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LondonRed
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   Posted 9/4/2008 12:55 AM (GMT -6)   
It would be interesting to see how people bleed when in a flair or mini flair or even just daily.
 
Is it loads all over the stool or mixed with it? Dripping into the bowl or just onto the tissue?
 
Or is it bloody diarrhoea?
 
Also how frequent is the bleeding? Every BM? Some BM's? or occasionally?
 
Finally, is it the same volume each time or does it vary?

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jars05
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   Posted 9/4/2008 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
It varies, but when it's really bad the spasms are intense and it drips into the bowl. Right now it's kind of mixed in the stool like spots. Sometimes it is just on the tissue.
Age: 30
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Diagnosed with UC in 1997.
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Supplements: calcium, and multivitamin
No. of colonoscopies: 5
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men8ifr
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   Posted 9/4/2008 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
When I'm in a flare I can get some symptoms wind, bloating and inflammation without blood but once the symptoms get bad enough there is blood every BM normally dripping into the bowl. Cant' see if the stools have blood since the waters red and I'm not about to start fishing them out! When my symptoms are not as bad i've had what looks like more dried blood lumps on the stool - nice!
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sweetmelody
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I have hemmies... so it can be just on the toilet paper or dripping. But in a flare its mostly mixed in and it fills up the bowl.

I have days where i don't bleed... but in a flare up i bleed every time i go. I'm getting better from a flare up now and am only seeing blood if the cramps or spasming gets really bad... and just if i eat somethin that doesn't agree.
Kara, 21F Married.
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Red_34
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm in a very mild flare at the moment and sometimes it will be on the stool itself (which is semi solid at the moment to D) but while in a bad flare, I sometimes have to go to the bathroom just to expel blood and mucous. Also sometimes it is mixed in with the D. So for me it varies as well as to how bad the inflammation is. But I can count on one hand on how many times I haven't bled to some degree whether it's on the tp, stool or dripping in the bowl.
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   

Daily bleeder here! I get up, & expel small amounts of bloody mucous a couple times. Then I'll actually pass solid stool, sometimes with a little bit of blood on it, but not on the tp. I do that 3-4 times usually. Then I'm good. Sometimes thruout the day I'll pass just mucous, very little blood. But always, every morning, there is bloody balls of mucous first thing. This is when I'm in "remission", mind you! While flaring, it's bad, blood dripping into the toilet, the bowl bright red, etc. I used to freak out about the blood, but then learned on here that many many people bleed daily, & that's just the way it is. If I told my GI (well, he does know, but...) he'd recommend prednisone. Not again, thanks! So I just deal with it. To me, it's not a sign of a flare, it's just a sign of a mildly inflamed colon. Which I always seem to have!


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LondonRed
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Looks like everyone bleeds exactly as they would when they have hemmorhoids. Which to me is very worrying in that how would people be able to tell if it is a flair or hemmies?

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: 2 Patches of Mild Chrohn's Colitis (unconfirmed)
Medication: 4000mg Pentasa a day, 5mg Clipper Steroid (Beclometasone dipropionate)


sweetmelody
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
usually when its just my hemmies.. its only like dripping or on the tp...


if its mixed in and stuff... or it fills the bowl.. thats how i know
Kara, 21F Married.
Diagnosed March, 2007, but was going through testing for a year before diagnosis.
Left Sided UC. Currently in a flare.
Medications:
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Steroid Enemas


LondonRed
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I have never had mixed in, I have it sometimes dripping, TP or on the outside of the stools - streaks. Usually at the end of my BM. My doc is convinced it's hemmies and told me to just look out for D.

But that is easy to say. I think Hemmies can be a massive distraction and am surprised people are not more concerned by them.

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: 2 Patches of Mild Chrohn's Colitis (unconfirmed)
Medication: 4000mg Pentasa a day, 5mg Clipper Steroid (Beclometasone dipropionate)


sweetmelody
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   Posted 9/4/2008 7:58 AM (GMT -6)   
i just think they bleed diff... the blood is brighter too.

but for some reason i've had a hemmie for years..external anyways...and most people say they have pain, but i've never really had it bother me except that it looks weird and bleeds lol

i guess if it ever got bothersome i'd have it removed.
Kara, 21F Married.
Diagnosed March, 2007, but was going through testing for a year before diagnosis.
Left Sided UC. Currently in a flare.
Medications:
Lialda - 4 pills in the morning w/ food.
Steroid Enemas


LondonRed
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   Posted 9/4/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, my blood 90% of the time is bright red, bright enough to illuminate a room!

