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   Posted 7/15/2008 5:41 AM (GMT -6)   
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sore_guts
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   Posted 7/15/2008 6:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I am only eating spinach 3 or 4 times a week.  I eat frozen, cooked and probably about 2 servings at a time.  Slighty smaller than the size of a baseball on my plate.  What I found for me personally was any more than that caused me loose stools so I researched other foods high in magnesuim.  Like CfromUt suggested I am also eating sunflower seeds every day or every other day.  Other foods high in mag I've added to my diet on occasion are halibut when I can find it and black beans.  Also swiss chard is good, but harder to find.  There are others as well.

 
sore_guts
 
36 year old female with left-sided UC
lialda 1 pill  3 times/day
Rowasa enemas on occasion
iron supplements 1/day
multi-vitamin 1/day
Digestive Advantage Colitis formula 1/day
 
 


mbx5
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   Posted 7/15/2008 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I eat spinach every night with dinner...probably 1/2 of a frozen brick... I have noticed less mucous... Sometimes my body just doesnt like it and I get green "D".....sometimes not. Sunflower seeds can cause a little looser stool for me too... I would say that the spinach helps more than it hurts....but it hasnt been a "cureall" - good thing is that I love spinach...
33 yr old male. UC for 14 years. 5mg pred (tapering off), 12 pills Asacol per day, Dicyclomine (for cramps), 0.5 - 1mg Atavan per day (anxiety) when needed, Fish oil pills, Culturelle probiotics. Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland (And I am still more afraid of my UC!!)  "I poop in the woods because I can"


JerryGarcia
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   Posted 7/16/2008 4:45 AM (GMT -6)   
So how about taking magnesium supplements? Would that not do the same thing?
DX with UC Jan 07
Currently taking Colazide (allergic to Asacol and Pentasa) 2 a day
Also taking VSL3 X3 a day
Just started LDN 4.5mg


sore_guts
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   Posted 7/16/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I read somewhere that the body does not absorb magnesuim well from supplements.  That it is absorbed much better from foods.  I'll try to find the link
 
sore_guts
 
36 year old female with left-sided UC
lialda 1 pill  3 times/day
Rowasa enemas on occasion
iron supplements 1/day
multi-vitamin 1/day
Digestive Advantage Colitis formula 1/day
 
 


UCmomto2
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   Posted 7/16/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I havent posted on this website in a long time (thanks to remission), but do check in from time to time. 
 
I think it is awesome to share something like this if it worked for you.  I know I will try to incorporate more of it into my diet and I appreciate the OP coming to share his experience.  I am off my Imuran as of recently in preparation to breastfeed and I am experiencing very very mild sxs.....so we'll see if this helps clear me up!  I am also going to start something else...a vitamin/mineral drink, so I will share more about that later if it works. 
 
Anyway, thanks for posting this...so very interesting!


Jessica, 31 year old mommy to 2 beautiful boys and one on the way!
 
100 mg. Imuran, 8 asacol/day, omega 3's, probiotics, zoloft, fiber


AshNH
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   Posted 7/16/2008 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
coincidentally, I got into my remission by following anti-fungal diet. basically, only vegetables, eggs, coconut water, olive leaf extracts, pita wraps, quinos(sp?) for grain. One thing I ate a lot of was baby spinach..inside my omelette or as part of a baby spinach salad with olive oil.
Ash 39 NH, vegetarian

Not taking much of anything after trying anti-fungal diet.

Previous meds: Asacol 12/day, Imuran 150mg
L-glutamine, Coconut Water, Rowasa(as needed)


pcl7757
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   Posted 7/16/2008 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok day 3 on spinach and my D is down to nothing. Stool is a bit more firm and I feel a lot better. I think I feel a bit more confident as well. I drove right by my usual bathroom stops today.

MamaDove
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   Posted 7/17/2008 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   

 

During this past week, I have been 'putting things together' in my case of 15 years of being ill, unable to take meds for my conditions due to severe reactions and need to find what the real cause of my problems are so I can rectify them as naturally as possible...

Lastnite my mind began to race with much of the info I gained online...I also just found out that my D and K levels are low, both will lead to inflammation which is the 'cause' of ALL of my conditions...Having then researched how to get more K in my diet, I came across SPINACH...

Vitamin K deficiencies symptoms of GI bleeds, nosebleeds, etc. really got my attention...

I then recalled the thread on here about eating Spinach and thought that the increase in K is likely the beneficial factor in helping IBD...

FOOD FOR THOUGHT and for good health...

Going to run this by new PCP today...He gave me a sample for Lialda recently and apparently didn't heed the warning in my chart which said 'severe adverse reaction to Asacol'...I need to set him straight, educate him to the facts that low vitamin levels are certainly something to look into before making a diagnosis and prescribing what could be a potentially dangerous drug for the patient...

