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Gigi1227
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   Posted 9/4/2008 11:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Quitting smoking is what brought on my colitis.  I am so tired of all of this and I apologize, but I need to vent.  I am following my diet to the T.  I am taking my meds.  I have given up 90 % of the thing I enjoy in hopes to feel better and I don't.  My arthritis is up - thank you uc.  When I wake up in the a.m. my hands are in a C and I have to put them under warm water to start working them open.  If nicotine will help this then I say here, here.  Oh we'll see.  Thank you for letting me vent.
 
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   Posted 9/5/2008 5:16 AM (GMT -6)   

I gave up smoking when pregnant with my first son 7 years ago, when he was 6 mths old I had my first ever flare and was diagnosed with UC. I started smoking again due to stress. I then fell pregnant with my second son 3 years later and immediately started flaring, gave up cigs for a second time due to being pregnant. Again when he was 6 mths old I started smoking again this time as I had relatives over to stay on holiday and I took it up again as they were smoking, thought I would be able to stop but 3 years later I'm still smoking.

I only smoke about 5 cigs a day don't think they help with my colitis at all however they do help me when stressed. Obviously I would like to stop smoking and have tried on several occassions but when tummy starts to play they are the first thing I reach for. But I can honestly say I don't think they help with my UC as whether I am smoking or not I get flares.


32 year old female
UC diagnosed 2001
Asacol 6 per day
Azathioprine 100mg started 4/08
Steroids 5mg per day


Whyohwhy
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   Posted 9/5/2008 5:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Unless you organically grow your own tobaco plants in your yard.
I'd say cigarettes are about one of the worst chemical combinations you could possibly consume. Think of all the crap they put into one cigarette. And the lung damage, wow. But then again Prednisone is some awful stuff too.
The individuality of IBD cases is astounding to me! So if you think smoking might help, i don't think i can tell anyone of us to not at least try something, whatever it is. Hell if you go into remmision for a while i might start smoking.
The marlboro diet,lol.
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Red_34
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   Posted 9/5/2008 5:55 AM (GMT -6)   
By stopping smoking, you have done a world of greater good for your body. Don't rationalize to start again. Stopping is one of the hardest things to do - trust me I know! But rather then go back to smoking, what about using the patch or even the gum to see if the nicotine helps you. There are some studies though that suggest that it is actually the carbon monoxide that is the reason it helps you and not the nicotine. I think that may be true because when I quit smoking for 2 years, I tried the patch (gave me horrid abdominal cramps and extreme night terrors plus it burned my skin) and the gums and it didn't help my symptoms one bit. But when I started back up, my Uc started behaving itself again. But by starting back up, it also opens the door to sooooo many other conditions such as lung cancer, COPD, slower healing etc. I highhhhhly recommend you don't start back up, but sometimes we get so desperate to feel better that we have to go with what works ya know?
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UCinGV
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   Posted 9/5/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's an idea to help determine if it's the nicotine or the carbon monoxide that affects UC:

Many people have gotten flarups from quitting smoking. Has anyone gotten a flareup from only quitting chewing tobacco?
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Mitzo
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   Posted 9/5/2008 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
The only thing that makes me well is smoking. The only thing. The patch and oral tobacco help a fraction as much. Smoking raises risks of some problems but surely continuous meds and the wear and tear on the entire system of UC is a bit of a concern too?

21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 

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suebear
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   Posted 9/5/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
If you want to smoke cigarettes for UC then by all means go ahead and smoke but please don't rationalize your decision by indicating that taking meds is far worse than the risk of cancer! UC patients rarely die due to their use of medication or by their disease alone. However, cigarette smokers often die. about 1/3 of all cancer related deaths are attributed to cigarette smoking. That's 1 in 5. Not to mention that smoking increases the risk of other cancers including increasing the risk of those around you through second hand smoke.

Smoking raises the risk of a lot of problems, not some.

Sue
dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998

1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


Gigi1227
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   Posted 9/5/2008 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all ! When I posted this I was totally exhausted. Put in a 10 hour day at work (I only work 2 days a week now) and had driven over 200 miles. Amazing how exhaustion not only affects us physically, but emotionally. I went to my smoking forum, quitnet.com, and posted. They helped me thru it and then I come here and read your responses. It is so wonderful to have support. I have chosen to not smoke. I have been smokefree 178 days today and I don't ever want to go back thru "hell week" again. Hell week is the first week of quitting smoking and it was horrible. Anyway, if I smoke a cigarette now it would be disgusting.

