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   Posted 5/4/2008 12:54 AM (GMT -6)   

This post is a general post about losing it, but also a motivation to get a move on it...

Didnt it feel great to lose that weight? Now that its back, dont you want to lose it? Losing weight bec. of this is sometimes nice. Sometimes, for some people it is even enjoyable (the weight loss not the UC). But now that its back, will it be any harder to lose? Also, has anyone been succesful at losing it or keeping it off through efforts of their own like diet and excersize?

My Experience:
I lost 25 lbs. 3 months before dx.
Now its been 15 months since dx, GLADLY gained the all the weight back. I say GLADLY because I'm healthy!! So what if there's a self-sabotaging war being waged in my colon, right now, its in remission and i'm healthy and feeling good. While i am not happy about gaining back those fabulous 25 pounds i lost and felt great without them, having gained it back is an AMAZING sign. Things are working 'down there' and i'm thankful!

I seems attainable and acheivable mainly because i SAW and EXPERIENCED being 25 lbs. less than i am now. So thats my #1 motivation. I was there. I was able to fit into 4 sizes smaller than i am. I felt great. I could move around more freely and felt so darn GOOD shlepping less poundage!

Now, taking that first step toward 'weight loss' is and will be much harder than losing it because they literally slid off on their own and i gained it back by eating everything and anything i wanted. and then some.

Motivation #2 is that I work as a Head Lifeguard in a camp for sick children. Being "weighty" in swimming attire is no fun:) Last year i was thinner but lethargic because i was still healing. This year, i plan on being thinner than now, active and succeeding at this losing weight thing.

I plan on doing that through 'diet and excersize.' Nothing extreme or celebrity-ish. I plan on keeping a Food Journal, which i began a few weeks ago. I've been writing what and when i eat and when the bathroom trips took place on what the bm looked like. I've been trying to put it on paper to figure out what foods agree with me and what are more 'volatile' as well as examine how my body digests them;)
So keeping up the food journal, using my gym memership and getting off my rear-end more often is the plan. Obviously with conscious timing and planning of excersize.

Gulp, in reality, how does one really begin being active after such a long hiatus? Work with a personal trainer? Read a book on fitness? Just start anywhere? Just start using the treadmill? I think i'm scared. i dont know why or of what. dont know where to begin or what will be most effective. maybe i'm afraid of failing or even of success. At any rate, I need support in this endeavor....

 

 


Dx: Dec. 2006 with UC
F, 23, NYC
Thank G-d - Prednisone then 6MP, Rowasa and Asacol brought remission
Now Asacol 4tabs 2x a day.
Muiltivitamin, Iron and Folic Acid supplements


SwollenColon
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   Posted 5/8/2008 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Losing weight is simple......cut your caloric intake. Use a tracking website (www.fitday.com is good), track what you eat for a couple weeks, then tally up the daily calorie intake. If you haven't gained or lost, then this # is your maintenance caloric intake. Cut that by 500 calories/day till you start losing. When you plateau, drop another 500 calories/day. Keep doing this till you reach your desired weight. Basically if you want to weigh 100 lbs, eat enough food to sustain a 100lb bodyweight. You can't eat what a 200lb'er eats and expect to weight 100 lbs.

love4cats
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   Posted 5/8/2008 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Weight loss for me has always been very difficult and gaining very easy. I used to be a size 18, but am down to about 6-8 (6 during flares, 8 between) for the last 4 years. I started with the help of my hubby. He actually introduced me to the eliptical and I loved it, bought one in 2003 and have used it 4 times a week since.

Started out slowly, cut back on junk food, but did not deprive myself, then it just like a punishment and it should be a lifestyle change.

I gain weight between my flares and am able to take the weight off so easily when I flare because I can't eat anything except fresh fruit and veggies and really have no appetite, so having UC has helped keep the weight off.

To control my weight between flares (which I am not very successful at, lol) I exercise vigorously 4 times a week, walk 40 mins daily, and have cut out greasy foods and don't eat junk, or sweets. I am also very tired, but force myself to keep on this schedule. It was very important to find an exercise that I enjoyed doing, and at a time that was most convenient to me (right after work, before supper). I would never be motivated to go to the gym unless somebody pushed me, besides, I need a toilet really close by because when I work out I need to go... especally when I am flaring. I use a quality eliptical in my basement watching TV.

One thing that help me stay movtivated is Dr Phil's saying " the hour is going to pass whether you are sitting in front of the TV or working out..."

I would never be able to loose weight by diet alone. You are right, it feels good to not have excess weight and be in shape.

In another forum I frequent, they have a weight loss challenge between some members. It is very successful and motivating.

Good luck.


