Weird BMs -- good sign or bad? (graphic, sorry)

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emory
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   Posted 9/27/2008 9:14 PM (GMT -6)   
For a while, I've had some BMs that consist of gas and one or two blood/mucus plugs -- about the size of pencil erasers, and looking kind of like the little balls we kids used to squish our Wonder bread into. But things have reached a new level.

First, let me say that I have not had a "real" (fecal) BM since 9:30 Friday morning. about 9:00 last night, I had a BM that was just gas and a DOZEN of those little plugs. (Yes, I did get out my handy flashlight and count them.) Since then, I've had a couple more BMs with multiple but fewer plugs. One time there was just little dark bits, almost like coffee grounds but not that dark and not that plentiful, just a spattering.

Does anyone have any idea what this is? Could it be bits of suppository conglomerating with blood and mucus? And overall, would this be a good thing or bad?

Again, apologies for the graphic nature of this post. Hope there are no Wonder bread fans out there.
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008 (after 5 weeks of blood and mucous) and still flaring
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg (or more) and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Trying acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


beartooth
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   Posted 9/27/2008 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had those little bms off and on for a few weeks now. Before I got the bleeding under control, I'd have those same bms, only they'd be bloody and mucousy. Now, I get the urge, and when I go, I pass gas, and a couple of little pebbles come out. Luckily most of the bleeding has stopped for me. I like to think it is a good sign, because at least something formed is coming out. Hopefully it a sign that you're turning a corner, and some relief is on the way.
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06 - currently flaring
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort retention fluid, Prednisone 15mg and tapering down


ucwarrior
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   Posted 9/27/2008 10:59 PM (GMT -6)   
First I commend you on stool observation. All afflicted with UC should observe their stools, its "listening" to your body. If you are bleeding then your inflammation has caused your capillaries in the gut wall to spill. If the blood is bright red its usually lower in the GI, if it is black or tarry it is higher up. If the stool sinks it is often a good sign. If it floats it means improper assimilation of fats or fiber. The "plugs" could be a multitude of things.

As far as if its good or bad, a GI chat to your doc who prescribed these meds should point u in the right direction.

pb4
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   Posted 9/28/2008 12:24 AM (GMT -6)   
All good advice except I've heard that stool should not have a foul smell, that if it does, that's not a good sign...when hubby gets a bad gut (probably from all the colk he drinks, he smells up the place...when my son "goes" there is no strong or noticably unpleasant odor...same with me, except during my periods my stools have a strong/unpleasant odor.

Stool normally has an unpleasant odor, but one that is recognized as fairly common. Stools that have an extremely bad, out-of-the-ordinary odor may be associated with certain medical conditions. Foul-smelling stools also have normal causes, most notably diet.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

Post Edited (pb4) : 9/28/2008 12:28:19 AM (GMT-6)


quincy
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   Posted 9/28/2008 2:34 AM (GMT -6)   
emory...are you eating regularly? Have you had anything different in the past little while?

Did the doc take stool samples?

How many times are you going? Increasing over the past few days?

I'd classify it as flaring....the round balls, are they floating?

Are you taking the metamucil 3x daily?

q
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 

Post Edited (quincy) : 9/28/2008 1:27:25 PM (GMT-6)


Red_34
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   Posted 9/28/2008 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Ah there goes my appetite for my Wonder bread toast in the morning! Just kidding smilewinkgrin   Please never apologize for any graphic description here on the Uc forum.  That is the nature of our disease and there is no way around it. 
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emory
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   Posted 9/28/2008 7:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, everyone, for the replies.

With regard to foul smell, the only foul smell I've noticed seems to come from use of the hydrocortisone suppositories. I've also noticed that the longer the suppositories stay in (during periods of semi-constipation), the darker the blood that comes out; I think the suppositories must have a staining effect (as they are supposed to on furniture and clothing).

Sometimes the plugs float, in which case I think they are mostly suppository leftovers. Almost always, they sink.

Quincy, I count it as still flaring also -- just hoping it's a sign that something is starting to heal on the inside. I have been eating regularly and frequently,and am usually right under 2000 calories daily. I haven't had any different foods recently.

The doc did not take stool samples.

Total number of BMs per day has decreased pretty dramatically, but fluctuates -- generally around 4 this week. I might have 6 one day, 1 the next.

I take the Metamucil at 5:00 pm, two tablespoons with 16 oz water. The doctor prescribed it in one dose, and I didn't think to ask why. He said to take it at bedtime, but I can't because of other bedtime meds.
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008 (after 5 weeks of blood and mucous) and still flaring
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg (or more) and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Trying acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


quincy
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   Posted 9/28/2008 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi...improving is the optimum word, and the metamucil could have slowed things a bit.

