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damo123
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   Posted 10/10/2008 9:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I might have asked something like this before.
 
For people who have upper GI issues with UC, like GERD or food intolerances etc, do you think these issues a) are independent of UC b) caused by your UC c) caused your UC.
 
The genetic model of UC would imply the answer is a) or perhaps b). But there seems to be an awful lot of us on here with upper GI issues on top of UC. Way more then there should be if the genetic model is (fully) correct.
Probiotics and maintenance 5ASA's in rectal form
 
"Whatever you do in life don't berate yourself too much nor contragulate yourself too much. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody elses'"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


madabs
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   Posted 10/10/2008 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
For myself, knowing next to nothing of the genetic model of UC, I have always felt that my stomach issues were separate from my UC. Gastritis and Reflux run in the family.

My GI thinks otherwise and believes stomach problems are involved in UC. In fact, when I asked him to prescribe something for my stomach, he refused, stating that if we mask the stomach symptoms we won't know if they get better when my UC gets better. He also told me that being sick causes anxiety and that anxiety can cause stomach upset. I am still mad at him for that.

I had a clear upper endoscopy three years ago, so I can almost see his point, but my UC has improved a lot yet I have to take prilosec everyday and often still take malox and rantidine on top of it.
UC diagnosed 10/05, first symptoms 1983
asacol 12/daily and rowasa as needed 
Trying out Culturelle Probiotic
past rx: colozal, lialda, canasa
i can't complain, but sometimes i still do.  lifes been good to me so far.  -joe walsh


Beth75
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   Posted 10/10/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I think A but, I never really had these problems till I got UC. Could just be coicidence b/c I am getting older? Good question.
Beth, 33 ~ hoping to taper pred successfully, wish me luck!
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07
UC dx'd 03/00 (Proctosigmoiditis); Pancolitis since 09/07
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Prilosec, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd 09/07. Close to remission since 9/08.
Prednisone 5mg/2.5mg alt days 1xday, Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Tekturna 300mg 1xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.  Do you have edema? If so, check your blood protien level!
 


kops2da
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   Posted 10/10/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   

I believe separate but not sure.  I have had GERD and hiatel hernia for about 30 years and recently diagnosed with UC after rectal bleeding for first time in my life. 

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


robray
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   Posted 10/10/2008 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering this same question. If it is 'b' then that is another plus for having surgery.

If you are taking a poll I would be leaning towards 'a'. My reasons for this are my GERD issues seem to come from my Dad's side of the family and it actually caused my Grandmother's death. Due to acid reflux, her esophagus was so rotten by her 60's that it was fusing shut and then they perforated it when they tried to open it. The UC comes from my Mom's side. Lucky me I got all the problems.
UC (Pancolitis) diagnosed in 1992. Medications: Dipentum, Pariet


damo123
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   Posted 10/10/2008 11:34 AM (GMT -6)   
which leads so the converse question..... To those of you who had surgery, did your upper GI issues (if you had them) eventually disappear too after surgery
Probiotics and maintenance 5ASA's in rectal form
 
"Whatever you do in life don't berate yourself too much nor contragulate yourself too much. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody elses'"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


potty girl
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   Posted 10/10/2008 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I get the Gerd from my dads side, I mean everyone on his side has it some of them sense they where 4 and 5 years. The UC comes from my moms side. And the heart problems come from both. In my case I think it is unrelated but who knows.
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synthroid .088 mg, lowpressor 50 mg x 2, cozaar 25mg x2, imdur 30 mg
nitroquick, proventol, plavix 75 mg, protonix 40 mg x 2, asacal 400mg x 9
carafate 1 gm x 4, zyrtec 10 mg, rhinocort aqua nose spray, fish oil,
potassium.


princesa
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   Posted 10/10/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
D) None of the above.

My theory is both upper GI issues like reflux and lower GI issues like IBS and IBD are caused primarily by a lack of healthy gut ecology that enables normal digestion (too many bad gut bugs, not enough good ones) and is compounded by constant consumption of a very poor diet that creates a vicious cycle.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


mh53mike
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   Posted 10/10/2008 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe that gerd and UC may go hand in hand. I had the gerd and heart burn way before the UC. I truly think that UC is nothing more than the fact that your digestive system has been let go for too long and now your immune system is invovled with trying to correct it. By let go i believe its a combination of poor diet habits, possible anitbiotic bacterial kill off, and a stressfull lifestyle. I have read bad bacterial overgrowth can cause upper digestive issues such as gerd, in turn most people use anti-acids or PPI's. Reducing acid content promotes bacterial growth. Our bodies PH lvl's keeps bacteria in check and if we supress it, it only leaves me to one conclusion.

For my own personal research I am maintaining remission through probiotics and will slowly tapper off all my meds. This includes my nexum. Iwant to see what happens really.
26y old male medically disharged USAF veteran.Diagnosed with UC (lower proctitis) in 2004.
 
Current daily treatment:                               Probiotics & supplements:
                                         50 Billion CFU's acidopholis&Bifidobacterium daily
2400mg oral asacol                                      Digestive enzymes
10mg prednisone tapering                             5grams of glutamine
75mg azathioprine                                       folic acid & calcuim with V-D
20mg Nexum                                               Whey protien  
                                                                Multivitamin
Diet:Little/no sugars, fats, carbs, caffine,sugars,yeast. Stay natural as possible.  
 
Results:1 Bowel movement in the morning no blood! Remission since 08Sept08


Red_34
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   Posted 10/11/2008 7:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I believe - at least for me - that it is a seperate issue. I had Uc already for 14 years before I started developing stomach issues. I personally blame my medications - particularly 6mp. My stomach issues didn't start until I started taking 6mp. Now if I miss any doses of Prilosec, I am in a lot of pain and the nausea is unreal!
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kops2da
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   Posted 10/11/2008 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   

So, Sherry, in your opinion, if I should have to try 6MP my stomach issues may get worse.  I already take Prilosec and sometimes Rolaids - I have GERD and a small hiatel hernia.  I hope it is not something I have to "look forward to".  So far the one Lialda and one Canasa is helping slowly along with the probiotics and eating lowfat, less sugar and caffeine.  At this low medication it may take along time but I don't mind if I gradually get better without side effects from medication.  I have a scope on October 28 which  will tell how things are going.

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Red_34
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   Posted 10/11/2008 8:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Elaine, it's one of those things. Some may develop stomach issues from their medication and some don't. For me, when I started on 6mp I developed stomach issues - it could've been a coincidence but I don't think so since I've had other little odd issues pop up after starting on 6mp. I'm glad that the meds seem be doing it's job. It's horrible when you feel so rotten and the med options are limited.
 @--->--SHERRY--<---@
Moderator for Allergies/Asthma and Co-moderator for UC
~Left sided Uc-'92-Colazal(9 daily),6mp(50-100mgs),Prilosec,Biotin,Forvia,Pro-Bio**Unable to tolerate Asacol, Rowasa or Canasa**~Year-round allergies-Singulair, Zyrtec~Secondary Reynauds Syndrome-'04-Norvasc~Spinal Stenosis(?)~Sacroiliitis-epidural injections~bulging and herniated discs C5/C6 & C6/C7~3rd epidural injection 9/4, Neurontin and Skelaxin
To help Healingwell - click here: DONATE
 
 
 
 

 
 

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