Anyone else get all their daily BM's in space of couple hours?

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Probiotic
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   Posted 10/17/2008 5:47 PM (GMT -6)   
For those of you with a higher than normal (higher than "normie") number of bowel movements a day, just wondering how many of you get them all (3-6 usually) in the space of a couple hours (well, let's say 1-3 hours).  I am in a flare and I am not getting formed stool, but even when symptoms were very mild and stools were well formed (if big marble sized rabbit pellets and/or piles of "mud" are considered formed, anyway, lol), my BM's tend to all cluster in a 1-3 hour period.  It used to be after breakfast, but now it is late in the evening around bedtime.  Poop, leave the bathroom, go back 5-20 minutes later again, repeat a few times, then repeat the cycle the next day.  Of course, were I to use immodium or glutamine or something, or modify my meal times, or eat less, I could modify the timing, but either way they all come in these clusters.


Pancolitis 20 years ago, full med-free remission 10 years,
Flaring/simmering on and off ever since
10 20 17.5 15 12.5 10 mg 8 7.5 20 mg pred, 100 mg Imuran
Probiotics (Primal Defense and others), TSO, hookworm
Turmeric/circuminboswellia, fish oil, many vits/minerals
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pb4
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   Posted 10/17/2008 6:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Usually that's how it is for me but during *just before, during and after* that time of month it can bother me again during the evening even if I've had my typical amount first thing in the early day.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


kops2da
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   Posted 10/17/2008 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   

YUP - now mornings!  Since getting some control - 1 or 2 BM's (maybe 3) they are all in about 2 hours of morning and then no more until next day.  I use Canasa at night - so first morning BM is "leftovers" of Canasa - second and if a third - formed with blood in bottom of toilet.  That is it most days.  Just be happy not to see the blood but that seems a little less.  I just have to be sure to get up early if I need to be out very early.

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/18/2008 3:06 AM (GMT -6)   
you should get yourself on rectal meds. Imodium won't help the inflammation that's causing the bms. It'll give you a false sense of control....considering it's the rectum that's causing you the problems if the stool is pellets.

Fibre supplements will bulk the stool up and help to lessen some of the transit time.

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Mitzo
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   Posted 10/18/2008 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I 95% of the time have all the BMs and D withing about 2 hours of waking up in the morning. It is as if the previous day's digestion fights to get out as fast as it can. 2-5 BMs, and then calm. It means I always wake up extra early before doing anything requiring leaving the house, and that travelling with others or, god forbid, having house guests or staying at someone else's home, are terrifying prospects.

21 years of UC which started after quitting smoking. In and out of flares which are usually triggered by antibiotics. Latest issue is endless diarrhea without blood or mucous.

 

  • 2 500mg Pentasa a day
  • Psyllium powder
  • Culturelle probiotic


kops2da
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   Posted 10/18/2008 11:36 AM (GMT -6)   

I agree BUT - quincy, when you are out of control - need to be out and about Imodium is a life saver.  I kept my problems (not knowing it was UC, if is was) under control for almost a year with Imodium and pepto bismal.  I assumed it was my IBS which I have had for many years but doc thinks it was UC all the time.  I did not have a new scope or use any medication for almost a year due to my husband treatments for lung cancer.  I knew I would have side effects so stuck with Imodium and pepto and eating what I knew I could eat without getting sick.  I don't recommend it - however, Imodium is prescribed by my gastro doc for many of his patients. 

I think the best thing I have found for diarrhea (or just soft stool) is probiotics - I take Align right now.  Immediately firmed up my stool.  I am so senstive to everything my gastro doc does not want me to try anything more than 5ASA's unless I do not get results.  Right now I am on ONE Lialda a day and Canasa suppositories and having side effects which I am "dealing" with.(early morning sweating/chills/nausea/fatigue and sometimes arms aching)  I promised I would until my scope on Oct. 28.  Going pretty good - no worse anyway - firm two or three stools a day with thick bloody mucous (not much).  I do use Imodium when I have to go out - especially early mornings.  I take 1/2.  At my age - if it is not spreading I would be happy to control it with Imodium and probiotics the rest of my life.  It quiets and diarrhea and cramping. 

Just my experience for those who are interested.

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/19/2008 2:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Imodium has its place....absolutely....Elaine, you seem to be in a different situation, older and seemingly sensitive to 5ASA meds.
We all have to function and you aren't abusing the Imodium, still taking your meds and not getting worse at least.



Fibre supplements could be helpful as well as probiotics .... but if one is having that many bms in a short span, one is flaring. And considering in a flare, the rectum will be inflamed...rectal meds is the best bet.

