what they consider "excessive". Nor would it require an accommodation for tardiness. It could mean that you are placed closer to a bathroom or the flexiblity to work from home (if this is possible). I'm sure there are other accommodations, but it would depend on what you needed.

If you did disclose your condition at any point and were fired or not hired because of it, then you would have a case. But it would have to be because they fired you because you have an illness, not because you missed work. It doesn't really sound fair, but really if you think about it does make sense. If you can't work, you can't work. It is a burden for coworkers if everyone isn't at work as required.  

I work in HR and recently had to terminate someone that has IBD. It was hard for me, and I felt great compassion for him (obviously!), but in his first two months of employment he was hosptialized twice and missed a total of about 3 weeks of work. It was unfortunate but we couldn't work with it. I did tell him I would work with him to find another position in the organization after he had gotten things a bit more under control. He emailed me last week and is feeling better so I am trying to place him in a position. He will be a great employee, I think, if he can get his symptoms under control. Really I think he tried too hard to come back to work before he was ready and it just snowballed for him.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but it is the reality out there.


Pancolitis since October 2004
Currently experiencing symptoms- blood and mild pain. Have started ANOTHER round of enemas.
My drugs of choice: Asacol 2-3 times a day (if I remember), Imuran, Canasa suppositories every other day, probiotics, fish oil, Iron, multi-vitamin
My other therapies of choice: Yoga, walking, my animals, and whining.


BigLucy
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   Posted 4/6/2008 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Mildewval: Now that I think about it, you're right about ADA. Like to ask you something as a HR person, doesn't a doctor's note count/help/protect you in any way? Maybe I'm in a different position b/c I've worked at my place for over 10 years, have proven myself and haven't had major difficulties until the past two years. I've been working PT, 25 hrs week, for the past year and went back FT last week, although really should have stayed PT. But I didn't want to push it and I feel somewhat guilty b/c I'm in a FT position and I'm thinking if I can't work FT I should look for a PT job somewhere, but I need the health coverage--viscous circle!

P.S. The IBD person you just had to let go was new so somewhat understandable, how would your company handle a person who's been there for 10 years? Sorry, for personalizing this guys, but last week was really, really hard for me and I'm starting to freak out about my future. Thanks.
Dx Ulcerative Colitis 1999; IBS; GERD; CP: Asacol x3 x3/day, Rowasa, Proctofoam, Prilosec, Prozac, Endocet (as needed), multi vit, probiotic, fish oil, calcium 1200 mg./day, Prednisone (off/on, unfortunately).


Mildewval
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   Posted 4/6/2008 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
BigLucy- No a doctor's note doesn't really protect you in any way.With that said, I think most employers will work with you, at least for a time. But really if you are missing work that is the bottom line for them. And if they feel you are missing too much than they will let you go. That is why it is very important if you have been at your job for more than a year and you have problems to get on FMLA. Are you on FMLA? That is your best protection and one that is guaranteed. If you aren't on FMLA I'm surprised because if we have people that start missing work but have a doctor's note I always call the employee to see if they need FMLA (a lot of people don't know about it.) If they haven't talked to you about it you need to contact your HR person as soon as possible to get it set up. It does sound like you ahve a good situation but you never know when your boss might have a bad day and decide they are done with you. (I get calls like that a lot too from managers. Luckily for the employee, I know what it is like to be sick!)

YOu can take FMLA intermittenly too- it doesn't have to be 12 weeks consecutively. This is something that the gov. is looking to change but hopefully that won't happen. It seems like most of the leaves I work on are for people that have chronic conditions that just flare up- like asthma and diabetes. If the law was changed it would be very detrimental to people like us you know, where you have times of good health and times of bad health.

It would have been very different if the IBD person had been with us for 10 years. First I would have put him on FMLA. And even if he used all of his allotment for that we would have extended it by 30 days as a personal leave. I personally think that when someone has been loyal for a long time it is important to be loyal to them as well.
Pancolitis since October 2004
Currently experiencing symptoms- blood and mild pain. Have started ANOTHER round of enemas.
My drugs of choice: Asacol 2-3 times a day (if I remember), Imuran, Canasa suppositories every other day, probiotics, fish oil, Iron, multi-vitamin
My other therapies of choice: Yoga, walking, my animals, and whining.