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: 2 Patches of Mild Chrohn's Colitis (unconfirmed)
Medication: 4000mg Pentasa a day, 5mg Clipper Steroid (Beclometasone dipropionate)


sweetmelody
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   Posted 9/4/2008 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
wow lol
Kara, 21F Married.
Diagnosed March, 2007, but was going through testing for a year before diagnosis.
Left Sided UC. Currently in a flare.
Medications:
Lialda - 4 pills in the morning w/ food.
Steroid Enemas


LondonRed
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   Posted 9/4/2008 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
So I take it inflammation blood is usually not as bright, or mixed in with stool or D and has accompanied pain and other symptoms like D?

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: 2 Patches of Mild Chrohn's Colitis (unconfirmed)
Medication: 4000mg Pentasa a day, 5mg Clipper Steroid (Beclometasone dipropionate)


Red_34
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   Posted 9/4/2008 9:58 AM (GMT -6)   
It is very hard to distinguish the blood from a rectal flare and the blood from a hemmie. If you are having bright red blood, see if your doc can prescribe a steroid suppository (if they have it where you are) because then it will help the bleeding from a hemmie in addition to stopping a rectal flare. I have an internal hemmie that protrudes on occasion and when I see bright red blood and I get a bit of itching down there then I usually assume the bleeding is from the hemmie. But I found that I can't assume anything with my UC because I am always bleeding to some extent and I never know what it is from. I honestly can't say what it is like to have a lack of Uc symptoms associated with my bleeding because I have had only a small (smaaaallll) percentage of remissions over the years. So I get confused too. It is frustrating as all heck that's for sure! But yes, rectal inflammation blood can be as bright as hemmie blood. The lighter the blood, the closer to the rectum it is - the darker the blood, higher up in the GI tract it is.
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at wit's end
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   Posted 9/4/2008 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
My flares in past years used to consist of diarrhea and urgency and dark red blood dripping into the toilet. With this I've not seen anything on the stool, no diarrhea, just occasional bright red blood on the toilet paper. So I'm not sure this is a flare. It's nothing like a flare of mine in the past. And I do have the spasms though.



Diagnosed with left sided UC in sigmoid colon and rectum 1986.
Put on Azulfidine 2 X 3 a day and Rowasa enemas 60mg.
Have been pretty much in remission overall other than a few flares over the past 21 years.
Medicine changed to Asacol 400mg 2 pills X3 times a day. Taken off all meds in 2004.
Diagnosed with acid reflux 2005. Put on Protonix 40mg.
Have been using Canasa 1000mg suppositories nightly since January 2007.
Was put back on Asacol 400mg 2 pills 2X a day in July 2007 maintenance. 


Eva Lou
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   Posted 9/4/2008 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
For me, when I'm flaring, it's frequent episodes of D, accompanied with bright red blood dripping into the toilet. And the mucous, gas, general overall feeling of unwellness, etc. On a day to day basis, I have the bloody mucous, accompanied with totally formed stools, maybe a little blood on the tp. Just pink, mixed in with stool & mucousy stuff. No D, overall feeling ok, no dripping blood. That's how I differentiate. Plus, with a flare, it gets worse & worse daily, whereas I've been in the same pattern of "ok-ness" for months now. But still seeing blood/bloody mucous daily. I don't have any internal hemmorrhoids that I know of- none were ever mentioned to me after scopes either. Have had some external ones, but they have been behaving themselves as of late & causing no trouble.

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- since 4/07
Imuran- 150mgs/day
Culturelle
Fiber supplement
 
 
 


TraciZ
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   Posted 9/4/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
At it's worst, it was like I had my period. I bled all the time for years. Now, I'm just starting a flare after a remission of about 2 months and it's about a tablespoon of thick, paint-like red blood. It comes and goes.

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Peety
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   Posted 9/4/2008 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I have blood and mucous daily, but mostly in the morning if I'm doing better. I've had bad flares where there were sheets of blood, more blood than anything else it seemed.

