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PeanutMom
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   Posted 6/27/2008 9:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I need some help here, I normally have very low blood sugar and when I eat actual sugar or things made from sugar my body kicks into over drive and my sugar drops even lower. My average blood sugar is about 50-75 or 80 which I know is way on the low end of normal (70-150) so I avoid sugar as much as I can so here's my dilemma......

I can't drink unsweetened tea hot or cold I just can't stand it so I have been using Splenda and keeping my blood sugar in a normal for me range. In my research I have found artificial sweeteners can irritate UC and since they tell me I'm in remission but I still have irritation and frequent loose BM (no mucus or blood) I'm wondering if the Splenda may be irritating me.

Does anyone know of any natural sweeteners that won't kick off blood sugar that I could try? I'm using different herbal teas to make the taste sweeter so that we're only using about 1/4 of a cup of the baking splenda per gallon of tea but I'd like to find a way to substitute that out and see if the UC calms down anymore. (it did calm some when I switched to decaffeinated tea.)

Tips would be great! Thanks!
Kim ~ Mom of Nathaniel aka "Peanut" 18months old
========================
I'm a married 36 yr old mom and here's "The list "
- UC 1997 currently unmedicated was on Colozal from 2001-2007
- Stage 3 CKD (Chronic Kidney Disease) 2007 taking 7.5mg lisinopril
- Anemic - Ferolicit IV bi-weekly
- Ashermans Syndrome - no treatment
- Allergies - water - haven't been tested officially but pine suspected


bellski
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   Posted 6/27/2008 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I have read that splenda bothers some uc-ers. I recently bought Stevia packets from GNC. I heard about Stevia from this site. It is a no calerie sweetener, that is a supplement that comes from a plant. It was $9.99 for 100 packets. I was a big splenda user and although it didn't bother me, I thought I should make the healthier choice. Try to google Stevia and read more about it. I don't know what it does t blood sugar/ Hope this helps, Bellski
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Dr-A
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   Posted 6/27/2008 10:33 AM (GMT -7)   
I buy agave nectar by the case off amazon. Low on the glycemic index, bakes good, and mixes better than honey.

I use stevia second to it. I purchase sweetleaf in the green box, individual packets from Kroger's.

I steer clear of the artificial sweeteners. aspartame, splenda
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Post Edited (D_A) : 6/27/2008 11:39:25 AM (GMT-6)


pb4
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   Posted 6/27/2008 10:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Stevia, a tiny tiny bit goes a looooooooong way.

:)
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LilyPirker
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   Posted 6/27/2008 11:29 AM (GMT -7)   
What about brown rice syrup? I bought that as a sweetener and it's pretty good....like honey....

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PeanutMom
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   Posted 6/27/2008 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks I'll see if I can find anywhere around here I can pick those up.
Kim ~ Mom of Nathaniel aka "Peanut" 18months old
========================
I'm a married 36 yr old mom and here's "The list "
- UC 1997 currently unmedicated was on Colozal from 2001-2007
- Stage 3 CKD (Chronic Kidney Disease) 2007 taking 7.5mg lisinopril
- Anemic - Ferolicit IV bi-weekly
- Ashermans Syndrome - no treatment
- Allergies - water - haven't been tested officially but pine suspected


Kiss520
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   Posted 6/27/2008 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I have never liked sugar substitutes, but after diagnosis I tried Stevia to replaced refined sugar.  It really is very close to tasting like sugar. 

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dakotagirl
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   Posted 6/27/2008 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Stevia does not effect blood sugar - good for diabetics. It's pretty easy to find now. Good luck!
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pb4
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   Posted 6/27/2008 11:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Stevia has the exact same sweetness of sugar and can be anywhere from 200-400 times sweeter than sugar which is why just a touch of it on the tip of a tsp goes a very long way...even coca-cola is waiting for a patent to go through for a form of Stevia to be used in their beverage, although I still won't drink it because the carbonation of soda can do a number on the bones not to mention the intestinal gas issues it can cause, but it's good they're finally looking for a healthy alternative for a sweetner, I hope the rest of the industry follows suite, then there won't be so many health problems out there for so many people if they get rid of sugar and use Stevia instead.