Probiotic....try and eat as normally as possible...the colon still needs its exercise, you need nutrients to heal.
You could eat smaller meals but more often throughout the day.

Rectal meds in 5-ASA, hydrocortisone....liquid, foam, suppositories. A few options to try...same old suggestion...

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


beartooth
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   Posted 10/19/2008 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Again, wise words from quincy. Immodium is an absolute last resort for me. I had to take one last week, and my body is still trying to get back to normal.

Getting back on track, my movements come in groups of 2-3, usually either after waking up, or an hour after my first meal. Go once, then go again about 30 minutes later. My flare is pretty much calmed down now, but when it was in full rage, there was no rhyme or reason to them then. It was just "Go now!", sometimes within minutes of my last trip to the wc.
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC back in May '06
Meds & supplements:  Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Colocort enema every other night, Prednisone (down to 5mg, YAY!), flaxseed oil, glucosamine.


kops2da
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   Posted 10/19/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   

Of course all our systoms are different.  As stated - I am OLD - well, older than most here anyway - and my system has been around the block - hee hee!!

I would never abuse any medication - only take 1/2 Imodium at a time and 1/2 a Xanax.  I NEVER have had any problems with Imodium - no problem getting back to "normal" (whatever that is at the time).  It calms down the D and the cramping so I can leave the house or go where a bathroom is not close by.  My biggest problem is not drinking enough - I know it and can't seem to do any better.  Drinking without food makes me very nauseated so I don't just drink like I should.

Yes, sensitive to 5ASA but the Canasa suppositories seem to help a little with no side effects.  I am going to one Lialda every other day today and calling my NP this week.  I woke up so sick at 3 a.m. until about 6.  Took pepto bismal and Xanax and finally got back to sleep until 10 and woke up hunger.  After eating my usual toast w/pb and one cup of coffee I had my usual two BM's and feel pretty good now - just very tired!! Is there a chance the Lialda (and the Colazal I tried before) might dissolve in my stomach instead of the colon as it is supposed to?  Stool is firm but still have blood mixed in - stays about same amount. Left-side pain is definitely better.  I have a scope scheduled for Oct. 28.

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 10/19/2008 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Do remember that Pepto has bi****h subsalicylate....which is a salicylate.

I would still ask your doctor to have you checked for microscopic colitis...since the Pepto seems to work for you.

quincy


*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 4th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 4(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 

Post Edited (quincy) : 10/19/2008 9:00:47 PM (GMT-6)


JOVIGIRL71
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   Posted 10/19/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
I also have all my bm's first thing when I wake up. I think its the shock of your system waking up then all the food from the day before. I am in and out of the bathroom a good 4-7 times depending on the day.
I have alwys wondered about this. Thank you for asking

Donna :-)
~~ Donna ~~
 
Diagnosed with UC in 1987 at age 16
Imuran ~ 2 1/2 pills a day,Pentasa 2x4 a day
Lexapro ~ 20 mgs daily for sanity  :-)
 


kops2da
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   Posted 10/19/2008 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   

Yes, I am aware that pepto has same ingredients as aspirin and 5ASAs.  I ask doctor about that and he said to use only occasionally for nausea.  I only take it for nausea.  I don't have diarrhea - have not for weeks!

I read about symptoms of microscopic colitis and agree that pepto would help with diarrhea but I don't have any.  The doctor told me he took several samples for biopsy throughout my colon and tested for celiac and cancer - all were negative - that was in June. 

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
10/3/2008 - agreed to try one Lialda and one Canasa every day due to my sensitivity to all medications and side effects. Colonoscopy 10/28 to reaccess.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension,Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


NMcP
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Total Posts : 212
   Posted 10/19/2008 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Count me in on the multiple-poops-per-morning club. Maybe my problem is that I am impatient in the morning to "get it all out". I do my business, continue getting ready to face the day, then when nature calls, I go again. Other than the amount of times I go, everything else is normal (formed stools, no blood or mucous, etc).
Age: 48
location: Seattle, Wa
currently in small flare, tail end of colon
Diagnosed with UC in June 2006
Medications: Asacol 3 pills 3 x/day, Cortifoam at bedtime, Canansa in the morning
No. of colonoscopies: 1
Originally diagnosed with moderate UC, pancolitis


jars05
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Total Posts : 297
   Posted 10/19/2008 10:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah in the morning it can do that to me. 1-3 bms between 8am and 12:00pm.
Age: 30
Sex: Yes please!
Location: Missouri
Diagnosed with UC in 1997.
Medications: 100 mg Azathioprine a day, Mesa rectal meds
Supplements: calcium, and multivitamin
No. of colonoscopies: 5
Last scope: 6/7/08-everything looked ok.
 
 

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