....effectively treat chronic ulcerative colitis ???

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kazygirl
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   Posted 12/8/2008 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I met a lady today who does acupuncture and traditional chinese therapy...
 
i have always been a skeptic of this as i dont like it when i go in for a treatment and they tell me that i have to come back for virtually the rest of my life and pay a fortune to see any benefits.
((( warning bells!! ))))
 
but this lady did her thesis on ulcerative colitis and has found this to be a huge benefit to everyone she has ever treated with UC.
 
i havent tried it as of yet, but thought you may find it interesting.
i found it interesting and will chat with her about it a bit more and keep you posted if your interested.
 
this is the link
A clinical histological study done at Shanghai Acupuncture and Meridian Institute, in which tissue samples of colon mucus were stained with HE staining, HID-AB and AB-PAS mucin staining and observed under a microscope, showed that moxibustion at acupuncture points St 36, Ren 12, and Ren 6 could effectively treat chronic ulcerative colitis. The results showed that chronic mucositis (inflammation of the mucous layer of the intestinal wall) was decreased, neutrophil infiltration in epithelial cells disappeared, and crypt abscess and/or mucous ulceration were eliminated.
moxibustion is what she suggested in particular.   doing a google search on it now
steph - 32 - female - gold coast australia - UC since 2000
severe UC in descending colon and sigmoid colon ONLY
mesalazine granules 3g x1 a day (much nicer than a million tablets a day)
prednisolone 25mg x1 a day (ick ick and did i say ick?)
enteric coated fish oil -omega 3 (so they get all the way to my colon)
vitamin D3 x1 a day
tumeric capsules - if i remember to take the bloody things.
i still eat what i want, when i want, if i feel like eating at all :(
 
 
 


suebear
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   Posted 12/8/2008 9:27 PM (GMT -6)   

My acupuncturist said that treatment for UC could not be possible without being off all medications which I was unwilling to do.  I hope that you can get relief with your treatment.

Sue


dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998

1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


kazygirl
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   Posted 12/8/2008 9:34 PM (GMT -6)   
oh, i havent tried it, started it, or even decided to do it.
 
not sure,  just found out about it and thought that i would share with others just in case it could help or if they tried it.
 
so, you were told to go off meds?
thats interesting.
i wonder why.  i am skeptical of this stuff and if they say to go off all meds, without proving to me that it actually works, im not sure im into it.
dont get me wrong, i hate taking all these meds, but....
 
thanks for feedback tho!
steph - 32 - female - gold coast australia - UC since 2000
severe UC in descending colon and sigmoid colon ONLY
mesalazine granules 3g x1 a day (much nicer than a million tablets a day)
prednisolone 25mg x1 a day (ick ick and did i say ick?)
enteric coated fish oil -omega 3 (so they get all the way to my colon)
vitamin D3 x1 a day
tumeric capsules - if i remember to take the bloody things.
i still eat what i want, when i want, if i feel like eating at all :(
 
 
 


Y2K Bug
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   Posted 12/9/2008 3:40 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi kazygirl, did you bounce me out of your guild?  confused

I had acupuncture treatment and some Traditional Chinese Medicaine from a lady who was trained in China and also had some treatment from my fatherinlaw (who lectures to acupuncture practitioners in Australia). I also saw a guy in Sydney who referred me to a guy in Canberra for acupuncture treatment. It may have helped my general condition but didn't actually put me into remission. I thought at the time that it was gonna be the treatment that cured me (i have a Chinese background). I still think it has a place in UC treatment but it just wasn't for me.

Acupuncture is pretty amazing. You go in for a consult, and the practitioner feels your pulses and can tell where abouts in your body you have a problem even before you describe your condition! I believe that its been around for millenia in some form or another but a lot of the research was lost during the cultural revolution.

 


Peter
 
49yo single dad 
dx 1985
mesalazine 1.5g, prednisolone 15mg
gave up on meds after infliximab (remicade), humira, salofalk (5-asa enema), entocort, Azathioprine, steroid emenas, abadacept
 
have temp ileostomy, reversal probably in Mar/Apr 2009.
 
and I don't know where the nearest toilet is!


Red_34
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   Posted 12/9/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I am a believer in accupuncture - I wasn't before - I was a true skeptic. I have never tried it for my Uc but I did try it on my legs. There was a period where I could hardly move my legs because it felt like I was walking thru mud (from some back issues I have). So I seen a medical doctor who also does accupuncture. I went thru 3 months of it and it has made a world of difference! He checked my body for energy and my legs were at a 10 where normal is 60. So I wonder if they do the same for a Uc'er? I say that if you want to give it a go, go for it! Who knows? Maybe it will help you eh?
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Dr-A
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   Posted 12/9/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   
I've always wanted to try that. No one around here specializes though. That way of treatment has been around longer than we have so there is definately something to it. As far as a lifelong treatment..... If I saw any benefit in it at all, like going to the dentist for the rest of my life to keep my teeth, then I would probably go. There are lots of components to UC which I think this could benefit, just wish someone around here did this stuff.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
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kazygirl
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   Posted 12/9/2008 7:44 PM (GMT -6)   
y2kbug.... i didnt remove you, but one of our members was drunk and booted a bunch of people that he didnt know.. might have been that.
just whisper us and ill invite you back in! how is wotlk going for you? did u get the expansion? i did, im 80 now and starting the 10 man raids. good fun. the graphics are amazing and they did an awesome job!! woot!

anyhoo.. back to the topic.
i might try it now that ive had some good feedback from you all. thanks!
true thing about the dentist connection. thanks for that drA.
makes sense and i didnt even think of it like that.
steph - 32 - female - gold coast australia - UC since 2000
severe UC in descending colon and sigmoid colon ONLY
mesalazine granules 3g x1 a day (much nicer than a million tablets a day)
prednisolone 25mg x1 a day (ick ick and did i say ick?)
enteric coated fish oil -omega 3 (so they get all the way to my colon)
vitamin D3 x1 a day
tumeric capsules - if i remember to take the bloody things.
i still eat what i want, when i want, if i feel like eating at all :(
 
 
 


emory
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Total Posts : 327
   Posted 12/9/2008 10:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi kazygirl,

I had several acupuncture treatments in September and October. At my last two treatments, the practitioner did moxibustion at points on my big toe. Soon after, bleeding basically stopped for me. I've only seen blood a few times since. It could have been coincidental - who knows? But I felt enough improvement that I stopped going to acupuncture (not covered by my insurance). I will definitely go back for tuneups.
40, female
Dx ulcerative proctitis, 3-5 cm, June 2008. Still flaring? Not sure.
Canasa 1000 mg suppositories and 2 tsp smooth texture Metamucil nightly
25 mg hydrocortisone suppositories and 1 Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra in a.m.
Effexor 37.5, Remeron 30 mg, Clonazepam .5 mg and Trazodone 75 mg for sleep/anxiety
2.5 mg methimazole for thyroid
Had some success with acupuncture
Osteopenia and other assorted ailments


Peety
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   Posted 12/10/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried accupuncture years ago, but after a few sessions I got much worse -- not because of it, was already heading that way -- and gave up on it because it was expensive and not apparently effective. Neither she nor my current Naturopathic insisted or even wanted me to go off my asacol; it seems pretty risky advice (legally). My new Naturopathic does accupuncture but has not suggested it for me although the other things we are doing are helping me a lot.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed gluten, other intolerances; started diet without gluten, soy, dairy, tomato etc. Replete$$ probiotic powder at first, now Forte pills. 
Doing much better, but still experience anxiety that interferes with activities. 
 

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