 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 
Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


hana24
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   Posted 5/8/2008 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
We bought a Noric track eliptical machine and I love it. I can't go to a gym because of the UC. It is impossible for me to lose weight with just diet - and I feel so much better when I exercise - as long as I am not feeling too bad. If that makes sense.
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


princesa
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Keeping a strict food journal is a great start. I use www.fitday.com, too. You might be surprised what your caloric intake is and how imbalanced your protein/carbs/fat macros are. The Eat Clean Diet book by Tosca Reno is a great, basic source of information on healthy eating. I agree it has to become a lifestyle, not a temporary diet. I find that having UC gives me plenty of motivation to eat clean because the results of "cheating" are more painful for us than for average folks.

Your exercise plan should include both weight training and cardio. Don't be afraid to weight train, you won't bulk up as most women fear. Gaining lean muscle mass raises your metabolism and allows you to burn more calories even at rest. Muscle development is what gives women sexy shape you won't achieve with cardio alone. Regular cardio sessions - some steady state and some high intensity intervals - will help melt off excess fat.

Do you have a gym membership? If so, a few personal training sessions would be a great idea. I wouldn't advise just jumping in with no plan. If you'd rather workout at home, check out Cathe Friedrich's DVDs - great cardio workouts and serious gym style weight training. Her instruction and form pointers are great for newbies to lifting. www.cathe.com
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 


Got2Believe
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Make the majority of what you eat vegetables. You will get full and not take in many calories. And the good part is it's healthy for your body and your UC should benefit.

SwollenColon
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   Posted 5/8/2008 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
It's flat wrong to claim you can't lose weight with just dieting. It's simple thermodynamics......your body requires X amount of energy (calories) to function. Consuming less than X will yield weight loss, consuming more than X will yield a weight gain. Cardio (steady-state) type exercise will definitely burn some calories, but not much unless you do 2+ hrs daily. Besides, which is easier.......not eating that additional 500 calories, or eating it, then having to spend an hour on an elliptical machine burning it back off?
Don't get me wrong, cardio is definitely good for your overall health, but shouldn't be relied on for weight loss. IMO weight training is the best option. You can consume a slight caloric surplus, and let your body use it to repair and rebuild lean muscle tissue instead of storing it as fat. Don't worry ladies.......you won't 'bulk up', you lack the required amount of testosterone to build huge muscles, but you will be better off with a stronger, leaner body, and the promotion of bone growth will aid in stemming the effects of steroid intake.

ediekristen
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   Posted 5/8/2008 3:40 PM (GMT -6)   
SwollenColon said...
It's flat wrong to claim you can't lose weight with just dieting. It's simple thermodynamics......your body requires X amount of energy (calories) to function. Consuming less than X will yield weight loss, consuming more than X will yield a weight gain. Cardio (steady-state) type exercise will definitely burn some calories, but not much unless you do 2+ hrs daily. Besides, which is easier.......not eating that additional 500 calories, or eating it, then having to spend an hour on an elliptical machine burning it back off?
Don't get me wrong, cardio is definitely good for your overall health, but shouldn't be relied on for weight loss. IMO weight training is the best option. You can consume a slight caloric surplus, and let your body use it to repair and rebuild lean muscle tissue instead of storing it as fat. Don't worry ladies.......you won't 'bulk up', you lack the required amount of testosterone to build huge muscles, but you will be better off with a stronger, leaner body, and the promotion of bone growth will aid in stemming the effects of steroid intake.
"It is impossible for me to lose weight with just diet - and I feel so much better when I exercise - as long as I am not feeling too bad."
 
I think hana was just saying for her personally. Obviously it's possible for most everyone to lose weight by just dieting but sometimes it's just not that easy. It's like those commericials for diet pills where you see an overweight before picture and then a really thin, really toned lady saying "I lost all this weight by taking ___!" Sure, it helped losing weight but I'm sure she didn't get that 6 pack by laying on the couch popping diet pills.
 
Anyway, to the OP, I too have some extra weight I would like to lose... Well not so much the weight (I'm afraid to say how much I weigh because I know I'll get flogged for complaining!) but I'm just not in the shape I would like to be. I've been very self conscious lately of my abdomen and thighs mainly lately and would love to tone up, but with the colitis, I can't do one sit up without having to go to the bathroom and it makes exercise extremely difficult. I think you just need to find something that works for YOU and stick to it. If it's by way of diet and calorie counting, go for it. If you can tolerate going for jogs, go for them! Personally, I'm buying a bicycle this weekend and trying that route. And yoga has been good to me as well, for sure.
 
Whichever way you decided to go, good luck! As you already know, you CAN do it so don't get discouraged. :)
Female, 22, Ulcerative colitis (pancolitis) since 1999; GERD; gastritis; osteopenia in hip & lumbar region of spine from long term prednisone use

Current Meds:
10mg Lexapro (for depression/social anxiety)
125mg Azathioprine
4800mg Asacol (Four 400mg tablets, three times a day)
10meq Potassium
 
 


princesa
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   Posted 5/8/2008 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
ediekristen said...
 