Again, thank you all for your continued support!

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suebear
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   Posted 9/5/2008 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Gigi,

Good for you! I am so proud you were able to get past that temptation!

Sue
dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998

1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


mommaduck
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   Posted 9/5/2008 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   

One thing to think about is 'how do you smoke?' the actual physical process.

My Father In Law was told by a doctor that it was better for him to smoke. He had COPD and was on hospice, living here with us. We thought the DR was crazy to tell a man who was in heart failure and had COPD!!

We figured out why the doctor thought that when Dad was given a nebulizer machine. The deep breathing and the slow breaths seemed to calm him. We didn't forbid him to smoke, but he had to smoke outside because our youngest has asthma. We would wheel him out on the porch, in his wheelchair, and he would turn off his oxygen to have a cig. Later, he would have trouble breathing, and we would hook up the nebulizer, and I could see the same relaxing affect.

The medication that we had to putin there for the breathing treatment would barely be touched before he was relaxed. I know some of it may have been the meds, but I firmly believe that a lot of it was the relax and breath.

I know every person is different, but it's worth a try. I don't mean with a nebulizer, but just make yourself sit and relax, taking the deep slow breaths. I know it seems strange at first, but if you make yourself set a timer, I can't remember how long a breathing treatment took, but anyway, set a timer and make it like taking one of your medications.This is my medication, and I need to go sit in a quiet place (although my place is rarely quiet with 4 youngin's tongue ), and just rest and breath.


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Gigi1227
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   Posted 9/5/2008 12:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, thank you mommaduck for your advice and I love you for loving your husband as you do! That is awesome! I am over it do not intend to smoke, but your sit and relax advice is very good. I will definitely try that the next time I break down!

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mommaduck
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   Posted 9/5/2008 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Gigi1227

just curious, is 1227 symbolic of something? That is our youngest child's birthdate =o) 1995
m4dcks 
husband's: secretary, cook, researcher, housekeeper, wife, nurse, comforter, etc. and loving every minute of it!
Husband Diagnosed CD 7/06:
currently taking:Tramadl, PRN, every 6 hours -takes off the edge; Dicyclomine 10mg PRN, 4 hrs; Asacol 1200mg 3X, too high, 800mg 3x;Prednisone 40mg taper; Intestinew, herbal-positive results; Calcium; Centrum multi-vitamin; Potassium RX


Lucky777
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   Posted 9/5/2008 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I quit smoking when I was in Afghanistan, and continued to stay off of it for about a year (cheating very rarely). WHen my recent flare started (feb timeframe til now) I decided to start smoking again, think of the same benefits. Well, it didn't work. It helped my stress a bit, but it didn't work for my flare. ANd 5 months later, I felt like total and utter crap for the rest of my body, whereas before I was very healthy. SO I have now quit again. I won't be starting back up again. I would rather have my guts taken out than stay hooked on cigarettes.
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Gigi1227
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   Posted 9/5/2008 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Mommaduck 12/27 is our wedding anniversary. We will be married 4 yrs this December.

NuffinButtTrouble
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   Posted 9/5/2008 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   

I hate cigarettes...they've cause the death of a lot of good friends of mine and their deaths were not nice...cancer, kemo...

Companies knew what they were doing when they put nicotine and other chemicals in the product mad

 

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UC Sucks
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   Posted 9/5/2008 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I am a dirty shameful smoker, and I got diagnosed with UC after I had successfully quit smoking for the first time ever! I was inpatient and IV steroids werent working and I was losing a lot of weight and (I know this is unbelievable) my doctor told me to start again, even wrote me passes to leave my hospital room, IV and all. Since then I have increased my smoking every time I get a flare, which has honestly worked until my most recent flare. So the moral of the story is that nicotine has always been a quick fix for me but eventually it stopped being effective. Meds, diet, rest, and exercise regimens are much more challenging but, in the end, more effective for long term health and remission. STAY STRONG!
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Gigi1227
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   Posted 9/5/2008 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
So UC I am slow here do you recommend smoking?

