fluoride and the bowel!

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damo123
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   Posted 6/22/2008 5:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone have problems with fluoride aggravating any of their bowel problems?
 
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Severin
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   Posted 6/22/2008 5:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Some research has suggested a link between Fluorosis and UC, though I can not find any substantial studies to cement this link as a "fact". Much of this "research" was done back in 1985 and not updated since.

It is however possible. Fluoride is highly toxic, more so then Lead I believe and the one thing the western world has that many other countries do not is Fluoridated water, toothpaste, "fortified" foods, vitamin pills. The list goes on.

It may well be possible that we are poisoning ourselves with Fluoride?

If however this is true, I doubt it will come out. Can you imagine the class action law suits just WAITING to happen?
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njguy69
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   Posted 6/22/2008 7:00 AM (GMT -6)   
http://fluoridealert.org/
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   Posted 6/22/2008 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm scared of flouride now. Why the heck are they putting it in our water if it's more poisonous than lead?
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njguy69
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   Posted 6/22/2008 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Sara14 said...
I'm scared of flouride now. Why the heck are they putting it in our water if it's more poisonous than lead?


The Flouride debacle goes pretty deep, I just don't want to appear I'm hijacking this thread, but to answer your question as briefly as possible. The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany`s **** prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride`s supposed effect on children`s teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.) When the ****s under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...This is all just in a nutshell. It's a long, long sick hidden story in which is still going on for those same reasons.

Here's something else I found...

http://www.emagazine.com/view/?118
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Post Edited (xtremefit) : 6/22/2008 11:26:04 AM (GMT-6)


Mackster
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   Posted 6/23/2008 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   

I guess that must be why the ****s seemed to have nice teeth.

FWIW I don't think the British fluoridate their water, hence an apparent high tooth-decay problem.


princesa
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   Posted 6/23/2008 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Toothpastes may also contain harmful titanium dioxide or carrageenan. Read labels carefully or try a natural toothpaste.
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ediekristen
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   Posted 6/23/2008 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Yikes! I wonder, do most bottled waters have flouride as well or is it just the tap? I never ever drink tap water because here in Florida the tap water tastes TERRIBLE. But obviously I do use it to cook and shower and brush my teeth. I also give it to my dog.

Does anyone know if the water filters, like the Brita ones, take flouride out of water??
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njguy69
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   Posted 6/23/2008 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
ediekristen said...
Yikes! I wonder, do most bottled waters have flouride as well or is it just the tap? I never ever drink tap water because here in Florida the tap water tastes TERRIBLE. But obviously I do use it to cook and shower and brush my teeth. I also give it to my dog.

Does anyone know if the water filters, like the Brita ones, take flouride out of water??


Your bottled water isn't better! The only requirement they have is to be the same quality as your tap. The Brita's are better than nothing, but the Berkey water filters are the best on the market. (only available online)If you scroll to the bottom, you'll see the filters that also virtually eliminate Flouride and other toxins. They also have them for your shower.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=store&sec=water
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Post Edited (xtremefit) : 6/23/2008 2:39:14 PM (GMT-6)


LR2112
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   Posted 6/25/2008 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works." tongue

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JerryGarcia
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   Posted 6/25/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know why the American's have the impression that British people all have bad teeth, it's all myth and probably comes from old images of the royal family (who's poor teeth could perhaps be down to an inner circle of breeding).

We do add fluoride to the water in some parts of the country, but there are a lot of negatives associated with it.
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tooth fairy
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   Posted 6/25/2008 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is a different view from the american dental association about fluoride:
http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/facts/fluoridation_facts.pdf

There is an optimal quantity of fluoride for every patient and your dentist can help you determine what dose is right for you. Community water is fluoridated in the range of 0.3 ppm to 1.0 ppm's. It is when your ingested fluoride exposure is over 2 or 3 ppm's (double and triple the typical community dosing) that you can find a weak association w/ some detrimental effects. The "fluoride" in the WWII example is not stannous fluoride, it is a different compound entirely...just like rubbing alcohol and drinking alcohol are not the same, though they are both "alcohol.")

I can attest that when dispensed properly, fluoride can reverse tooth decay and strengthen tooth enamel.

Please don't be frightened of fluoride. The best thing you can do is make sure your fluoride levels are in the optimal range by evaluating your need and your total fluoride intake with your dentist.

In many states, you can get a fluoride test kit from your dentist for free (WV does this) to see what your home levels are.

Fluoride really does prevent tooth decay. It also can reverse tooth decay when applied properly. I for one have not seen a good scientific study to show fluoride is dangerous, particularly when dispensed at the proper dosage. The slight association w/ osteosarcoma in pre-teen boys out of Harvard is the only good study I've seen to show a link to anything detrimental, and in that case the sick kids were receiving between 3 and 5 ppm's of fluoride, more than 3 times the optimal dose.
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princesa
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   Posted 6/26/2008 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
IMHO, the best of both worlds is to drink water without fluoride, but use a fluoride rinse - if you need it - to strengthen your teeth. That way, you can get the benefits of fluoride without having to ingest it - or at least you won't be ingesting much of it.
 
Oddly enough, I was just sent a link to a fluoride article:
 


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Post Edited (princesa) : 6/26/2008 8:40:39 AM (GMT-6)

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