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Got2Believe
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   Posted 5/5/2008 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Do some people have such great immune systems and digestive systems it really doesn't matter how long they leave food out at room temperature? I am wondering about this b/c I don't eat anything left out long. BUt my friend makes dinner and leaves the leftovers in his microwave overnight and takes it to work the next day for lunch. Also  when my toddler was a baby her mother would leave her formula bottle already made in her crib. Now that I think about it my daughter did have lots of Diahrrea.
But why do some seem to be OK with eating left out food? I have heard that the tazmanian devil can eat rotten old meat, but I forgot the reason why.

hana24
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   Posted 5/5/2008 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
at my husbands work theres a guy who eats pizza after its been left out overnight and he hasn't ever gotten sick. Just thinking about it makes me think I might be sick. At my sister and laws house they leave food out a lot longer than me also and they don't cover the food in the fridge. I guess maybe it doesn't matter. I am obsessive about not getting sick from food. I guess just because I'm sick all the time from UC I don't want to add to it.
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   Posted 5/5/2008 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
OMG...NEVER!!!! Sounds like hazard waiting to happen.

Tazmanian Devil or any scavengers can digest any rotten food because they're "scavengers"....through evolution they've been developed that way.

Humans have a brain to tell them it's not healthy.....

Some people would never eat left-overs...even if in the fridge, etc. For some, food cooked twice is against their own food code...because it's already on the way to being rotten.

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   Posted 5/5/2008 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm pretty crazy about not eating food that's been left out; I figure I have enough trouble -- why invite it! I don't even give it to my puppy dog. But our family always jokes about how when we were younger, my Mom would leave chicken and hamburger out all day to defrost for dinner; and my in-laws did the same thing. I'm not sure why we all never got deathly sick from it, but no one ever did.

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pb4
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   Posted 5/5/2008 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
For some reason when I was a kid growing up, my mom did the same thing with pizza (leaving it out over night) and we'd all eat it, this was before I got CD and my mom got UC, but no one eles besides us has an IBD as of yet (it could still happen but I hope it doesn't for anyone eles in my family) I just have one sibling who has IBS.

As far as other foods, I get them into the fridge once they've cooled down enough, that is if there's any leftovers.

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princesa
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   Posted 5/5/2008 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Bleh... sounds terrible. Is it so difficult to stick leftovers in the fridge?

My grandparents used to leave a lunch spread out on the table until dinner time when a bunch of the relatives were there visiting... in the unairconditioned Arkansas heat, with flies buzzing around. It's a wonder we didn't all keel over. I'm glad I was too young to realize what was going on. I'm sure my poor Mother cringed every time she had to eat there.
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   Posted 5/5/2008 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
My gut is starting to gurgle just thinking about it all. Ick! :-)

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dakotagirl
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   Posted 5/5/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm a stickler for keeping things on ice or getting them in the fridge. Potlucks are a scary time for me!

I about fell over at a friends house when he stored the leftover pizza in the oven...
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   Posted 5/5/2008 4:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, it's bad enough that even in the fridge many foods create bad bacteria still that can be just as harmful...being in the fridge doesn't guarantee complete safety either as food will still rot in there, but it's important to make sure cooked foods are cooled at room temp, but not too cold, before going into the fridge.

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   Posted 5/5/2008 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Some foods are safer than others. Pizza actually is safer than some, because of the tomato in the sauce. Tomato is a highly acidic food, much less hospitable to bacteria and molds than, say, milk or eggs.
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kb5
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   Posted 5/5/2008 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't even eat leftovers that are in the fridge!

My husband is a different story. He will eat anything. It doesn't matter how long it's been out. When I met him he would put food (bowl of cereal with milk, hunk of cheese...) on his nightstand in case he got hungry. he would still eat it the next day if he didn't wake for a midnight snack.
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princesa
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   Posted 5/5/2008 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, mayo, eggs and organic meats without the usual preservatives are my biggest fears. If something looks or smells even slightly off, I toss it. Totally not worth taking a chance.
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ediekristen
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   Posted 5/5/2008 6:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I never would eat food left out overnight. Sometimes I cook something in a pot and after eating forget to put the rest in the fridge and it ends up sitting there overnight... And it never smells too good in the morning so I would never even think about eating it! Especially if it's something that spoils easier, like milk or cheese. I always keep leftovers but if they've been in the fridge for more than a few days I usually just toss it. Or it sits in my fridge forever but I won't eat it, haha.

On the defrosting note though, my mom always stuck frozen meat/chicken in the sink to defrost and I've done the same but usually I try to just stick it in the fridge a few days before. I think if it's frozen though, it's not going to go bad if you let it defrost at room temp because it's keeping itself cold enough; as long as you cook it once its thawed and don't let it sit there for days.
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love4cats
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   Posted 5/6/2008 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
My husband will eat anything, doesn't matter if it is meat left out all night and he has a gut of steal and is never sick (think he missed two days in the last 27 years of work for illness)!

I was pondering a question about the stats on UC and why it is not prevelant in third world countries. Could it be that we are eating such sterilized food, that our good bacteria in our gut is lacking and if we are genetically prone to this disease, then it wouldn't take much for a pathogen to set it off.
 
 
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love4cats
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   Posted 5/6/2008 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Wanted to add: animals have different digestive tracts than humans. Cats and Dog have very short ones, so bacteria doesn't have a chance to build up to make them sick. They also have different acidity levels, making it a bad environment for bacteria to thrive.
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 
Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


sore_guts
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   Posted 5/6/2008 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
It must be a man thing to eat leftovers that sat out all night.  My husband does the same thing.  He will eat anything that is out for less than 36 hours.  He even once ate a hoagie that sat in his car in the hot summer sun all day. Oh and he never has any stomach issues. 

 
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pb4
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   Posted 5/6/2008 5:34 PM (GMT -6)   
love4cats said...
Wanted to add: animals have different digestive tracts than humans. Cats and Dog have very short ones, so bacteria doesn't have a chance to build up to make them sick. They also have different acidity levels, making it a bad environment for bacteria to thrive.

Cats and dogs can also get inflammatory bowel disease.
 
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BigLucy
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   Posted 5/6/2008 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
A friend of mine was in the Peace Cor several years ago in South America--some remote village somewhere, no electricity, absolutely no modern appliances, no ice, etc. She lived in this village for four years and said food was left out for days without getting spoiled, you'd be surprise what you can eat and tolerate, it's very "Western" to have food refrigerated at all times. Anyway, that's what she told me.

pb4
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   Posted 5/6/2008 9:03 PM (GMT -6)   
The theory of CD possibly being caused (triggered) by refridgeration has been thrown around for many yrs...you just never know what the possibilities could be.

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love4cats
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   Posted 5/7/2008 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
pb4 said...
love4cats said...
Wanted to add: animals have different digestive tracts than humans. Cats and Dog have very short ones, so bacteria doesn't have a chance to build up to make them sick. They also have different acidity levels, making it a bad environment for bacteria to thrive.

Cats and dogs can also get inflammatory bowel disease.
 
:)
 

I am well aware of that, many are more food interances, than a true IBD, and do well on a raw diet, which is what their digestive systems are made for. 
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006
 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence.
 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped.
 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 
Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 

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