Questions about 3rd world diets

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Bigphule
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   Posted 5/28/2008 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I was reading something the other day that stated that people in industrialised countries, IE the US UK and other such places have a much higher percentage of people with UC than non-industrialized countries. 
 
Whats the difference?
 
I read that one possibility was due to our "clean" water.  The lack of bacteria and other organisims are actually hurting us. 
 
Maybe there is also a difference between our diet and thiers.  Has anyone ever tried to eat a "forgine" (for lack of a better word) diet?
Diagnosed UC 12/2007
 
 
Prednisone 15mg x 1/day ~ On going recent change 4/3/2008
 


Asia
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   Posted 5/28/2008 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, most of our diets consist of processed foods, gluten, dairy, sugar, salt--most of which are bad for you in large quantities. I think there are many reasons for UC and who knows maybe it is the poor food choices we have available that may cause it.

Generally when flaring people revert to a very simple diet of rice. Maybe simple foods are key. Anything that is grown. Fruits, veggies, whole grains, Nothing processed or created.
Diagnosed with UC in August 2005. 
Suffered for my whole life before being diagnosed. 
Told to "Eat more fibre." 
 
Currently on:

Salofalk 1500mg x 4/day
Entocort
6mg x 1/day
Entocort increased to:
9mg x 3/day as of 2.14.08


pb4
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   Posted 5/28/2008 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
They don't eat junk-food, processed foods and fast-foods like the western world does.

Wouldn't it be funny if eating crickets cured IBD and kept it at bay and is why those who eat that way have a low to zero prevalance for IBD, not to mention IBS, cancer, ect.

:)
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 5/28/2008 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
you know what is funny? It's not just 3rd World countries that have low to no IBD/IBS, it's the Scandinavians too! Researchers think it's due to the high amounts of fish in their diets. But, recently, on the CCFA page they published a study that showed Omega 3's to be ineffective against UC, so... who knows!

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade infusions
Imuran- 100mgs/day
Culturelle
 
 
 
 


summerstorm
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   Posted 5/28/2008 6:46 PM (GMT -6)   
this isn't all about UC, but there was study recently about the fact that asians have a lower occurnce of pretty much every health problem. So a group of women who were orignally from, i think vietnam or Laos, medical histories were followed, they looked at their health from when they lived in their home country, and then how they changed when they got here and it was amazing how quickly their health went down hill. Even with them eating the same basic things they were eating before, just the fact that the products here are made with all those chemicals and all the veggies and meats and stuff are treated i guess.
i thought that was really interesting and it really does make you wonder what we are doing to our bodies, even with our "healthy" foods.
i can see that the bacteria thing in the water might have something to do with it also, because if you aren't exposed to bacteria you won't build a tolerance for it. It's like when you use too much cleaners and stuff.

ucenigma
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   Posted 5/28/2008 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
 
You've brought up something that I've heard before, but you presented it in a new light.......
 
I don't know how long it would take, but if a "third-world" diet was to be created, it might help all of us in the long run...I've heard that people w/UC who have a bad flare and end up in the hospital are fed an "elemental" diet....fed through a tube w/base food (ie, protien, carbs, etc. that are pre-broken down..like when a momma bird feeds here babies).
 
Anyway, the lack of "high-fructose corn syrup", "caramel", yellow #5, etc. could help the body in it's healing process. 
 
I'll have to look into that....
 
scool  Keep on!
JD
Diagnosed with UC in 1997
Presently on Pred. and no options to do anything else....."in bed with Pred.." LOL!
 


Paul L
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   Posted 5/28/2008 8:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I read several report that suggested the reason for the differences is because of differences in health care. In third world countries patients are more likely to be undiagnosed. Even in first world countries it can be difficult to properly diagnose UC. I can imagine how difficult it would be in countries where most people can’t afford to see a doctor. When people from third word countries move to first world countries they have better access to good health care and are more likely to be properly diagnosed.
Paul
Diagnosed in 2000 at age 43 with UC extending half way across transverse colon.
Bad reaction to Asacol, Pentasa and Dipentum - can’t take any more 5ASAs.
Prednisone - worked well for 1 month, then side effects became unbearable.
6-MP - blood tests showed not metabolizing properly.
Corticosteroid enema, Flagyl, Ciprofloxin, VSL#3, Adacolumn Apheresis – no effect
Methotrexate with Remicade - 7 infusions with no improvement
Folic Acid and B12 injections.
Abatacept trial - no effect
 


Bigphule
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   Posted 5/28/2008 10:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Paul L may have a very valid point when it comes to a lack of diagnosis. I mean I was in the ER 3 times before they admitted me and then found out I had UC. So if that can happen in the US I feel bad for those who are suffering and have no clue whats going on simply because they cant get to a doctor.
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love4cats
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   Posted 5/29/2008 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
There are differences in occurences between 1st world countries too, I think Canada has the highest incidence of CD, not sure and even between provinces it varies greatly, NS being the hightest, BC being the lowest.
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence. 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped. 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 5/29/2008 12:41 PM (GMT -6)   

This is correct, for the longest time, Alberta had the highest incidence and I find it sooooooo odd that it's now Nova Scotia...there's definitely more to the prevalance of IBD besides where you live, so much more needs to be learned yet.

 

:)

love4cats said...
There are differences in occurences between 1st world countries too, I think Canada has the highest incidence of CD, not sure and even between provinces it varies greatly, NS being the hightest, BC being the lowest.


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