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happyliving
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   Posted 10/3/2008 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Helo All,
 
I have been suffereing with UC since Jun 2006.
Right now I'm taking 4 Lialda/day and Canasa every other day.
Additionally i started taking priobiotics(2 billions / each pill) 3 times a day.
Some days are fine with out any blood.......But sometimes i notice a very tiny amount of blood. I'm noticing the food that is triggering, but couldn't find a specific pattern exaclty...but seriously some foods bothers me like pop corn,cofee,meat,corn soups,pizza,cheese and any kind of spicy stuff.
But food is definelty to be considered as one of the factor of UC..
Is this normal to see some blood occasionally?
I don't have any pain or urgency now like I suffered before...
I'm little bit scared that it is happening to me only....
 
Please please advise and let me know if i need to make any changes in my lifestyle or food...
 
Thanks and waiting for all your suggestions and responses......
 
Have a nice weekend
 

Christine1946
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   Posted 10/3/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   

     Food, most definitely, can trigger upsets with UC.  The foods you say are bothering you...I was told to avoid at all costs.  I also have diverticulosis and pop corn, corn, and seeds  really do a number on that.  Best to follow a low residue diet, at least until symptoms of UC have ceased.

     With this flare, which, by the way I have been in since April.  The only thing that stops the bleeding is the prednisone.  Hate to be on it this long and the doctor sure isn't happy about it either, but it beats bleeding all over the bathroom floor.


62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Still flaring.   Afraid that I am pred dependant.  Back on Pred 40 mgm for five days, then taper.  Other meds...Colazal, 6MP, Nexium, Cort enemas, Canasa suppository, Benicar, Toprol xl, water pill.
Calcium, Probiotic, Flaxseed oil capsule, multivitamin with Iron
Also have osteoporosis and high blood pressure
Remicade NOT an option. Not a candidate for surgery yet..says surgeon.


mh53mike
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   Posted 10/3/2008 3:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Try increasing your probiotics i take 50 billion cfu of acidophilus and 50 billion cfu of bifidobacterium daily. 6 billion cfu a day may not be enough for you, dont be scared to increase it to find the results that suit you best, thats what i had to do. More importantly fix your diet to allow the probiotics to work. Reduce if not stop your sugar and carb intake. Try to start a diet sort of like SCD, or high protien, low carbs.

26y old male medically disharged USAF veteran.Diagnosed with UC (lower proctitis) in 2004.
 
Current daily treatment:                               Probiotics & supplements:
                                         50 Billion CFU's acidopholis&Bifidobacterium daily
2400mg oral asacol                                      Digestive enzymes
15mg prednisone tapering                             5grams of glutamine
75mg azathioprine                                       folic acid & calcuim with V-D
20mg Nexum                                               Whey protien  
 
Diet:Little/no sugars, fats, carbs, caffine,sugars,yeast. Stay natural as possible.  
 
Results:1 Bowel movement in the morning no blood! Remission since 08Sept08


beartooth
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   Posted 10/3/2008 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Something that has helped me is to keep a food journal. Write down what you eat everyday and how feel/symptoms over the next 24 hours. Most of the foods you listed tend to upset my system, but only when eaten in excess. Hopefully you can figure out what is the culprit and then get back to eating w'o worries. Best of luck.
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort enema, Prednisone (trying to taper down)


jujub
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   Posted 10/3/2008 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Blood is never normal. But if it's intermittent, only a small amount and you're doing well otherwise, it could be from hemorrhoids.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Avascular necrosis in both shoulders is my "forever" gift from Entocort.
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri. In remission since April, 2006.
 
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Gigi1227
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   Posted 10/4/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Food most definitely is a trigger for me.  For example, I had some chili the other night, knew I shouldn't, but I couldn't resist w/ the cooler temps.  Am still suffering - no blood, but do have the D and feel bloated and nauseated. 
 
Gigi1227
Diagnosised 8/25/08 GRRR
 
Canasa
Asacol
Multi Enzyme
Mega Probiotic
Psyllium
Fiber Wafer
Nictotine Patch
Fish Oil Pill
 
Feel like I am headed into remission! 


happyliving
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   Posted 10/5/2008 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All,

It may be a strange question for you....
Actually after i started my probiotics, i noticed a weight loss of 6-7 pounds...
Not sure whether it is due to usage of probiotics or something else is causing this.
Is there any possibility of Weight Loss due to probiotics?

Please correct me if I'm thinking wrong..

quincy
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   Posted 10/5/2008 11:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Food doesn't cause flares....and anyone who eats chili will have gas and bloating. That may be a trigger for expected discomfort, not for UC. If you're flaring, you'll feel it more...it won't make your UC worse.

q
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/6/2008 12:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Regarding weightloss...some people limit their food intake, and if there is frequency or urgency, many will lose weight in both respects.