BigLucy
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   Posted 4/6/2008 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Mildewval: After a major flare and two week hosp. I got a doctor's note "excusing" me from work for six months and my MD signed for state disability (which wasn't too bad, 65% of my salary). FMLA, I have heard of it, but thought it was for pregnancy and family issues, etc. how long does it last and do you get an income and do you get an income, and how much? I guess I never explored FMLA b/c my situation worked out well for me, but as I stated before, I am worried about the future, my conditions seem to be at a different intensity level.

To all: I don't mean to hijack the thread, but does seem to relate in a major way.
Dx Ulcerative Colitis 1999; IBS; GERD; CP: Asacol x3 x3/day, Rowasa, Proctofoam, Prilosec, Prozac, Endocet (as needed), multi vit, probiotic, fish oil, calcium 1200 mg./day, Prednisone (off/on, unfortunately).


NMcP
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   Posted 4/6/2008 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
First off, I'm with everyone else. Never disclose that type of information in an interview.

Second, if you already have a job, how they deal with it depends on a ton of factors. First, are you union or not, second, are you a govt employee, third, is your job one that requires you to be on your feet, on the floor at all times, etc, etc. Is there someone else that can perform your activities if you are out? Can you telecommute? Can you work flextime? How does your company handle disabilities? How big is your company? If you work for a larger firm (or the govt) there should be some information out there for you on how to deal with this. If not, if you start to feel flar-ish, you can talk to your management to see how to work thru this together. If you are a good employee, it benefits you both to see if things can be negotiated.

Mildewval
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   Posted 4/7/2008 12:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Here is some information on FMLA: http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/

This site has a lot of information but if you have questions let me know. It is quite complicated.

It does not provide pay or anything, it just protects your job.

Here is a link on ADA: http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/disability/ada.htm

The state you live in may have additional protections so you may want to look at your state's department of labor site.

Hope this helps. I might put in a different thread too because I think it is really important for people to understand their rights. Employers aren't always the best at letting you know :)
Pancolitis since October 2004
Currently experiencing symptoms- blood and mild pain. Have started ANOTHER round of enemas.
My drugs of choice: Asacol 2-3 times a day (if I remember), Imuran, Canasa suppositories every other day, probiotics, fish oil, Iron, multi-vitamin
My other therapies of choice: Yoga, walking, my animals, and whining.


Beth75
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   Posted 4/7/2008 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   
look at it another way, you don't know what is going to hapapen in the future. For instance, I have legal guardianship over my mother and at times I need to take time off of work or come in late etc. or take/make calls during the day from time to time.

I would not disclose this information and I would not disclose my UC. They are different but kind of the same in that the needing to take time off of work. Everyone has stuff to deal with and that is what personal, vacation, sick, and fmla is for.
Beth, 32 ~ Major Flare Sept/Oct 07 ~ in remission
UC dx'd 03/00 (Proctosigmoiditis); Pancolitis since 09/07
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Prilosec, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd 09/07 - partial remission since 03/08
Prednisone 25mg 1xday (taper 5mg a week from 60 = ), Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Enalpril 10mg 1xday, Fursomide 20mg 1xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.  Do you have edema? If so, check your protiens!
Pre-Diabetic from Prednisone use - Low carb/sugar diet & exercise.


princesa
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   Posted 4/7/2008 1:22 PM (GMT -6)   
As usual, I'm going to buck the tide. IF you're on your second or third interview and are about to be hired and IF your condition is such that you know you'll spending a noticeable amount of time in the restroom and/or coming in late in the morning or missing days altogether, I would discuss it with a prospective employer. I wouldn't want to put myself in a position to feel pressured to hide an illness or have an employer feel disappointed with my ability to do my job.

I interviewed for a job with a small Web development company in the first couple of years after my diagnosis when I was still obviously pretty sick. When they offered me the job, I told them honestly what my situation was and assured them I could provide excellent work in exchange for a little leniency - mornings were often tough for me - and they were very understanding. If they had been sticklers for punching the clock and restroom breaks, I wouldn't have wanted to work there.

On the other hand, I interviewed for my current job after I had learned how to manage my condition and had sustained a long-term remission. I didn't mention my health at all because it was no longer a factor.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 

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