UC Sucks
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   Posted 9/5/2008 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Well it worked for me temporarily when I was at my absolute worst, but it has definately not kept me free of flares and it did NOTHING for my most recent flare.  I do not recommend it, but for me there were some benefits. Any rational person knows its not worth the risk.  The problem is that when I am in the middle of a flare, I am far from rational and have been known to say "Ill do anything to make this stop"  Just giving my personal experience with smoking.  I do think that a nicotine patch may be a safer way to ward off flares, but it never had the same effect for me.  Good Luck!! :-)
29 year old female
Diagnosed with UC 2005
Current regimen: Mid flare... :-(
Asacol 4800 mg/day-Prednisone 30 mg/day-Remicade Q8weeks
Used in past:  Sulfasalazine and 6MP.


potato
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   Posted 9/5/2008 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
If you've been using Quitnet then you know in your heart what a good thing you've done for yourself by quitting, not just the benefits to your heart and lungs, but to your self confidence as well... dang, woman, you did it!   
 
I also know it must be hard to go there for support when you know that your UC was probably held off by smoking... all rationalizations are tempting, especially when the people you need support from don't totally get what's going on with you.   
 
But Gigi, wow, 178 days!  Congratulations! 
 
Lots here obviously have gone through that nightmare of quitting, so it's a good place to vent to people who understand both sides, I think. 
 
In the midst of the muddle of UC, I suspect it is possible to start feeling better, and we just need to be patient and give ourselves a chance to heal. 
 
 
 
 
 
Potato...  Female, 58, dx mild left sided ulcerative colitis 11/07
asacol 3 3x a day 
cortenema (generic) am & pm Rowasa every other day 
culturelle, benefiber wafers  generic acidophilus, metamucil wafers
children's vitamin, Vitamin E 400 mg
omeprazole 2x a day
oxazepam when needed, lomotil or ImodiumAD (but not in the same day)
 
 
 
 
 
 


Red_34
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   Posted 9/6/2008 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm a light smoker - I only smoke about 10 cigs a day and usually I feel ok on it. But if I go out with friends to play pool or go to the bar then I tend to smoke more and the next morning I feel absolutely dreadful - even if I don't have anything to drink. It also makes my Uc worse in the mornings if I smoke more then the 10 a day. So, it could be that too much is not such a good thing when it comes to controlling your symptoms thru smoking.

But super congrats on that many days of being smoke free! I applaud your efforts and keep up the good work! :)
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Mitzo
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   Posted 9/6/2008 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Honestly, if anyone gets relief by smoking and is not tied up in knots about the health risks of smoking, and feels the benefits outweigh the negatives, then I say by all means go ahead. I still deeply resent that by quitting I ended up with this hideous humiliating illness. Even if I fell into the category of smokers who get cancer after decades of smoking, I still would have had decades of no UC and had a better quality of life. Looks like well-intentioned public health efforts like antismoking campaigns actually reduce quality of life for some of us. Anyone know the odds of getting colon cancer from UC? How many people on this forum have had pieces of their colons removed?

21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 

  • 3 500mg Pentasa a day
  • Psyllium powder.


suebear
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   Posted 9/6/2008 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   

You don't get "pieces" of your colon removed by having UC.  You get the entire colon and rectum removed.  Count me as one of those.

Sue


dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998

1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


Sara14
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   Posted 9/6/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, Mitzo, I got UC and I didn't even quit smoking! So, you could have gotten it anyway.
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pb4
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   Posted 9/6/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   

Here's an actual study that proves it's the carbon monoxide...regardless what works for some doesn't work for all and that's the main thing even when it comes to studies like this...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/35173.php

UCinGV said...
Here's an idea to help determine if it's the nicotine or the carbon monoxide that affects UC:

Many people have gotten flarups from quitting smoking. Has anyone gotten a flareup from only quitting chewing tobacco?

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


Mitzo
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   Posted 9/6/2008 4:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Sara14, I got UC within a year after quitting smoking, and when I smoke the symptoms fizzle away. My father got horrendous stomach ulcers after quitting and my brother duodenal ulcers. Quitting really improves one's health! confused
21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 

  • 3 500mg Pentasa a day
  • Psyllium powder.

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