Enemas and hemmeroids - Ouch...help!

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Red_34
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   Posted 5/31/2008 4:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Last night was my third night back on the steroid enemas.  I know I have a hemmie now for sure because when I first inserted the enema, there was major resistance (or could that have been inflammation?) and alot of stinging.  So the next night, I try squeezing some of the liquid out before I insert but still the same thing happened.  Resistance and pain (just a little bit better).  The same last night except I used a bit of vaseline this time.  Will the steroid from the enema reduce the swelling in a hemmie?  Will it get less tender over time? Because boy does that hurt!  Can I use anything during the day to reduce the hemmie? I tried Prep H supps but they gave me bad cramps - is there anything else on the market?
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jujub
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   Posted 5/31/2008 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Try an ointment instead of a suppository. You don't have to use the applicator, you can just spread it on (and in) gently with your finger. If the OTC doesn't help, ask your doc about a lidocaine ointment to use for this. I know what you're going through; I had a huge hemmie that just gave me all kinds of trouble. It finally burst and drained, and then it was gone. Hurt like a mommy, but it was worth it to get rid of the thing.
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munchkindd
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   Posted 5/31/2008 6:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I've used preparataion H at times and also Tucks medicated pads. Hope you see some improvement. They sure can be a pain in the A--, can't they?
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diagnosed with uc 27 years ago.  Enojoyed 20 year remission with just minor blips here and there (approximately 16 of those years without any meds)
 
In a flare for 2 very long years which Asacol didn't help at all.  Finally in remission again since Jan 2008, can't believe it..............
 
currently on Sulfasalazine 2 tabs 3x day. Folic acid, mesalamine enema 2 x a week. Omega 3, Probiotics, multi vitamin, calcium supplement, Biotin....
 


quincy
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   Posted 5/31/2008 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Ouch!!! Proctocedyl (prescription) is awesome)...but maybe Anusol from the pharmacy?

You could dip the tip of the enema in that med, insert it and then squirt...just a suggestion for when using the med...then in the morning, use a blob of it inserted with your finger.

Up the fibre supplements if you can..(as you mentioned the effect of them on you)...a loose/watery stool will be better going through your poor inflamed butt than a formed one.

Oh, try a sitz bath in epsom salts maybe?

Hope it improves soon...but it'll take at least a week or more.

I feel for you!

quincy xx
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


hekela
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   Posted 5/31/2008 12:41 PM (GMT -7)   
hi sherry,
sorry that rotten thing is still bothering you.
i've never had much luck with any of the OTC or Rx stuff for hemmies. when i mentioned this to my GI he kind of laughed and said he agreed, that they didn't really do anything, and that they are really just to give us something to do. how do you like that?!

anyway, some of the Rx stuff i had did have steroids in it, so maybe your enema will soon help the hemmie.

it sounds like it's totally internal? if so, the sitz bath won't really help.
if it is external at all, sit on an ice pack. right now at the computer!!
for my external ones, ice packs are like magic when the creams do almost nothing.
hope you start feeling better all over very soon!
aloha
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-Prednisone 8/28/06-2/28/07. and again may '07, 8 week course.
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Red_34
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   Posted 5/31/2008 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone! Yes, it's internal. Maybe I will let the steroid do it's magic for a couple days and if by Monday it doesn't help, I will call my GI to see what he suggests - maybe some of the prescription strength stuff. One good added benefit of using steroid enemas - even though only a small portion actually gets into the blood stream, at least it is helping my back some. My upper back doesn't seem as sore since starting the steroid enemas. My hips and lower back feel better too but that may be because I'm treating the flare.
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quincy
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   Posted 5/31/2008 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Some improvement is good...let us know what the doc prescribes for you. You definitely need a break from this crapola..... yeah
q


*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


dakotagirl
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   Posted 5/31/2008 7:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Some of the low back and hip pain could be from your colon being inflammed. That was one of the worst symptoms for me in this last flare.

The hemmie rxs are usually steroids, so maybe if you dispense all but a little of the enema, then use the last bit in the rectum for your hemmie, it might decide to go away.

Hope you don't have to deal with this much longer!
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Beth75
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   Posted 6/1/2008 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sherry,
 
What finally helped my hemi's was a steriod suppository.  I got a prescription from my GI.  I think it was generic, unfortunatley I don't remember the name of it.   I also used the prep h creme too.  I would try putting the suppository in, in the am and doing the enema at night.
 
Those buggers are a pain!!!!
 
hope you can get rid of them soon!


Beth, 32 ~ small flare - hoping caused by aspirin - hydrocortisone e's
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07
UC dx'd 03/00 (Proctosigmoiditis); Pancolitis since 09/07
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Prilosec, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd 09/07 - partial remission since 03/08
Prednisone 5mg 1xday (tapered from 60 = ), Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Enalapril 20mg 1xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.  Do you have edema? If so, check your blood protien level!
 

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