Probiotics won't cause you to lose weight unless it helps digestion and allows you to utilise food better (rather than the body perceiving that it's in a starvation mode to retain as much weight as possible if all nutrients are going through unutilised..

Were you overweight or underweight before losing the weight?

Have you changed your eating habits?

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


pb4
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   Posted 10/6/2008 12:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I wouldn't say "anyone who eats chili will get gas and bloating", I know tons of people (myself included) that can eat chili and not be affected by it, everyone reacts (or not) differently to different things.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


mh53mike
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   Posted 10/6/2008 1:11 AM (GMT -6)   
happy ,
 
Yes you can have weight lose with probiotics. This happens if your intestinal flora is out of balance to begin with and over run by bad bacteria or yeast which promote weight gain.  Introducing good bacteria will battle the bad bacteria and attempt to promote bettter digestion overall. Better digestion and breakdown of foods promotes weight loss.
 
I lost 5-6 pounds fairly quick like in a week and a half with probiotics. I also felt great and less bloated and more trim in the mid section so i knew it was all for the better and it didnt worry me at all.  You should be able to tell if its healthy wieight loss better than any of us.
26y old male medically disharged USAF veteran.Diagnosed with UC (lower proctitis) in 2004.
 
Current daily treatment:                               Probiotics & supplements:
                                         50 Billion CFU's acidopholis&Bifidobacterium daily
2400mg oral asacol                                      Digestive enzymes
15mg prednisone tapering                             5grams of glutamine
75mg azathioprine                                       folic acid & calcuim with V-D
20mg Nexum                                               Whey protien  
 
Diet:Little/no sugars, fats, carbs, caffine,sugars,yeast. Stay natural as possible.  
 
Results:1 Bowel movement in the morning no blood! Remission since 08Sept08


quincy
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   Posted 10/6/2008 2:04 AM (GMT -6)   
pb4 said...
I wouldn't say "anyone who eats chili will get gas and bloating", I know tons of people (myself included) that can eat chili and not be affected by it, everyone reacts (or not) differently to different things.

:)

I'll start with turn and smilewinkgrin with a few more :-)   :-)  
 
I wouldn't say "tons" of people aren't affected by chili...could be dependent on who the cook is and what ingredients are or aren't included.
 
OK...I'll say many people who eat chili will have some form of discomfort ....that could start anywhere along the digestion route from intake to outpoop oops..output.
 
q
 
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


happyliving
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Total Posts : 166
   Posted 10/6/2008 7:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Helo Quincy/All,

I'm weighing 129 pounds and my height is 5'9'' before i started probiotics.
Now my weight is 122 pounds...
But i see a lot of difference after i started probiotics. Urgency and pain is controlled.
Not sure whether to continue or stop......
Just concerned if it causes more weight loss or is there any possibility of weight gain?

Please advise..........and Have a great day

Gigi1227
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   Posted 10/6/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
For some the chili may not bother your UC. In my case it did - I have found spicy foods will aggrevate my UC - I become nauseated w/ cramping and D. For the most part I stay away from them, but then I am human too and need to satisfy some desires!

Gigi1227
Diagnosised 8/25/08 GRRR
Started flare mid-May/feeling better but still flaring
 
Canasa
Asacol
Multi Enzyme
Mega Probiotic
Psyllium
Fiber Wafer
Nictotine Patch
Fish Oil Pill
Multi Vitamin
 
 


beartooth
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   Posted 10/6/2008 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Weight loss might be a concern for you, but if the pro-biotics are helping with the rest of your symptoms, why stop using them? The whole point of using probiotics is to help your system regain a healthy balance. Most probiotics require that you continue using them, or the good bacteria leave your system, and the bad ones take over again. You might be able to reduce your dosage, but don't stop altogether. Odds are good that the weight loss will be temporary, and you'll be able to regain some weight soon. Or you could always try some of those protein shakes that help people bulk up (unless of course the shakes cause a recurrence of your symptoms!).
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort enema, Prednisone (trying to taper down)


happyliving
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   Posted 10/6/2008 9:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Brandon
 
I'm using just 2 Billion acidophillus pills 3 times a day..Not sure if it is a heavy dosage...
But surely i noticed a difference and improvement in the symptoms of UC after i started them..
So i don't want to stop Probiotics as long as they don't harm me or give any -ve effects..
 
I'm using sundown brand....www.sundownnutrition.com
 
Please advise if there is any other prodcuts that you guys recommend.......
 
Thanks !! Very much for all your feedback
 
 

beartooth
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   Posted 10/6/2008 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Happyliving,

What a great name, I've got to say. Inspirational.

