FLU Vaccine - on Azathioprine, will this make me flare

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tums
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   Posted 11/20/2008 4:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I am currently taking 100mg Azathioprine and my GP doctor advised best that I get the flu vaccine (I have never had it before) so last Thurs I got the flu vaccine in one arm and the pneumonia vaccine in the other. Well since Monday my colitis seems to be getting progressively worse.  Has anyone else experienced this or do you know if this could be linked to a flare? Thanks
32 year old female
UC diagnosed 2001
Asacol 6 per day
Azathioprine 100mg started 4/08
Steroids 5mg per day


teddybearweiser
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   Posted 11/20/2008 4:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I get the flu shot every year. And I have no problems with my Crohn's.

TBW
Hi, I am teddybearweiser, I am a male.
I was diagnosed with crohns disease when i was admitted to the hospital

in 1992, in Jan of 1993 I was back in the hospital for surgery for my crohns. I had part of my right colon resectioned with ilecolonstomy.

My GI doctor has me on Asacol, Dicyclomine,Imuran,Celebrex and Remicade. B-12 injection once a month.
Also diagnosed with Osteoarthritis and Rheumatoid Arthritis


JonnyBoy68
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   Posted 11/20/2008 4:42 AM (GMT -6)   
tums said...
Hi, I am currently taking 100mg Azathioprine and my GP doctor advised best that I get the flu vaccine (I have never had it before) so last Thurs I got the flu vaccine in one arm and the pneumonia vaccine in the other. Well since Monday my colitis seems to be getting progressively worse.  Has anyone else experienced this or do you know if this could be linked to a flare? Thanks

Hi,
 
I am on similar meds to you and relapse practically every year, once I'm off the preds.  I started taking 100mg Azathioprine this summer, so was invited for a free flu jab at the GP.  This was my 1st ever flu jab and I had it done with some trepidation.
 
I did take the day off work, basically to rest while the vaccine kicked in.  I didn't take a pneumonia vaccine though - it was never offered to me.  I don't know if I was lucky or not but my UC did not react. 
 
I would hazard a guess that the combination of both vaccines together on the same day may have kicked in the UC.  That's quite a lot of vaccine for your body to deal with in one go.  But then again, I'm no doctor.
 
Sorry to hear that you had a flare up but I think it is symptomatic of UC that it strikes in different ways for different people.
 
Hope you recover soon from this flare up. wink
 

JonnyBoy68
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   Posted 11/20/2008 4:42 AM (GMT -6)   
tums said...
Hi, I am currently taking 100mg Azathioprine and my GP doctor advised best that I get the flu vaccine (I have never had it before) so last Thurs I got the flu vaccine in one arm and the pneumonia vaccine in the other. Well since Monday my colitis seems to be getting progressively worse.  Has anyone else experienced this or do you know if this could be linked to a flare? Thanks

Triple post - arrrgh mad mad

ldarcy
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   Posted 11/20/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   

I asked my GI yesterday about the flu vaccine - he didn't recommend it.  He said my immune system is already good - too good in fact - that's why I have UC!   It seemed to go against the advice of people on this board, but since I'm so new to UC I'm inclined to do as he says and see how it goes!   You should let your doctor know how it's affected you.  I hope you're feeling better soon!

 


Ldarcy
45, female
Diagnosed September 2008
Asocol (2 - 3 times / day)
 
 


basa0806
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   Posted 11/20/2008 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I had the flu shot last week because I'm living in the dorms with a ton of people. I've had the flu shot every year since I was a kid and it didn't bother me then and it doesn't know. The way I look at it is that I would rather get the shot then get the flu which no doubt would put me into a flare.
Sam
19 year old college student diagnosed with ulcerative colitis at 16
Remission since January/April 2006
400mg Asacol 2x, 10mg Elavil, 75mg Effexor XR for GAD

"If you don't like something change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude"
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suebear
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   Posted 11/20/2008 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
The flu vaccine is a dead virus, I don't think it would cause a flare. I don't get them but just for the reason that I am too lazy and cheap. I imagine if I got the flu I would change my mind!

Sue
dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998

1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


Mommy pooh
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   Posted 11/20/2008 10:39 AM (GMT -6)   
My GI insists on the flu shot for all patients with weak immune systems whether from steriods or 6MP. I have gotten it with no problems since my first round of Pred. in 2004. My husband and daughter get it too.
  • 25 years old, married, Mommy to 22 mo. old 
  • Ulcerative Colitis since Sept. 2004
    • 1st flare Sept-Nov 2004
    • 2nd flare Aug. 2007-July 08 
  • Currently taking:75mg 6MP, 4 Lialda, Digestive Advantage Chrons/Colitis, Loestrin 24, and allergy shots once a month 
  • Past meds: Pred., Entocort, Dipentum, Asacol, and Canassa
  • 10/6/08 Found a 1cm kidney stone in right kidney.  Had the stone blasted and passed the fragments.

 


Nor_TX
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   Posted 11/20/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   

My doctor insisted on a double flu shot.  He said that with the Remicade and Methotrexate my immune system is so low that he prefers his patients get a double dose.  Have to wait and see if it really prevents the flu.  Last year I got a pneumonia shot and still got a very bad case of pneumonia - had to take 2 weeks off of work - was out of sick days so I lost those wages.

 


Probiotic
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   Posted 11/21/2008 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I haven't had a flu shot in years but used to years back, and I have never noticed any correlation between getting/not getting the flu shot and getting the flu, but I did flare once a bit after getting a flu shot so I am not so sure I believe in them being safe, even with a dead virus. It seems extremely hit and miss when it comes to which strains they choose each year- more often than not miss. If you google and pubmed flu vaccines there is some paradoxical data- eg one that showed elderly people who got flu shots actually got more flu, not less. There is of course also data supporting flu shots, so all I'm saying is the case is not cut and dried in my view. I also tend to agree with the GI who says our immune systems are hyper, and even on immune modulators we may not therefore be more susceptible to colds/flus than the average normie.


Pancolitis 20 years ago, full med-free remission 10 years,
Flaring/simmering on and off ever since, allergic to all 5ASAs
10 20 17.5 15 12.5 10 mg 8 7.5 20 17.5 mg pred, 100 mg Imuran
TCM, Probiotics (Primal Defense and others), DMSO, TSO, hookworm
Turmeric/circuminboswellia, fish oil, many vits/minerals
Lower-carb version of Specific Carb Diet (SCD), Remicade newbie
 
 
 

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