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   Posted 7/16/2008 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   

Wondering if anyone have had seen this article in the following link- took place in Germany :


the results are impressive form what I understand, this magazine doesn’t publish any B.S articles, so I went to health food store and bought a bunch of phosphatidylcholine soft jell capsules ,(they only come in 500-1200mg soft jell capsules), in article it say 6grams a daily dose !! so I start taking 5 pills every day.  I printed the article and showed it my GI, he was flabbergasted because he knew it was highly respected report/ Unv.


He told me the trick to make this work is only by releasing the 6grams of phosphatidylcholine in your colon!!, soft jell capsules won’t do it!!  Then he directed me to a compounded pharmacy to prepare it for me, next week they will have it ready J


 I emailed the main Dr. who is involved in the experiment  ( to ask him where I can get this pills/treatment or if there is anything like it available in the U.S,  but to my chagrin he never replied L . so is there any people here, in this forum, for Germany ?and if they can get it or contact the soures !! please let us know .because they are trying to patent this supplement in the U.S


This one from Italy:-


The other supplement ,my brother is an M.D,  told me about,  it  is Zacol NMX .It is a probiotics that only disolve in the colon, for max benefits, it has the MMX technology that Lialda has,, please surf around this link and lemme know what you think!

I Remember at one website it says there is 10-100 trillion of bacteria in our gut!! And you need at least 500-1000 billion/daily of probiotic to achieve excellent results.


I called the number on the website and the person at the other end could barely speaks English but she took my email address to email me some info about price, shipping ..etc , that was 3 days ago never heard anything form them, I emailed 'em as well with Italian text ( using Google translator) never heard either :(


SO, is there anyone form Italy in this forum? or had anyone tried, heard, ...or so!?


Thanks for reading and sorry for the bad writing as English is not me 1st language J


What do you think? Please I would love to see your input.


Best heath to you all.

Post Edited (UC-Defeater) : 7/16/2008 7:49:55 PM (GMT-6)

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Date Joined May 2005
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   Posted 7/16/2008 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the post. This has been posted before and discussed. Hopefully you will have better luck, as I did the same thing taking it to a compounding pharmacy, and didn't have positive results.

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   Posted 7/16/2008 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is an email from him from two years ago:

Retarded phosphatidylcholine is a yet still not approved drug and therefore only available as study medication.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Daniel
Gesendet: Samstag, 10. Juni 2006 01:44
An: Stremmel, Wolfgang
Betreff: NCT00259571, PC4: EC - L389/2003- Retarded Phosphatidylcholine Versus Mesalazin in Remission of Ulcerative Colitis.

Hi, Where can I find retarded Phosphatidylcholine. I have looked all over the internet and I cannot find any. I have ulcerative colitis and would desperately like to try this.



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   Posted 7/16/2008 10:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting results, but hardly conclusive. A study in 19 subjects is too small to draw any conclusions; it merely means further study is needed.
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