May this year bring us REAL answers and not just more expert 'opinions' that keep us sick...

I am going with this lead and increasing these vitamins along with beneficial bacteria and lower fat (fat malabsorption is a likley problem for all of us)...These illnesses need to be looked at with more common sense to find the answers for each of us...

Peace~MamaDove


dudewhrsmybike
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   Posted 7/18/2008 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I read the orig thread in early June and tried the spinach. . . NO WAY! BLEH!

SOOOOO I then started eating the sunflower seeds. Guess what? As of July 7th I been feeling good and have 80-100% solid BM's and usually only one a day! !

I will continue to eat the seeds, I'm consuming about 7oz a day. Try it! What have you got to lose?

Also like to add that I get the salty seeds. YUM YUM! The organic seeds taste like crap IMO.

I'll peek my head in here every so often if anything changes.


HUGE thanks to CfromUtah!
 
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I still have a bit of smelly odor but it's better than farting and getting a surprise in your pants! !

Post Edited (dudewhrsmybike) : 7/18/2008 3:26:39 PM (GMT-6)


DanthaMan
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   Posted 7/18/2008 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I wonder if juicing spinach will yeild the same results. It seems everytime I eat spinach, I have worse bm's. They are more frequent, and more rushed. Plus the bm's are green!

I am going to juice cabbage and spinach twice a day, and see what happens.

Cfromutah
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   Posted 7/18/2008 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I am glad its helping some of you and glad to know its not just me that it helps! I continue to eat spinach 
periodically and eat sunflower seeds almost daily and eat other foods high in magnesium often and have been in remission for over 2 years so I know it works and I am 100% medication free. And to those that have said thanks, you are very welcome, glad I could help! I know what a nightmare this disease can be

Post Edited (Cfromutah) : 7/19/2008 6:05:31 PM (GMT-6)


Squattie
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   Posted 7/19/2008 6:56 AM (GMT -6)   
My spinach story:

First of all I'm not on any meds. I was diagnosed with moderately severe crohn's. I don't do meds well and went off my Asacol a while back. I pretty much control my crohns with diet...as best I can...although not on any specific diet like SCD or Maker's.

I met a nice fella and decided to try and live like a "normal" person for a week. In other words my diet went down the tubes...literally. Within a week I had eaten barbecue ribs, coleslaw, barbecue chicken, canned beans in sugar syrup, potato salad with lots of gloppy mayonnaise, lemon cake, chocolate clusters, a cheeseburger with bacon and the works....and a Dairy Queen peanut buster parfait...which I haven't had in a hunnerd years.

Needless to say I threw my whole system off. Last Sat night I came down with the screaming runs. Sunday I had the same. Monday I had the same. Tuesday I had the same. Wednesday I had the same. Thursday I had the same. I thought I was going to have to head for ER, as my enzymes, probiotics (which I doubled up on) and other supplements didn't do anything to help. Thursday night (in a last ditch effort for help) I made a salad with raw spinach, olive oil and threw a handful of raw sunflower seeds on top. I ate it with some chicken/rice soup/stew. Friday morning I had one bowel movement that was terribly loose. However, that was the end of it. I didn't go the rest of the day, and didn't go until this morning (Sat) and when I did it was a normal bm.

Coincidence? I don't think so. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
.....Squattie


njguy69
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   Posted 7/19/2008 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I've never seen anything like this, and it's something you dream about. I always knew there was something out there, I never lost hope. The thing is I always knew it would come from the private sector, not big Pharma. GOOD WORK CFROMUTAH!!

yeah

BTW, I HATE ME SPINACH.....BLAH!! LOL
Asacol - four a day
6 MP - 1 tab. a day
Remicade - every eight weeks.

Post Edited (xtremefit) : 7/19/2008 8:59:11 AM (GMT-6)


Squattie
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   Posted 7/19/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Spinach is best if you can eat it raw. Cooked spinach creates a distorted form of oxalic acid...which, if you eat a lot of it, can be detrimental to the kidneys and create kidney stones. But oxalic, in it's natural, raw form is okay. Just something I came across a while ago in looking up "green stuff." I think I saw it in a juicing book.
.....Squattie


potato
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   Posted 7/19/2008 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
For those of you who eat canned spinach, do you eat a whole can everyday?  If not, how much do you eat? 
 
The days I've tried it, not a whole can, but a couple of helpings, it hasn't helped.  I just get dark loose bms.  But I haven't eaten it everyday or eaten any sunflower seeds either.
 
