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bobbit
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   Posted 1/4/2009 1:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to bring on a new topic, I feel there are alot of topics more important than this but howmany people have cats and also marine aquariums, silly you might say but there is a reason.
ROB

quincy
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   Posted 1/4/2009 1:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a cat...never aquariums.
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 twice daily); flaring since Dec 22, tapered every 2nd nite (Jan 3)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate).... @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


bobbit
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   Posted 1/4/2009 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I have read that cat saliva is not good, and it can cause inflamation in the joints, how true i'm not sure but i do know that some allergic reactions to cats do include swelling in facial areas and throat, this happend to a friend of mine when he was house sitting while i was away.
The aquarium thing, i used to keep a marine aquarium and was told that the bateria in the water (hydrogen sulphide i believe, rotten eggs) can cause chronic dihorrea also what some of the corals secrete, how true again i'm not sure.
ROB

quincy
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   Posted 1/4/2009 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I think for something to cause diarrhea, it would have to be "ingested".

I'd never have an aquarium...but I know they do have to be kept properly cleaned/maintained. There would/could be materials/products/other fish species you could possibly use to create a balance...have you done the research regarding health issues and aquariums?

Of course, cat dander (dried saliva) from cats causes allergies.

Cat bites can cause infection or other problems if not properly cleaned/treated.

I'm allergic to my cat if she scratches me, touches me with her wet nose or bites me, or I touch my eyes after petting her (all my fault)..but I've never had anything but localised problems. We've had her for 15 years.

q
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 twice daily); flaring since Dec 22, tapered every 2nd nite (Jan 3)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate).... @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Peety
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   Posted 1/4/2009 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Goodness! I have two cats, always have had cats, also a dog when I was a kid.
I know cat poop can be dangerous for women who plan to get pregnant, I forget the name of the problem.
And my sisters-in-law have allergies and become miserable in our house almost instantly, even though it is professionally cleaned every week.

BTW, one of my cats had colitis, which was resolved when we switched to grain-free, natural cat food.
The other takes probiotics now as part of a treatment for a "hot gut" that made her body hot and was causing her to pull hair out of her back. Probiotics, chinese herbs of some kind and eliminating processed food helped her.

So I would not be surprised to hear some connection...
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed gluten, other intolerances; started diet without gluten, soy, dairy, tomato etc. Replete$$ probiotic powder at first, now Forte pills. Doing much better, but still having some bad days. 


unclebubba
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   Posted 1/4/2009 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
My girl friend and I live together... and she has two of the danged things... she's napping now, but I'm going to wake hr and read her this post. Maybe I finally found an excuse to get rid of the things.... LOL I really don't think thats going to happen though. I'm not really a cat person. Am a dog person. And she has one of those also, the dog I don;t mind. I keep trying to make a deal with the dog that if he would just eat the cats I would feed him at least one good steak a week in payment. LOL. Dog must not like steak cause the cats are still here. LOL
No aquarium.... can't have one because the cats would eat my fish. LOL
 
38 yr old male, NE Ohio
 
diagnosed in aug 2008
30 mg predisone, 9 balsalazide, rowesa enema, 2 gemfibrozil, 1 norvasc, 1 metoprotol, 1 allopurinol, 2 probiotic, 2 aloe vera
gluten intolerance... attempting to live no/low gluten
 
**********
update: down to 25 mg pred a day as of 12/25/08


bobbit
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   Posted 1/4/2009 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Quincy, i do not keep an aquarium now, we moved and had to get rid of it, also when we moved we had two cats but sadly died.
The aquarium was cared for and yes i probably didnt wash my hands properly so it makes sense for the ingestable option.
Peety, please god, dont get rid of the cats!!
There was no link to colitis on what i read its just the inflamation concern that i looked at, when i was ill i would look at any possible link or option that could make me ill but fortunaly for me i became better,
my only opinion is that UC is a digestive disorder that could be put right only if the correct foods were eaten and by no means do i mean to be flippant, this condition is seriouse, what worked for me may not work for someone else, i feel though however, that a constant flow through the bowel in such an abnormal way will eventualy have an effect on the internal tissue thus leading to an adverse effects.
ROB