:)


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winni
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   Posted 6/28/2008 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I always heard that artificial sweetners were worse on uc than actual sugar, is that not the case with stevia?
Thanks!
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Kiss520
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   Posted 6/28/2008 1:51 PM (GMT -7)   
All I know about Stevia is that its natural - its extracted from the leaf of an herb found in Paraguay.
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Dr-A
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   Posted 6/28/2008 2:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Some versions of stevia are better than others, but I don't considered an artificial sweetener. It comes from a bush unlike a lab. I consider it like the agave nectar/honey/rice brown syrup categories. The first kind I bought sucked horribly, so be aware not all stevia products are the same. It will soon be in some soft drinks too, not that it makes them any better for you, lol.
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bbc
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   Posted 6/28/2008 11:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Any kind of artificial sweetner gaives me major gas and always has even a kid and without UC.

birdiem
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   Posted 6/29/2008 3:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I used to be a huge splenda consumer--and i can't say enough about stopping!! i use stevia and i also know that xylitol is a great natural sweetener. it is a sugar alcohol but it doesn't have the same effects on the digestive system as malitol, etc. hope that helps!
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diagnosed with cecal volvulus, 2006; two colon resections in the same year; diagnosed with colitis 2007; malrotated colon; no cecal valve, removed during surgery; gastritis emptying; Forvia; Compazine; 2 TSP of apple cider vinegar before meals (weird, but so far I am a believer in it).

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pb4
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   Posted 6/29/2008 11:01 AM (GMT -7)   
birdiem said...
I  also know that xylitol is a great natural sweetener. it is a sugar alcohol but it doesn't have the same effects on the digestive system as malitol, etc. hope that helps!

Where did you hear that xylitol doesn't have the same affect on the digestive system as malitol?  From my informative understanding ALL sugar alcohols do have the same effect with a high chance of causing intestinal issues being gas, bloating and even D...it's better to be safe than sorry and avoid all sugar alcohols, anything ending in "tol".
 
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birdiem
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   Posted 6/29/2008 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
A nurse practitioner mentioned it. She suggested moderate use, of course, but felt that the others were worse. I only consume xylitol when i chew gum, so I am not sure about the effects of excessive consumption. I would be very interested to know if anyone has heard otherwise.
katie; 23
diagnosed with cecal volvulus, 2006; two colon resections in the same year; diagnosed with colitis 2007; malrotated colon; no cecal valve, removed during surgery; gastritis emptying; Forvia; Compazine; 2 TSP of apple cider vinegar before meals (weird, but so far I am a believer in it).

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pb4
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   Posted 6/29/2008 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
In my Chatelaine magazine there's a whole write up about artificial sweetners and it mentions sugar alcohols and that as little as 1/2 a stick of Extra gum can bring on D, gas and bloating, it's considered safe with the above mentioned side effects.

:)
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quincy
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   Posted 6/29/2008 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I heard the same birdiem...that's why I've consciously chosen to chew a gum (Spry) with only Xylitol instead of all the sugar alcohols as does Extra and the others on the market. There is nothing else out there....and it doesn't bother me as would a piece of gum with aspartame.

Not all are created equal. I think it would depend on the actual action of the sweetener itself as to side effects...

Honey, albeit natural, has laxative qualities..so for some, it can be a problem.

I use sugar as a sweetener or honey....at least my body knows what to do with it...it's still the safest product.
 
Stevia isn't without its concerns either.
 
Agave syrup...seems to be very safe...time will tell.

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!

Post Edited (quincy) : 6/29/2008 1:29:04 PM (GMT-6)


pb4
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   Posted 6/29/2008 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Sugar is not safe nor is it good for you, Stevia does not cause decay or inflammation as sugar does (among many other issues)...honey is great but it also has it's downside which is why children under the age of 2 should not be consuming it, of the 3 it's pretty clear that Stevia would be the best bet.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


quincy
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   Posted 6/30/2008 12:45 AM (GMT -7)   
sugar is still safe...but it is refined..yes. The problem is that many tend to consume too much of it. It's also in most processed foods.

The use of honey for children/babies (under age one I believed it to be) should be totally avoided because their digestive tract cannot handle the bacteria that's naturally occurring in it and can become toxic to them..


I don't believe that manufacturing foodstuff with stevia instead of sugar will be without any major/serious health problems incurred by consumers. Time will tell.
 
pb4...Sending happy faces and awesome weather wishes your way......supposed to be 31 today with possible rain..ugh!

q


*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!

Post Edited (quincy) : 6/30/2008 2:42:08 AM (GMT-6)


PeanutMom
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   Posted 6/30/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Sugar is my enemy, they tell me that with my sugar so low there's a good chance that I'll end up a diabetic because my body will burn itself out over producing now . . . oh the joy of health complications.

I'm looking around for the alternatives you have suggested and will let you know what I find. Heath food stores are few and far between around here and the public market is well "general" to say the best.