I'm not sure what a heavy dose of pro-bs is either. I do know that whenever I'm trying a new one, I usually end up taking more than the directions say to. Try looking at people's signatures for ideas on what others are taking. There are so many different ones out there. If you are independently wealthy, I'd recommend VSL#3, it is working wonders for me. But I'm not independently wealthy, so once I get my flare under control, I plan to try something else.

As you start feeling better, are you planning on updating your screen name? Good luck and I hope things keep getting better for you.
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort enema, Prednisone (trying to taper down)


DDR11
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   Posted 10/6/2008 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   

I take Lacto-Flam-X.  18 Billion/capsul.  2 capsuls/day.  I see both a conventional doctor and a naturopath.  Of course, my conventional doctor doesn't want me taking any probiotics at all, because they are not regulated or approved by the FDA.  However, I am still taking them.  I think they have made an impact, it's just really hard at this point to know what of the gizillion things I am doing is actually doing it.  I am eating almost a strictly vegitarian, dairy and gluten free diet.  I quit drinking coffee last year in December and don't drink alcohol any longer. (Not that I was a lush by any means, but I did enjoy a glass of wine with dinner occassionally).  I do my best to avoid sugar in foods as much as possible and have been taking the probiotics and two other gastro intestinal supplements.  Not to mention the Prednisone since May, Asacol and Rowasa.  I haven't had discomfort, cramping, bloating or pain in nearly 8 weeks, however I did have some slight streaking of blood last weekend for about three days.  But for the last 5 days all has been good.  I am going to wait until this Sunday and make sure there is not more blood before tapering down the Prednisone another 2.5mg. 

Danni


Have had UC since 1998.  Experienced first flare shortly after the birth of my oldest son.
Age: 36
Mother of two wonderful sons, two stepsons and a beautiful stepdaughter.
 
Current Meds:
Prednisone:  27.5mg
Imuran:  100mg
Rowasa: Nightly
Asocol:  3600mg/day
 
Natural Remedies:
Lacto-Flam-x - Probiotic
Glutegenics - Gastro Intestinal Support
Endafen - Gastro Intestinal Support
Cal Apitate - Calcium Supplement
 


pb4
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   Posted 10/6/2008 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
pb4 said...

I wouldn't say "anyone who eats chili will get gas and bloating", I know tons of people (myself included) that can eat chili and not be affected by it, everyone reacts (or not) differently to different things.

:)


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I wouldn't say "tons" of people aren't affected by chili...could be dependent on who the cook is and what ingredients are or aren't included.



OK...I'll say many people who eat chili will have some form of discomfort ....that could start anywhere along the digestion route from intake to outpoop oops..output.



q



Yes, I'll accept that many may have issues (IBD or not), just not "all" and of course many :-) :-) :-) back at ya!!! LOL!
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


happyliving
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   Posted 10/6/2008 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All,

I'm confused by reading this..

http://ezinearticles.com/?Try-Probiotics-For-Healthy-Weight-Loss&id=558177

It says probiotics helps in reducing weight...I'm already under weight for my height and lost even some pounds after started taking them...

If this is the case how can i put on weight once again .........

I need to gain weight and trying all the means to acheive this..
At the same time i need to control and maintain my UC symptoms which I'm getting using probiotics..

At this junture what can i do to balance this up?

By the way one more question i bought peanut butter today and trying to eat this with white bread to gain some weight..Is this helpful.....
Did anybody faced problems after eating peanut butter?

Your advises are highly appreciated........

Thanks in advance

kazzaz
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   Posted 10/7/2008 12:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Some peoples colons gets irritated if you eat corn or spicy food, but some dont. In your case apparently it does get irritated, so i would stop eating spicy foods and corn. By the way, how long has it been since you've noticed the tiny bit of blood in the stool, maybe your beginning to flare?
15yr old male
diagnosed january 04
4pills of lialda a day
canasa
worm therapy every 2 weeks
remicade (taken about 10 times or more)


pb4
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   Posted 10/7/2008 12:39 AM (GMT -6)   
happyliving :)

I think because for those who have issues with their thyroid as stated in the article you posted>>>>Probiotics for weight loss also helps the thyroid gland which in turn helps the digestive system. This gives people with thyroid problems a much needed helping hand in losing their excess weight.>>>>>

That's likey what they may be referring to when it comes to probiotics and weight loss...I've been taking probiotics daily for the last 4ish yrs and have not lost any weight as a result....but the probiotics (along with some other naturals that I take) sure have helped with my IBS and crohn's symptoms compared to before I was taking it (and the other naturals that I take).

I wouldn't be concerned about taking probiotics and losing weight.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

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