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 1/4/2009 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I have never had a cat or an aquarium.
Diagnosed with proctitis in March 2007 - Treated with Canasa 2x Daily
Diagnosed with UC December but had symptoms months ago - Treating with Asacol (feel hopeless)


unclebubba
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   Posted 1/4/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
My girl friend is not buying it... guess the dang cats stay. Come on dog... I promise its a good steak.... LOL
 
38 yr old male, NE Ohio
 
diagnosed in aug 2008
30 mg predisone, 9 balsalazide, rowesa enema, 2 gemfibrozil, 1 norvasc, 1 metoprotol, 1 allopurinol, 2 probiotic, 2 aloe vera
gluten intolerance... attempting to live no/low gluten
 
**********
update: down to 25 mg pred a day as of 12/25/08


bobbit
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   Posted 1/4/2009 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I suppose its one way of trying, but they are not that bad, could you catch a mouse ? UB checkout the post on Phage medicine

pb4
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   Posted 1/4/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I got IBD before having a cat or an aquarium...the aquarium I had for only a short time and I was not the one that took care of it when we had one.


:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


Christine1946
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   Posted 1/4/2009 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
     Did not have a cat when I developed UC.  Have a cat now, actually it is my daughter's.  She had it in her apartement and it came along with her when she moved back home.  The cat is not sociable, likes to keep to herself.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Update 11/03/08...finally in remission!!  Hope I don't jinx myself.  Off the prednisone since 11/01/08...now see if I can stay off for longer than two weeks.  Other meds: 6MP (75 mgm), colazal (6 per day), Benicar and Toprol (high blood pressure meds), Probiotic (2 per day), fish oil capsule and multi-vitamin and calcium with vitamin D.


love4cats
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   Posted 1/4/2009 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I have three cats, had an aquarium years before I got UC.
 
 
Dx:  UC Proctitis 2006 
Meds:  None so far. Garlic works to ease flares. My GI laughed when I told him and said it was just coincidence. 
Started Meds:  Apr 9 08 500mg 5ASA (salofalk) to ease flare, tapering, stopped. 
Diet:  Regular fresh garlic, Biobest yogurt daily, Omega 3 supplements, very limited junk food, carbs and processed food, low fat diet.  Lots of fresh fruit and veggies (limited potatoes). 
 Added: tumeric and probiotics.
 
 


NMcP
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   Posted 1/4/2009 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I think somehow there is a connection, but danged if I can figure it out. My cat had something akin to UC and had to have his colon removed. He is fine now. His poop is a lot mooshier, but he goes once or twice a day and seems pretty content with life.

No one in my family or my extended family has UC except me.

I know at least 10 people at work that have relatives with UC. That doesn't make it seem so rare.
Age: 48
location: Seattle, Wa
Diagnosed with UC in June 2006
Medications: Asacol 3 pills 3 x/day, Canansa am & pm, Atenelol 1 x/day, Ativan as needed
No. of colonoscopies: 1
Originally diagnosed with moderate UC, pancolitis


piccolobellezza
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   Posted 1/4/2009 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
haha I have 8 cats shocked
 
I had an aquarium when I was younger too.
21, female
Diagnosed September 2007
Remicade
Prednisone
Rowasa
Asacol
Protonix
Bentyl
Lomotil
Lasix
Zofran


unclebubba
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   Posted 1/4/2009 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   
if the dog would just take a dang bribe... I wouldn;t have cats... ****. I actually walked into the bedroom this eve and before I could turn on the light... stepped... IN MY BARE FEET into a coughed up hair ball. How gros is that stuff. COME ON DOG. am uppin the ante... two steak a week. eat the cats.
 
38 yr old male, NE Ohio
 
diagnosed in aug 2008
30 mg predisone, 9 balsalazide, rowesa enema, 2 gemfibrozil, 1 norvasc, 1 metoprotol, 1 allopurinol, 2 probiotic, 2 aloe vera
gluten intolerance... attempting to live no/low gluten
 
**********
update: down to 25 mg pred a day as of 12/25/08


Peety
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   Posted 1/4/2009 8:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I LOVE my cats and would never, ever get rid of them! Even if it would cure me, I would not! They are beauties, and so loving. I always get my kitties from the humane society.
My husband loves them too but he has to wash his hands a lot and not touch his eyes because he is a little allergic.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed gluten, other intolerances; started diet without gluten, soy, dairy, tomato etc. Replete$$ probiotic powder at first, now Forte pills. Doing much better, but still having some bad days. 