I really don't have a sweet tooth so I don't know why I can't just drink tea plain with no sweet in it but alas I find myself dehydrating if I don't have the sweet because I don't drink enough. In this I know I am my own worst enemy. I gave up alot of foods when I was whittling out my US source pains this is just one I haven't been able to root out completely. . . we all have our vices don't we?
Kim ~ Mom of Nathaniel aka "Peanut" 18months old
========================
I'm a married 36 yr old mom and here's "The list "
- UC 1997 currently unmedicated was on Colozal from 2001-2007
- Stage 3 CKD (Chronic Kidney Disease) 2007 taking 7.5mg lisinopril
- Anemic - Ferolicit IV bi-weekly
- Ashermans Syndrome - no treatment
- Allergies - water - haven't been tested officially but pine suspected


pb4
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   Posted 6/30/2008 3:34 PM (GMT -7)   
quincy said...
sugar is still safe...but it is refined..yes. The problem is that many tend to consume too much of it. It's also in most processed foods.

The use of honey for children/babies (under age one I believed it to be) should be totally avoided because their digestive tract cannot handle the bacteria that's naturally occurring in it and can become toxic to them..


I don't believe that manufacturing foodstuff with stevia instead of sugar will be without any major/serious health problems incurred by consumers. Time will tell.
 
pb4...Sending happy faces and awesome weather wishes your way......supposed to be 31 today with possible rain..ugh!

q

Lot's of smilies towards your way too Q, and we're suppose to have the same weather today as you, it's been very hot but cloud is comming in I imagine from all the wind we've had today...heard on the news you guys in winnipeg had some tornados, was your area affected at all?
 
And agreed, people tend to over-do the refined sugar which is what causes the problems, but Stevia has been around for some time and put under the microscope again and again, I think it's a much safer alternative to sugar, plus no calories (from my understanding at least, or at best hardly any calories) and the decay thing is also the beauty of it plus it's perfect for diabetics (my bro loves it).
 
:-)   :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) for you Q!



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quincy
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   Posted 6/30/2008 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Peanutmom....have you looked into fructose? Would that be an option for you? SEems there are lots of options...just have to make sure it's not one that could cause you problems. Xylitol does come from sugar and/or corn...it's still got calories, but is very low on the glycemic index. It is the least gut offending of the "itol" type of sweeteners.




:-)   :-) :-) tongue :-) :-)   pb4....Stevia. I hear not all is created equally...like everything that comes into demand, I'm suspecting there will be problems coming to light with it eventually. But hey, remember all the testing that was done with Aspartame and Splenda...nothing wrong with either of them them according to their reports....bwahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!! eyes
 

No tornadoes in Winnipeg, but it seems there were a few potentials considering the storm was developing right over the city...ugh, had the worst day on Friday feeling totally drained and pretty much slept through it all. I guess my stars weren't aligned properly.lol!

Keep your hat on tight!! smurf
 
q


*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


PeanutMom
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   Posted 7/1/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
no haven't tried the fructose I thought that was like concentrated fruit sugars. Here's the thing, when I was pregnant I was going for the gestational diabetes test and because of my sugar issues I got sick on that syrup they gave me because it bottomed me out so bad, the lowest the meter reads is 40 and they couldn't get a reading on me. I retested with just grape and orange juice a week later and should have tested in the 120-150 because I ate just before the test too. I tested at 72. So even fruit juice is touchy with my sugar.

I know there are insulin inhibitors out there that you can take to keep your sugars in the normal range but I'm trying really hard not to take in any more meds I don't have to if it's something I can regulate in other ways. I really do hate taking pills. That's why I'm trying to figure this sugar thing out so I don't get too bad off. I wish they would send me to a nutritionist but none of my docs seem to thing I need it. I get so confused with whether I should be on high fiber or low fiber . . .no carbs or some ok carbs . . . .boiled or fresh veggies. . . . fruits or no fruits. . . .it gets overwhelming so fast. I try to stick to the few little things I eat now and not venture too far away eating only little bits of each thing at a time so if I do react it's small . . . .but I get bored with the same things day in and day out.
Kim ~ Mom of Nathaniel aka "Peanut" 18months old
========================
I'm a married 36 yr old mom and here's "The list "
- UC 1997 currently unmedicated was on Colozal from 2001-2007
- Stage 3 CKD (Chronic Kidney Disease) 2007 taking 7.5mg lisinopril
- Anemic - Ferolicit IV bi-weekly
- Ashermans Syndrome - no treatment
- Allergies - water - haven't been tested officially but pine suspected


Sara14
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   Posted 7/1/2008 8:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Can you have honey? Even if your docs don't think you need it, can you request that you would really like to see a nutritionist? I think that would be a good idea and may be really helpful and help to ease some of your stress over figuring out what's safe to eat.
24 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into complete remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - nightly; Canasa (1,000 mg) in the morning
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 2/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv

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