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Kiss520
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   Posted 7/28/2008 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Just trying to gather some info on fasting and internal cleanses.  Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with either one of these?  Stories or success and failure both welcome.  Thanks!
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed).
Diet/Exercise:  Trying sunflower seed thing.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Showing improvement after a few days with sunflower seeds.
 
 


tjf
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   Posted 7/28/2008 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I think an internal cleanse would wash out the good bacteria as well as the bad. I know we typically warn against colonics for that reason.
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JRob
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   Posted 7/28/2008 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I did a lot of reading online about juice fasting about five weeks ago when I was in the peak of this flare I am currently getting over (hopefully) and was feeling very desperate. I found some articles that sounded like total cons, "Cure colitis naturally! Click here to pay $19.95 for my pamphlet to find out how." Some that sounded more authoritative but still required you to buy a book. I found this article to be interesting and more instructive (http://www.doctoryourself.com/colitis.html) but the length of the fast it recommends is a little scary. There's even a couple of videos on Youtube by a guy who seems very sincere that vegetable juicing has helped him. So I did go out and buy a juicer and tried adding 8 oz. of juice to my diet twice a day. I don't eat nearly enough vegetables anyway so I thought it was worth a try to at least drink something healthy. Did it help? Some. I noticed less bleeding, urgency, and frequency (6-8 times/day down from 8-10). BM's were also very loose, which I guess is part of the "cleansing" process, but colazol was doing the same thing to me. But mostly I just felt generally better, energy wise. I told my GI about it. He nodded, got out his Rx pad and wrote me a prescription for prednisone and lialda. Things were much better much quicker after that. I still might try the real fast someday but I want to give the meds a chance first.
Ulcerative Proctitis - October 05 diagnosed
Currently- bad flare since March 08 but improving

Current Meds that are working
lialda - 2 pills AM
prednisone - 30mgs/day hope to taper soon
hydrocortisone enema - PM
canasa - PM (currently replaced by hydrocortisone e's)


Blue220
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   Posted 7/28/2008 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't do the real fast.. As in the all liquid thing. Our bodies do that naturally. We shouldn't upset that cycle.

I know we're made a little weirder since we have this, but we still operate well.
21 years old

Diagnosed with moderate/severe UC June 2007

Taking Lialda 3x a day, and just started taking Entocort(3 pills/day) on 5/29/08. Started to taper off on the steroid, but, that proved to be bad..

Severely anemic, was taking 3 65mg iron tablets a day, now just down to 1 because my hemoglobin levels are almost normal, and I cannot stand the stomach aches I get from all that iron. However, I was down to just 1 Entocort a few days ago and started to have a flare, so, I might have ruined my levels again. =/


FitzyK23
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   Posted 7/29/2008 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Personally, when I start to flare, I will go on a liquid diet for a few days and give my bowels a rest. I swear I have avoided steroids a few times doing that. But I have crohns, not UC.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


ediekristen
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   Posted 7/29/2008 12:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I just don't have the willpower to fasting I guess. I mean, there are days when I feel so sick that I just don't want to or can't eat but still..
I decided to start my clear liquid diet for my colonoscopy yesterday (a day early) and felt so ill by the time I got home it was ridiculous. I had a headache bordering a migraine, nausea, near vomiting, and diarrhea (which was a very dark almost black color) and I didn't even have energy to stand; I had to lay in bed and sip some chicken broth for awhile before I felt better. It was all I could do not to eat a bunch of food but I know it will make the prep easier. I feel better today and am still on liquids so I don't know what yesterday was all about.

Female, 23, Ulcerative colitis (pancolitis) diagnosed at age 15; GERD; gastritis; osteopenia in femur head & lumbar spine from long term prednisone use. 

Current Meds:
Lexapro 10mg
Trying out Lialda, 2 pills/day

 
 


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/29/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't cope well with missing meals (I get tired, shaky, heachachy), but I've heard that after a day or two it becomes much easier. Do I have the will power to make it that far? I don't know... but the more I read about water fasts, the more convinced I'm becoming.
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed).
Diet/Exercise:  Trying sunflower seed thing.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Showing improvement after a few days with sunflower seeds.
 
 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 7/29/2008 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Ive never done water fasts. I usually get all my protein and calories still just through liquid or near liquid means - smoothies, jello, apple sauce, broth, etc.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


quincy
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   Posted 7/29/2008 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
how about just changing the way you eat? We don't give our body enough credit to eliminate and clean out properly. UC does that quite effectively.

