Anyone tried David Klien's diet and healing approach?

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serothschild
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   Posted 7/31/2008 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
First of all, thank you to everyone in this community who honestly shares their thoughts, experiences, and feelings so openly.  I just found this site last week and it has been like a Godsend...and I'm not even religious!  Anyhow, was wondering if anyone has tried David Klien's approach to healing using an all Vegan diet and self healing.  I've read his book titled Self Healing Colitis and Crohn's and thought it all seemed a bit goofy until I really was ready to try it when all my other options and medications proved unsuccessful.  I'm not able to stick to it completely strickly, but have incorporated many of his dietary methods and actually seem to be feeling noticeably better after one week.  I'm just looking for some feedback for anyone who's tried it and specifically what you found to be most helpful about the diet.  Thanks for any responses you can give.
 
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WishfulMA
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   Posted 7/31/2008 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I saw the book listed on amazon the other day but it was not available. Can you explain a little about the diet?
ulcerative proctitis - march 05 diagnosed
current status - bad flare
colazal - 9 pills
prednisone -20mgs(tapering), canasa -AM, hydrocortisone enema - PM
VSL#3
fish oil, flaxseed oil, bee pollen/royal jelly & garlic, calcium & vitamin d 2x a day, prenatal vitamin plus extra vitamin c and b12 complex
ACCUPUNCTURE
 


serothschild
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   Posted 7/31/2008 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   
WishfulMA said...
I saw the book listed on amazon the other day but it was not available. Can you explain a little about the diet?

The basics of the book are that your body is a self healing organism given you give it what it needs...namely, proper diet, rest, positive energy and thoughts, excercise, etc....  The diet seems to be a large emphasis of the book and it entails eating all raw fruits and vegetables (mostly all fruits for healing the body) and using raw fruits and vegetables in certain combinations for eating and juicing.  Proteins in the diet come in the form of avacados and almonds and a few other sources.  Overall, I believe in the healing powers of foods, especially of raw fruits and vegetables...after all, scientifically speaking they're just matter that is made of chemical compounds just like everything else in this earth, including meds. 
 
 
Sandra


jujub
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   Posted 7/31/2008 8:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I've seen this discussed before on the forum. I'm not sure if anyone has ever followed the plan completely. I do know I've never heard anyone, either here or elsewhere, talking about how much it helped them. Maybe I just haven't met the right person.
Judy
 
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kb5
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   Posted 8/1/2008 7:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I've looked into the diet, it was recommended to me years ago. My body can't handle that much raw food. Even in remission I can't tolerate most raw veggies and fruits. Fot he most part i don't eat anything i can't peel when it comes to fruit and veggies. I do beleive a good diet helps heal but don't see how an unbalanced diet of anykind can help. I would suggest seeing a nutritionist with IBD experience if you are interested in healing through diet.
Kelly, 30

Left sided UC diagnosed 1/98 age 19, Pan colitis diagnosed 1/07
Currently on 4x3 Asacol, no more pred after two years!!!! Off imuran as remicade is working!
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P-Fit
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   Posted 8/1/2008 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
kb5 said...
I've looked into the diet, it was recommended to me years ago. My body can't handle that much raw food. Even in remission I can't tolerate most raw veggies and fruits. Fot he most part i don't eat anything i can't peel when it comes to fruit and veggies. I do beleive a good diet helps heal but don't see how an unbalanced diet of anykind can help. I would suggest seeing a nutritionist with IBD experience if you are interested in healing through diet.

I agree with you completely. I cant handle raw stuff, especially during a flare and with my anemia, I really need some meat form of protein, as it is more complete than veggie forms.
Dee-38yrs old 
Diagnosed with UC in 2004-PTSD/Panic Disorder/Depression in 2007 & Fibromyalgia 2008
750mg colozal 3 pills 3x a day, .5mg clonazepam, 7.5mg Lexapro
1,000mg canasa suppositories (PM),
 Fioricet-Migraines
Prilosec-Not sure(Heartburn/GERD), Fish Oils
GNC Womens Active Formula Multi-vitamin
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WishfulMA
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   Posted 8/1/2008 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
i too can not handle too much raw veggies. i stopped eating salad because it gave me too much D which aggrevates my proctitis.

ulcerative proctitis - march 05 diagnosed
current status - bad flare
colazal - 9 pills
prednisone -20mgs(tapering), canasa -AM, hydrocortisone enema - PM
VSL#3
fish oil, flaxseed oil, bee pollen/royal jelly & garlic, calcium & vitamin d 2x a day, prenatal vitamin plus extra vitamin c and b12 complex
ACCUPUNCTURE
 


quincy
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   Posted 8/1/2008 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
common sense pretty much rules no matter what the perceived experts are.

We're actually not made to eat only raw foods...considering when the invention of fire was, we have have evolved a tad.

Just because someone says it's so doesn't mean it's true.

q
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....zymactive 3 - 5x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!

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