unclebubba
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   Posted 1/4/2009 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL>..... Peety... want my cats? Wait, girl friend won't get rid of them... DANG
 
38 yr old male, NE Ohio
 
diagnosed in aug 2008
30 mg predisone, 9 balsalazide, rowesa enema, 2 gemfibrozil, 1 norvasc, 1 metoprotol, 1 allopurinol, 2 probiotic, 2 aloe vera
gluten intolerance... attempting to live no/low gluten
 
**********
update: down to 25 mg pred a day as of 12/25/08


mbx5
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:08 PM (GMT -6)   
cats....i dont want to even go there.... wife has one.... love that litter that sticks to their feet and tracks on stuff they walk on....mmmmm.... love the fact that they stand in a box with their poop, push it around, then walk on your bed....
34 yr old male. UC for 14 years. Started left-sided, most recent scope shows pancolitis. 40mg pred (as of 12/16/08), 12 pills Asacol per day, 1mg Atavan per day (anxiety) when needed, Fish oil pills, Culturelle probiotics, Multivitamin. Recent Endonasal brain surgery to remove non-cancerous hormone producing tumor on pituitary gland (and I am still more afraid of my UC!!) "I poop in the woods because I can"


ucwarrior
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I have 4 cats, a choc lab, 2 birds, and 2 aquariums. I don't feel that any have contributed in any way to my UC.

I've also had two coral sal***er reef setups and other than the occasional rash from the anenome and prickly cactus-like splinters from the live rock, no problems there.

I worked at an aquarium cleaning tanks for 2 years. During that time I had the usual occasional flare but nothing I could attribute to my job there. The bacteria used to condition/filter the tanks is aerobic bacteria that is present in any pond or lake or ocean. The anaerobic bacteria at the bottom of the salt tanks and seafloor would not be a wise idea to ingest.

After cleaning the tanks and playing with the animals I am always careful to not touch my eyes or mouth until I wash up.
Diagnosed w/ Ulcerative Colitis in 1995
32 years old
Living med free  
Currently in remission  


pb4
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
mbx5 said...
cats....i dont want to even go there.... wife has one.... love that litter that sticks to their feet and tracks on stuff they walk on....mmmmm.... love the fact that they stand in a box with their poop, push it around, then walk on your bed....

Cats are actually very clean animals (most that I know of at least) when they're in the litter box they push clean litter onto their mess trying to avoid touching their own mess, at least that's how my cat is and when she comes out of the box she flicks her paws so litter isn't stuck to them and she pretty much always licks her paws shortly after comming out of the box too (does a whole cat bathing thing on herself)...besides which, I've never seen a cat eat it's own poop like I've seen dogs do.
 
:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


unclebubba
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL... this topic is fun. Seems it has turned into a discusion between cat and dog people. FUN. lol BTW anyone ever read the book "101 uses for a dead cat?" lol
 
38 yr old male, NE Ohio
 
diagnosed in aug 2008
30 mg predisone, 9 balsalazide, rowesa enema, 2 gemfibrozil, 1 norvasc, 1 metoprotol, 1 allopurinol, 2 probiotic, 2 aloe vera
gluten intolerance... attempting to live no/low gluten
 
**********
update: down to 25 mg pred a day as of 12/25/08


pb4
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:45 PM (GMT -6)   
nono  BAD BUBBA!  I'm a cat lover as you could obviously tell, so no mean talk about cats shakehead   at least what I said about dogs eating their own poops is true shocked
 
:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


Sara14
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   Posted 1/4/2009 11:18 PM (GMT -6)   
What makes you think there is any association between cats & UC, bobbit? I have never heard anything like this before.
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day; Rowasa; Canasa; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops


piccolobellezza
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   Posted 1/4/2009 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I love my cats, they're cuddling with me right now! I'm pretty sure they cause me a lot less stress than most people do! =)
21, female
Diagnosed September 2007
Remicade
Prednisone
Rowasa
Asacol
Protonix
Bentyl
Lomotil
Lasix
Zofran

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