Take probiotics, adjust your eating habits, add fibre, drink enough water, eat a variety of foods helping your digestive tract to get enough exercise rather than being lazy, don't consume artificial sweeteners, don't drink alcohol except in small amounts or take in lots of crap foods.

My take on it.

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Eva Lou
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   Posted 7/29/2008 3:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I totally agree, Quincy. Sure, fasting will make you feel "better", in that you won't be pooping because you have nothing to dispose of! But it's not like you can fast forever. I mean, after a colonoscopy I feel great for about 4 days- until my colon gets re-filled with waste, then the symptoms just start up again. But I wouldn't want to do the old colon cleanse every week. People do underestimate our bodies ability to cleanse itself- we are a self-cleaning organism, bottom line. I suppose you could use the argument that "todays" processed foods toxify our bodies, & that we were designed to eat only "natural" stuff, etc. etc. But if that were the case, I'm sure our bodies digestive systems have evolved so that we could handle some french fries or pizza once in a while. Otherwise our life spans would be about 15! The colon cleanses are ridiculous- the colon does not need to be flushed out with warm water, & that can do a heckuva lot more harm than good.

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Asacol- 8 tabs/day
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Imuran- 150mgs/day
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Kiss520
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   Posted 7/29/2008 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Trust me when I say that nobody tries to eat healthier or take better of herself than me. I've been living like a purist for months and I'm not seeing results. I don't drink alcohol, caffeine, refined sugars, meats, dairy... the list go ON and ON. And I exercise regularly and take care of my toddler all day, so "lazy" does not describe me. I'm asking about fasting because I'm at the end of my rope and am looking for other options.
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed).
Diet/Exercise:  Trying sunflower seed thing.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Showing improvement after a few days with sunflower seeds.
 
 


tardofit
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   Posted 7/29/2008 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   

crap foods= NO NO

tons of water= GOOD GOOD

Thats what the colon wants anyways, so give it tons of water. Besides drinking more water only aids in the digestion.


Eva Lou
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   Posted 7/29/2008 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
kiss520 said...
Trust me when I say that nobody tries to eat healthier or take better of herself than me. I've been living like a purist for months and I'm not seeing results.
  Ok, but then isn't it pretty clear to you that food is not causing the problem? What about systemic meds? If you're dying to fast then go ahead & do it for a wknd, see how it goes. Have you talked with your GI about trying other meds, or SCD, or things like that?
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- since 4/07
Imuran- 150mgs/day
Culturelle
Fiber supplement
 
 
 


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/29/2008 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I still think there is something behind the diet that I'm not hitting. A few weeks ago I elimated all kinds of sugar and wheat bran fiber based on a book I read, and it seemed to make a big difference BUT I was miserable without any sugar. I stopped doing it and immediately felt worse but told myself that that diet would be a last resort, if needed. Well, the last couple days have been especially bad, so I'm back on that diet again. Last time it totally slowed down the frequency of my BM's and gave my meds a chance to heal me. This time I'll give it a lot more time.

I guess I just want to know all my options (fasting included), because my GI sucks and doesn't give me any support. He says diet doesn't matter and the SCD doesn't work. I think diet changes can make a difference for some people...
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed).
Diet/Exercise:  Trying sunflower seed thing.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Showing improvement after a few days with sunflower seeds.
 
 


dakotagirl
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   Posted 7/29/2008 6:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Diet is very personal. For some people it makes a huge difference, for me - not so much. There are several members that have had good luck with anti-yeast diets, etc.

Let's define a few things - a colon cleanse is different from a colonic. A colonic requires the insertion of fluid into the colon through the rectum. This is a completely unneccesary procedure. Want your colon completely cleared out? Prep for a colonoscopy! A colon cleanse uses supplements, fasting, liquids, etc to purge possible toxins from the colon.

There are a very few members on the site that have had luck with cleanses - these are usual members that also have a food allergy of sorts.

Have you looked for another GI? This is one person you should have a good relationship with!

Good luck with whatever you decide to try! Keep us posted :)
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Status:  Remission?!?!?
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Remicade: 1st infusion 06/17/08:  Next (3rd) infusion 08/12/08
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quincy
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   Posted 7/29/2008 9:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Kiss....what exactly are your symptoms and how are you feeling that you believe you need a colon cleanse?

Are you still taking the Rowasa twice daily plus the cortenema?

What exactly do you eat during the day?

Are you on your own or do you have a family/husband you also cook for?