 
Potato...  Female, 58, dx mild left sided ulcerative colitis 11/07
asacol 3 3x a day   asacol 2 3Xday
rowasa tapering to 2 x week
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Cfromutah
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   Posted 7/19/2008 6:25 PM (GMT -6)   
JerryGarcia, I tried magnesium suppliments for a while before I discovered the spinach and sunflower seeds thing and the magnesium suppliments did not put me into remission.

Post Edited (Cfromutah) : 7/20/2008 1:57:15 PM (GMT-6)


sore_guts
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   Posted 7/22/2008 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
For those having trouble with spinach causing loose stools or just not liking spinach, but want to try this - there are other foods high in magnesium.  Other foods to try to incorporate into your diet include - sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, black beans, halibut, swiss chard (try cooking with garlic to flavor it), articokes, barley, almonds, white beans.  I think if you try to get a lot of those it works just as well as having tons of spinach.  It is definetly still working for me. 

 
sore_guts
 
36 year old female with left-sided UC
lialda 1 pill  3 times/day
Rowasa enemas on occasion
iron supplements 1/day
multi-vitamin 1/day
Digestive Advantage Colitis formula 1/day
 
 


Supa
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   Posted 7/22/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I have a question for all of you who have been doing this-will baby spinach help or does it have to be mature spinach?

I eat a big salad for lunch pretty much everyday, and I would gladly switch my greens from romaine to baby spinach! Topped with black beans and sunflower seeds-sounds pretty good to me!!
Laura
 
33 years old
 
Diagnosed in 2007
Currently on prednisone 15mg/day and tapering, Asacol 6pills/day and biweekly injections for Humira clinical trial


dudewhrsmybike
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   Posted 7/22/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
xtremefit said...
I've never seen anything like this, and it's something you dream about. I always knew there was something out there, I never lost hope. The thing is I always knew it would come from the private sector, not big Pharma. GOOD WORK CFROMUTAH!!

yeah

BTW, I HATE ME SPINACH.....BLAH!! LOL

+1!!!!!!!!
 
That is exactly why I joined this site.  I wanted to heal myself naturally and not depend on meds. and I KNEW I JUST KNEW that there was something that I could eat that would help me out! !
 
I'm glad I ran across the suggestions that CFROMUTAH set forth and I'm even happier to see that its been working for me!!!! 
 
I am only 20 years old and I must say its good to have my normal life back since this all started in Oct 2006.

Post Edited (dudewhrsmybike) : 7/22/2008 11:44:12 AM (GMT-6)


DanthaMan
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   Posted 7/22/2008 2:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone tried juicing spinach yet? I might do like sore guts said and try something else with a lot of magnesium. However, there are alot of other vitamins in spinach, like vitamin K. Wouldn't it be hard to say its the magnesium alone?

blackcrowe
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Cfromutah, is baby spinach ok or does it have to be regular spinach?
 
 
 


love4cats
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   Posted 7/23/2008 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, baby spinach is suppose to be high in magnesium.

I was reading an article about asthma and apparently astmatics have low magnesium levels.

http://www.asthmaworld.org/table_of_contents.htm
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence. 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped. 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


Cfromutah
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   Posted 7/23/2008 7:09 PM (GMT -6)   
blackcrowe, I think baby spinach is just fine. But canned spinach is more concentrated so you would have to eat quite a bit of fresh baby spinach to get the same amount of magnesium etc that is in one can of spinach. If the spinach(or any other green leafy vegetable ) is green it has magnesium in it because the center of the chlorophyll molecule is made of magnesium and the chlorophyll molecule is the source of magnesium in green leafy vegtables so the greener the better and as far as I know baby spinach is just as green as regular spinach.

Post Edited (Cfromutah) : 7/23/2008 7:22:10 PM (GMT-6)


Cfromutah
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   Posted 8/31/2008 9:34 AM (GMT -6)   
you guys really need to try eating foods high in magnesuim and beta carotene because it has put me in remission and I know of two other people on this forum that it has also. sunflower seeds have a lot of magnesium and pumpkin seeds are absolutely loaded with it, pumpkin seeds have more magnesium than any other food. also spinach is high in both magnesium and beta carotene. as i previously said, canned spinach is good because its very concentrated so you get a lot of magnesium and beta carotene, but make sure you eat lots of seeds and nuts also because ounce per ounce they have even more magnesium. if these foods have put me in remission and two others on this forum why would it not work for many others? it will work for many others so you guys need to give it a chance. most nuts and seeds are very high in magnesium so eat them up like a mad man, or woman:) and I know if you stick with eating them it will help many many of you, and even put you in remission. remember to give it a fair chance to work though, possibly a couple months. I know that someone on this board tried it for a week and a half and said, well this diet dont work for me, lets move on to the next thing. not a smart thing to do because I know for a fact this diet works if you give it a chance.
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