I've been very self conscious lately of my abdomen and thighs mainly lately and would love to tone up, but with the colitis, I can't do one sit up without having to go to the bathroom and it makes exercise extremely difficult.
As the saying goes, "Abs are made in the kitchen, not in the gym." No amount of ab cruches is going to get rid of belly fat and reveal a six pack. Diet and cardio for fat loss are necessary. Also, if crunches are a problem, you could try functional fitness core work; different kinds of plank positions will strengthen the abs without irritating the guts.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 


ediekristen
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   Posted 5/8/2008 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh I know, I was just using crunches as an example :) Those are the most problematic, for obvious reasons. But running and jumping usually stirs things up too much and I just can't do it. I haven't had too much of a problem with yoga, though some positions I start to feel the burn and not in the good way. I've thought about trying pilates as well but I don't know too much about it yet. Maybe I should go pick up some DVDs.. heh
Female, 22, Ulcerative colitis (pancolitis) since 1999; GERD; gastritis; osteopenia in hip & lumbar region of spine from long term prednisone use

Current Meds:
10mg Lexapro (for depression/social anxiety)
125mg Azathioprine
4800mg Asacol (Four 400mg tablets, three times a day)
 
Not currently taking any colitis meds (between insurance plans and doctors) and mildly flaring. Looking into try all possible natural treatments for the time being.
 
 


SwollenColon
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   Posted 5/8/2008 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Unless Hana has some strange thyroid problem, she will lose weight by eating less food than it takes for her to maintain her current weight. It might not come off here she wants it too, and it might only be noticeable by standing on a scale, but she will lose weight. The caloric deficit rides on a sliding scale......as you start losing weight, you have to continue cutting the calories more and more else the weight loss will stop.

princesa
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   Posted 5/9/2008 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
ediekristen said...
Oh I know, I was just using crunches as an example :) Those are the most problematic, for obvious reasons. But running and jumping usually stirs things up too much and I just can't do it. I haven't had too much of a problem with yoga, though some positions I start to feel the burn and not in the good way. I've thought about trying pilates as well but I don't know too much about it yet. Maybe I should go pick up some DVDs.. heh

I found walking, yoga and weight training invaluable when I was flaring... you get the flexibility and strength training along with restoring bone loss from steroid use without the gut jostling.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 


love4cats
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   Posted 5/9/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
SwollenColon said...
Unless Hana has some strange thyroid problem, she will lose weight by eating less food than it takes for her to maintain her current weight. It might not come off here she wants it too, and it might only be noticeable by standing on a scale, but she will lose weight. The caloric deficit rides on a sliding scale......as you start losing weight, you have to continue cutting the calories more and more else the weight loss will stop.
You are right, but it is much easier and highly recommended that cardio and weight training be part of the whole life style change package.
 
For me personally, it is much easier to do cardio and watch what I eat otherwise I would be so focused on that I can't eat anything and become resentful.
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 
Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


hana24
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   Posted 5/9/2008 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
no thyroid problems here! I'm sure I could lose weight by diet only - I just don't feel like I get enough calories. And when I exercise for 30-40 min it helps me not be hungry. I do light weights with one of those ball things 3 times a week also. Well, when I am exercising. When I am in school and working I just get so busy. But right now I am just working part time and I dropped this semester because I was having UC problems which are getting a little better.

It says I burn 400 calories in 30 mins and I assume that is way off -it is probally more like 150-200. I wish those things were accurate.

Maybe I try to go too low on calories. I always try the Mayo clinic thing which says to do 1200 cal a day. When I try to diet/exercise I try to eat 1400 and do at least 30 min a day. But then I only last a week and I tell my husband to get a bottle of wine and pasta for dinner and then its all over:(
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


princesa
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   Posted 5/9/2008 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't know what your height and weight are, but 1200 calories a day is a very low intake. Going too low can backfire on you because it can send your body into starvation mode where it will hold on to everything it can. You might find this article on metabolism repair interesting:

http://www.musclewithattitude.com/readTopicMwa.do?id=1584213


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal.
 
 


hana24
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   Posted 5/10/2008 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I just do that because they say it is safe to lose 1-2 lbs a week, and most females need 1800-2000 cal a day but maybe it is too low since I can't stick with it. I wish I were someone with UC who lost weight...
Jessica 26/F On Entorcout again...
dicyclomine 10Mg before meals/bed
Citalopram 10 MG
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


Sara14
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   Posted 5/10/2008 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
www.sparkpeople.com is another helpful fitness Web site. It's free to sign up. You can track your calories there by entering in everything you've eaten throughout the day and the site will help you set up a fitness plan depending on how much weight you want to lose or what your other goals are. There are also tons of fitness message boards there to help you stay motivated and to meet others who have similar fitness goals. There is even an IBD message board there, though not nearly as active as this forum.

My only advice would be to start out slow, do a mix of cardio and strength training, watch what you eat and try to keep your goal in mind on those days you just don't feel like doing anything. I should really follow my own advice, heh...
24 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into complete remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - nightly; Canasa (1,000 mg) in the morning
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 2/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv

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