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


me,too
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   Posted 7/30/2008 12:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I tried SCD-like diet (didn't make my own yogurt), but things got better when I tried the Maker's diet. This suggests switching to goat's milk dairy. This improved my symptoms. I went one month without mucus and blood. I messed things up by missing a few doses of Asacol.

I'm in this endless cycle of mucous, blood, urgency now and again. I'm trying the spinach in smoothies and sunflower seeds thing (still no wheat/grains/sugar, except I eat corn tortillas). Things do seem to be better (I'm recovering faster from my episodes and urgency is rare), but recovery has been very slow and subtle, so hang in there (I'm recovering from 2 hospitalizations last year, lots of steroids and remicade; I'm only on Asacol/Canasa now).

In terms of fasting, there's a doctor named Joel Fuhrman, who has a plan for Chron's and UC that includes diet modification, supplementing your diet, building up your stores of nutrients, then fasting on a monthly basis. I haven't consulted with him, but think it might be worth a shot. He recommends doing this in consultation with a doctor.

I eat 3 meals and have two snacks a day, so I'm not advocating for an eating disorder here, but when I need a sugar fix, I found that chewing and spitting out a cookie does the trick. I get no side effects from this, even though I know some sugar is getting into my blood stream. I also put berries and bananas in my spinach smoothie and this is plenty sweet (also add avacado and plain sheep's yogurt).

good luck

Post Edited (me,too) : 7/30/2008 12:32:11 AM (GMT-6)


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/30/2008 7:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Quincy - I'm not as much interested in a colon cleanse as I am in fasting. A cleanse seems a little harsh for a UC sufferer, but I thought the water fast might help by giving my bowels a chance to rest and heal. My meds (still accurate in my signature below) do work when my diet is going well. There is a definite correlation between what I eat and how much I "go." I've kept a food diary for months, and I know there are many things I can't have. As for my meals, I eat toast for breakfast (bread & butter), then for lunch and dinner I usually have some kind of starch (rice or potatoes) with some kind of veggie. I do have snacks occasionally - usually sunflower seeds. For drinks I usually have water or iced decaf tea sweetened with Stevia. Right now I'm not eating any meat, nuts or sugars of any kind (including fruit and lactose).

I do have a husband and toddler son to cook for, and I'm finally learning how to make that work. I make them a meat dish with rice and veggies on the side, and I just skip the meat. Any thoughts on how to improve?

Me, too - I was just looking at a book on Amazon that I believe was written by Joel Fuhrman. He's quite the advocate and made some very interesting points.
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed), Acidophilus 3X daily, Fish Oil and Multivitamin daily.
Diet/Exercise:  Sugar elimination.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Flare (showing some improvement)
 
 


men8ifr
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   Posted 7/30/2008 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
RE the sugar - try replacing sugar with honey, sugar is a disaccaride which some people dont digest honey is sucrose (I think) a much simpler molecule which the body does not need to digest to absorb it.

Re fasting I have done it only for 3 days and it helped me a lot. I was getting worse quickly going into a flare and a fast followed by eggs, cheese and meat (no carbs or fibre) for a week-10 days helped a lot all together I would say though don't do more than 3 days food with no fibre as my stools were hard and caused problems passing them. Next time I will try fasting until I dont feel good (I dont think you can do more than 3 days if you are active and at work - in a centre I can see how you could just sleep through it...) probably about 1-2 days then go on a juice fast for as long as you can tolerate maybe another 2 days or longer? then introduce foods that are easily digested and have little/no fibre (but not too long see abvove) and then just try to eat easily digested foods - look up the pecanbread website for the SCD diet 'stages'. Note this is only what I would do and of course does not provide a totally balanced diet for the (short) time you do it but I think I've got much bigger things to worry about - like going into a flare! I woudl also consider taking laxatives to evacuate the system as much as possible before starting that way you're not fasting while food is passing through you.

quincy
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   Posted 7/30/2008 10:59 AM (GMT -6)   
honey is a laxative, so start with a small amount.

eat meat!! you need the protein.

I don't think you need to be on that many rectal meds actually....I think that's part of your symptoms. You'll need to taper...I'd suggest the morning one.

Add an oral 5ASA such as asacol.

Eat small meals often throughout the day.....

Add a fibre supplement.

Fasting can become a habit...