49 year old female, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA maintenance for 20+ years, usually 3 pills 2x day. 
Currently tapering off presnisone from lingering flare;
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Tested gluten intolerant and started gluten-free, soy-free, etc. diet which resolved flare. Also Replete probiotic, DGL (licorice root, slippery elm), Permeability Factors. Slow-release iron and B-12 shots for severe anemia.
 


burnabygirl
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   Posted 9/4/2008 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was first dx with UC in 2006 I saw 2-3 small red particles floating in the toilet bowl. I thought it was undigested cherries and later found that it's blood. The bleeding was minimal. Salofalk enema was the only medication I took. I was in full remission 4 months later.
In my recent flare, I saw thick blood under my stool. Is it because I pass blood before the stool?
I use Salofalk enema/suppository every night. I don't see blood during my first BM in the morning. But after that there is often some blood under the stool/mucous.
Ulcerative proctitis diagnosed in July 2006. Medications: Salofalk enema nightly.
Remission from Nov 2006 to Oct 2007. Then a bad cold and a bad flare till the present.
Pancolitis diagnosed in April 2008. Current medications: Salofalk enema/suppository, Salofalk tablets 500mg x 3/day, Azathioprine 75 mg. Warfarin for my Deep Vein Thrombosis which resulted from diarrheas and dehydration in Feb 2008.
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AshNH
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   Posted 9/4/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
For those bleeding frequently, I would suggest Rowasa(same medication as Asacol) but rectally. I find that it does help me reduce and speed up the elimination of bleeding. Frankly, I was surprised why my doctor hadn't recommended it quicker. It took a long time before they did and I find it very helpful now. May help you too..
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Not taking much of anything after trying anti-fungal diet.

Previous meds: Asacol 12/day, Imuran 150mg
L-glutamine, Coconut Water, Rowasa(as needed)


marty1976
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   Posted 9/4/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
i FIND THAT ITS DIFFERENT WITH EVERY FLARE.When its bright red red i know that the inflamation is lower down the colon, when its darker its further up.When it fills the bowl its time to get to the hospital or the doctors.
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LondonRed
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   Posted 9/5/2008 2:29 AM (GMT -6)   
So basically those of us when Hemmies and Inflammation just have to assume that the everyday bleeding is from the colitis just to be on the safe side. What that does though is put us on maybe unnecessry medications. I guess the best thing is to have surgey or injection therpay on the hemmies but the GI says that's risky as it can cause a flair.

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Medication: 4000mg Pentasa a day, 5mg Clipper Steroid (Beclometasone dipropionate)


Red_34
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   Posted 9/5/2008 4:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Using steroid suppositories isn't an unnecessary med when it comes to the hemmies because if otc products don't stop the bleeding of hemmies, doctors prescribe the steroid supps to reduce the swelling which in turn will stop the bleeding. Most people have hemmies and don't realize it and I think because we use the bathroom so much that we aggravate them more then the normal population. I've heard that hemmie flare ups can also be a precurser to a flare in some Uc'ers. So with Uc (or CD), one must be vigilant in their health and look for any sign or symptom that can be the beginning of a flare. For some, having hemmie aggravation can be one of them especially if it's an internal one. Btw, I heard that injection therapy on a hemmie is extremely painful *shudders just to think about it!* :)
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LondonRed
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   Posted 9/6/2008 3:04 AM (GMT -6)   
On a rigid sigmoidoscope the doctor found a stage two Hemmoroid which he says will bleed, but he also poked my colon a bit and saw blood there too - so I have a double wammy - blood from a from patch of inflammation and blood from a hemmie.
 
The joy!

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: Inditerminate Patches of Mild Colitis (including Rectum) - Currently Minor Bleeding
Medication: 1000mg Mesalazine Suppository at night.


sore_guts
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   Posted 9/6/2008 6:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I bleed for years before finally reaching recent remission.  It was like having my period every day.  The toilet was always full of bright red blood and always on the tp.  I bleed every BM and with every gas.  If I had to fart I had to do it on the toilet.  Very gross, but that was my reality for several years.  I was always on high iron supplements doses and always anemic.  And I do not have any hemmoriods, have had several exams to look for external, internal but never found any.

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