If you're taking it after supper or with supper, that should help....

Are you eating any meat, foods with bulk..etc? not just soft "white"foods?

He has you on only one dosage daily....one can take it up to 3 times a day..I'd save that for diarrhea days.

Tell me again when your last c-scope was?

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


emory
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   Posted 9/28/2008 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I'm eating some foods with buik, maybe not enough. Actually had pork roast with potatoes and carrots (slow cooker) on Friday night, and whole wheat pasta with spinach and mushrooms in cream sauce last night, both of which I expected to get things moving.

Just a bit ago finally had a "real" life-size BM with comparatively very little sign of blood. Not getting my hopes up yet, but a welcome change.

My last (and only) "full" colonoscopy was in December 2004 -- just to the hepatic flexure. Last sigmoidoscopy on June 12. Second doctor said he'd want to take at least a limited look in a couple of weeks if things don't start to clear up. (I like both my doctors, but they seem to vary quite a bit in their approach.)

Stay well, quincy -- hope you've had a good weekend. Daughter and I just got back from a woodsy walk along a creek with good friends (one her age, one mine!). Such a lovely fall day.

Best,
emory
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008 (after 5 weeks of blood and mucous) and still flaring
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg (or more) and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Trying acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


tums
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   Posted 9/29/2008 4:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I remember when I was first diagnosed and read info that was given to me about UC and it said that after a flare and getting better it was common to pass poo that looked like sheeps poo (small round formed balls of poo) like pebbles so I like it when I have BM's like this (my pebble poo) I call them as I always think oh things must be good in there. Also if you are a bit constipated your poo can be formed like this.

32 year old female
UC diagnosed 2001
Asacol 6 per day
Azathioprine 100mg started 4/08
Steroids 5mg per day


beartooth
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   Posted 9/29/2008 4:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Emory,

I am so happy for you for going on a stream stroll. Plus you had adult company, and I'm guessing you weren't thinking constantly about your UC. Congrats. The final piece is that you are finally starting to get semi-formed stools, which I always see as a good sign in me. Keep doing whatever it is you've been doing, and I'll bet some relief is on the way. Take care.
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06 - currently flaring
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort retention fluid, Prednisone 15mg and tapering down


emory
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Total Posts : 327
   Posted 9/29/2008 9:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Sheep poo -- I like that. And I hadn't really thought about there being actual fecal matter in those pebbles -- just assumed it was all blood and mucus. Thanks, tums!

Brandon, yes, the stream stroll was awesome. Hope you also found some way to enjoy the outdoors this weekend -- unless you were working the whole time. (But you're outside then, too, right?) Take care yourself --

emory
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008 (after 5 weeks of blood and mucous) and still flaring
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg (or more) and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Trying acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


quincy
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Total Posts : 30389
   Posted 9/29/2008 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
emory...sounds like you're eating well..sounds yummy!

I'm doing well except hurt my back while taking out the vacuum cleaner...I keep telling my husband it's not good for me to vacuum (yes, he usually does it anyway)..
I even had to cancel a doctor appointment because I couldn't get ready for it..I'm walking around with a support brace and a cane...sigh.

I'm sick of all the other crappola (and I just went to the chiro on Friday)...Robaxin/Robaxacet are what I'm using, hope tomorrow is a better day (especially since I have no clients and was going to catch up on other stuff)....but the butt, she is good..

quincy


*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


emory
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 327
   Posted 9/29/2008 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, back pain is so miserable! I hope tomorrow is a better day for you (feel a little like Scarlett O'Hara or Little Orphan Annie for saying that).

"...but the butt, she is good.." Can't wait 'til I can claim the same!

Take care, quincy --
emory
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008 (after 5 weeks of blood and mucous) and still flaring
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg (or more) and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Trying acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


Luna0
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Total Posts : 83
   Posted 9/29/2008 3:31 PM (GMT -6)   
YaY someone finnaly said it. This really is a graphic disease. I never liked wonder bread by the way.
Red_34 said...
Ah there goes my appetite for my Wonder bread toast in the morning! Just kidding smilewinkgrin   Please never apologize for any graphic description here on the Uc forum.  That is the nature of our disease and there is no way around it. 


Tawn 
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Diagnosed in 2004
Currently on:
Remicade
Imuran 3pills/day
And many other over the counter meds.

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