My take on it,
quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Kiss520
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   Posted 7/30/2008 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Quincy - Your med suggestions sound right to me. I hate doing all these rectal meds and don't think they're necessary. I used to take colazal and would like to replace at least one of the enemas with that. I'm convinced that my inflammation has gone higher than my original dx indicated, so I don't think the rectal meds are even reaching it.

I've read that meat is one of the hardest things to digest. Is it smart to add it? Its so hard to determine what's easy on the digestion - this morning I saw pieces of undigested carrot in the toilet. I just ate carrots yesterday that were cooked until soft. Who would have thought those wouldn't break down?? I can't win!
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed), Acidophilus 3X daily, Fish Oil and Multivitamin daily.
Diet/Exercise:  Sugar elimination.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Flare (showing some improvement)
 
 


Luna0
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   Posted 7/31/2008 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
My mom's a diabetic so I go in a special diet anyways. Having UC for about 5 years, it seems as soon as we got a better all rounded diet my flars decressed. *that and remicade Yay for mouse protiens! Moving on I don't drink soda as much if at all some days. I drink tons of water, even ice tea. The trick i found is water down any soda and it will cut down your suger and caffein intake. Try it it is better then going cold turkey. NO SUGER U SAY!! Only to find that you really reallly really want suger then. Then when you can't stand not haveing wat you really want then you lose control and drink or eat more of the bad stufff all at once. Thus stoping the progress you had. nono Maybe that is why every summer I didn't have a flar because i would drink more water then. Hmmm interesting... cool


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Currently on:
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And many other over the counter meds.

Post Edited (Luna0) : 7/31/2008 12:11:05 PM (GMT-6)


quincy
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   Posted 8/1/2008 1:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Katie....just eat! small meals more often during the day. Start the Colazal and just use the Rowasa at night after a quick taper of the morning Rowasa.

meat takes longer to digest...so....not a big deal...that's good. You need fuel.

Carrots will look that way because you don't fully digest the type of fibre anyway.. The fact that you don't have much formed stool just allows you to see the carrots.

Have an egg in the morning for sure....unless you're allergic to them. Good protein, good vitamins and minerals.

Don't have lots of milk. Most of us are lactose intolerant and it'll just cause you more discomfort.

Eat foods that'll give you the best bang for the buck so to say. Protein is important for healing. Meats are the best source for that. Have vegetables as well cooked (steamed) as possible to give you the least amount of discomfort.

You can consider to take a digestive enzyme for meats. Bromelain is a good one.

I still think you should stop the fish oil for a while.....

Oh, have a treat a day....so that you're not feeling deprived. Don't do artificial sweeteners for sure.



when will you be talking to your doctor next to enquire about he Colazal?

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


Kiss520
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   Posted 8/1/2008 6:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Quincy - I'll probably be asking my doctor about tapering the morning Rowasa today. The sugar elimination thing that I'm doing is already helping again, so I don't want to blow it by having a treat. I'm not using artificial sweeteners, just Stevia (which is natural). That will keep me going for a while, and I think its probably best that I break myself of my need for cookies and sweets anyway.

I think I will start eating meat again, and I'll give the Bromelain a shot. Is that specifically for helping to digest meats? I don't know much about it. I definitely feel like I need more protein in my diet, because I've been feeling weak and achy lately. I like the egg idea. I can't eat scrambled (fried) eggs, but I'll try hard-boiling some. Milk is off-limits on the sugar elimination diet, so I'm already cutting that out (it does seem to cause problems for me in large amounts).

Thanks for the tips and advice. I appreciate it!
Katie
Katie, 30.   Chicago 'burbs.
DX:  Ulcerative Proctitis (10cm) January '08
Current Treament:  Rowasa 60 ML 2X daily, Cortenama 100 ML 1X daily, Bentyl 20 MG (as needed), Acidophilus 3X daily, Fish Oil and Multivitamin daily.
Diet/Exercise:  Sugar elimination.  Daily yoga, walking, or cardio w/weights.
Previous Treatment:  Canasa suppositories, Cortifoam, Prednisone, Colazal, Symex DuoTabs, Vitamins.
Status:  Flare (showing some improvement)
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 8/1/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi...definitely do the research, as much as you can to make sure you're not in the category of contraindications.

It doesn't have a negative effect on me, but that doesn't mean it won't for anyone else. There are other protein enzymes...again, do the research to find one or a combo that might work better.

They might cause some discomfort or even some diarrhea if too many are taken.

I eat a boiled egg and toast every morning (and coffee)...keeps me going for a long time.

Hope you have a good weekend.
quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!

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