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NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 4:56 AM (GMT -6)   
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee151/NosHistoriae/IMG_3004-1.jpg

I do not have diarrhea or any pain at all. I just have blood. My doctor said it is normal with UC and Crohn's, but I am wondering what you think. I am on Asacol, iron tablets, and Prilosec now.
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily
Right now (which is not working) after bleeding everyday in BMs: Prednisone (30mg to taper off of for 6 weeks, Azathioprine, Controloc, Potassium, Iron, Multi-Vitamin


Red_34
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Yep, that looks normal for Uc. I have had times where it looked like I slaughtered a pig in the toilet.
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Cfromutah
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
iv had way more blood than that while flaring

H1685
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I usually have ALOT more blood than that but then I have a ridiculous amount of blood during my flare ups, you'd think I was dying or something! :(

NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
As far as I know, I am not in a flare. I am asking if this amount of blood is normal for remission?
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily
Right now (which is not working) after bleeding everyday in BMs: Prednisone (30mg to taper off of for 6 weeks, Azathioprine, Controloc, Potassium, Iron, Multi-Vitamin


Red_34
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
If you are bleeding you are not in remission.
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NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Which medications would be next for me if prednisone, azathioprine, and asacol are not working?
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily
Right now (which is not working) after bleeding everyday in BMs: Prednisone (30mg to taper off of for 6 weeks, Azathioprine, Controloc, Potassium, Iron, Multi-Vitamin


Red_34
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:28 AM (GMT -6)   
The next course of action would be Remicade. How long have you been on the Aza?
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~Left sided Uc-'92-Colazal(9 daily),6mp(50-100mgs),Bentyl, Prilosec,Biotin,Forvia,Pro-Bio**Unable to tolerate Asacol, Rowasa or Canasa**~Year-round allergies-Singulair, Zyrtec~Secondary Reynauds Syndrome-'04-Norvasc~Sacroiliitis-epidural injections~bulging and herniated discs C5/C6 & C6/C7~3 epidural injections-worked great!, OA in my fingers 
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NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Since January 2005.
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily


Red_34
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   Posted 12/12/2008 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
You might want to give the rectal meds a chance if you haven't already - either Rowasa or a steroid enema to get that bleeding under control. Have you ever used these?
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NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Never. How do you know that the blood is from that area?
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily


therearemiracles
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   Posted 12/12/2008 10:24 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi All,

I just wanted to add thank you to everyone who's took time to look at this picture, like I did. Where can you find a more caring bunch of folks then us on the internet?? Seriously, I'm so glad I've found you guys. Just looking at this pic helps me b/c I have the same type of stool, unfortunatly, but for us to help each other through this ordeal is so awesome! This isn't my picture or post, but bless the hearts of those who really looked at the picture and help this person out with their questions. I know there's nothing you all wouldn't do for me or anyone else on this forum. I feel good knowing there are other caring people in the world, like myself, who understand the ups and downs of this dis-ease. Way to go team!!!

Linda


First scope 7/05 should no UC, but I was bleeding with urgency. Sigmoid showed UC at rectum, 2nd colonoscopy & Endoscopy 7/27/07, Left sided colitis and near cecum (mild)
8/1/08 on sulfasalazine 2 2x's a day, canasa often.


FitWithUC
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   Posted 12/12/2008 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
NostraHistoria, that doesn't look like a lot, I've had way more than that, it's pretty normal. However If you're bleeding you're in a flare. The blood looks bright so it must be from the lower part of your intestine (rectum, sigmoid, etc) It would be nice if you could ask your doctor about rectal medication (enemas, etc.) Rowasa helped me out a lot.
Male, 21. Puerto Rico
DX: Ulcerative Colitis as of 06/05
Remissions: Remission: 01/06 till 10/08
Current Treament: Asacol 2400 MG 2X daily, Rowassa nightly, 1MG Folic Acid, 40 MG Prednisone, Remicade, New ChapterĀ® Multivitamin, New ChapterĀ® All-Flora Probiotics, Dolomite Calcium Supplement
Status: Flare, but getting better :) No urgency, no blood :)


FitWithUC
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   Posted 12/12/2008 11:48 AM (GMT -6)   
therearemiracles said...
Hi All,

I just wanted to add thank you to everyone who's took time to look at this picture, like I did. Where can you find a more caring bunch of folks then us on the internet?? Seriously, I'm so glad I've found you guys. Just looking at this pic helps me b/c I have the same type of stool, unfortunatly, but for us to help each other through this ordeal is so awesome! This isn't my picture or post, but bless the hearts of those who really looked at the picture and help this person out with their questions. I know there's nothing you all wouldn't do for me or anyone else on this forum. I feel good knowing there are other caring people in the world, like myself, who understand the ups and downs of this dis-ease. Way to go team!!!

Linda


Indeed, the people in this forum are very helpful :) I'm always available to help too.

NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/12/2008 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for such a nice post. It really makes me feel better. You are right that we are all on a team and that we help each other. Thanks to everyone for being so nice to each other.
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily


Red_34
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   Posted 12/12/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Bright red blood is definately an indication that it is coming from the rectum/sigmoid area and rectal meds can definately take care of that (or at least it's supposed to!). Dark red blood means that the blood is higher in the intestine and black stool/blood is even higher yet or old blood.
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~Left sided Uc-'92-Colazal(9 daily),6mp(50-100mgs),Bentyl, Prilosec,Biotin,Forvia,Pro-Bio**Unable to tolerate Asacol, Rowasa or Canasa**~Year-round allergies-Singulair, Zyrtec~Secondary Reynauds Syndrome-'04-Norvasc~Sacroiliitis-epidural injections~bulging and herniated discs C5/C6 & C6/C7~3 epidural injections-worked great!, OA in my fingers 
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lemonhead
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   Posted 12/12/2008 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
could you have a hemmroid or a cut in your backside?  Sometimes if I push too hard I get cuts and they bleed like the dickens.  But I do hope you stop bleeding.

diagnosed with left-sided UC in 1997. (45cm)
Currently on 10mg Prednisone
12 caps of colazal    9 caps Colazal
2 rowasa enemas nightly
35, female


quincy
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   Posted 12/13/2008 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
NH...Definitely flaring, not from hemmies or a fissure...considering it's in and around the stool. Looks as mine did when I was bleeding with a flare..different than when I have a fissure..which is more dripping in the toilet after I wipe.
Not to say you couldn't have either, however...but considering you have UC, and if it's consistent...it's a flare..

The inflammation could be higher than where the bleeding is....but considering the stool is pretty formed and the bleeding is quite a bit through the stool, you should be on rectal meds regardless to help while you're tapering off the pred.

How much iron are you taking? Sometimes that would darken the stool and cause some constipation...but that doesn't seem the case.

Are you taking any fibre supplements?

Interesting thread!

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 5th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate)....1 each  @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/13/2008 4:24 AM (GMT -6)   
2 tablets of iron. No fiber supplements either. I feel fine, but sometimes at night I get tired.
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily


quincy
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   Posted 12/13/2008 12:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I would encourage a fibre supplement to help bulk/soften the stool...definitely easier going through an inflamed rectum.

Tired at night seems the norm for many....

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol 6 (3 twice daily); enemas every 5th night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate)....1 each  @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Scottishcammy
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   Posted 12/13/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Not something I'd share with everyone(!), but here's an indication of what I was like when I was flaring:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/scottishcammy/DSC00035.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/scottishcammy/DSC00034.jpg
Diagnosed Indeterminate Colitis 25/11/2007 (update: told by consultant 15/01/08 in his opinion definitely UC).
150mg Azathioprine/Imuran.


NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/13/2008 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
What did you go on to get into remission? When you had that flare, did you just have blood or did you have diarrhea and pain as well?

BTW, thanks to everyone who looked at my pic. I did feel a little odd looking at someone else's bowel movement.
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily

Post Edited (NostraHistoria) : 12/13/2008 11:43:23 AM (GMT-7)


Scottishcammy
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   Posted 12/13/2008 1:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Azathioprine, took a good 3 months.
Diagnosed Indeterminate Colitis 25/11/2007 (update: told by consultant 15/01/08 in his opinion definitely UC).
150mg Azathioprine/Imuran.


NostraHistoria
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   Posted 12/13/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
After 3 months, the blood went away or did it gradually improve?
27m - Dx January 2005 and given 80mg Prednisone to taper off and 12 tablets of Asacol
Normal medication: 12 tablets of Asacol daily


Katmom
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   Posted 12/13/2008 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
For my daughter, the 6mp took awhile, and then gradually improved the bleeding...until it didn't. You might get lucky and it will kick in a bit faster. Behave and take the tests required, so that they monitor your liver/kidney functions. A specific enzyme breaks that stuff down, and it has to be closely monitored.
Loved the photos! I can say that the first one posted didn't look too bad to me...that is a good day in my house, and Quincy's/ Sherry's right, you are not quite in remission. The latter flare photos are also familiar to me, and they are def. not in remission. More blood than stool seems to be the marker that things are getting pretty bad in my daughter's world.
Hang tough. K
Daughter,15 diagnosed 1-08 w/ UC Learning from you all.
Asacol, Prevacid, Flagyl, Prednizone 50mg, major flare, now off!, Hosp. @ U of C, Comers, four x this yr. Low residue diet still, and still having problems.
6MP, Colazol ,horrible acne/moon for awhile- No more Pred,but 6mp isn't working. Remicade next up.
Trying probiotics, fish oil, and Mangosteen for kicks.
update:
On 2nd infusion of Remicade, and still on all of the other drugs., except Flagyl and Pred. Better, not healed.

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