anemic + red meat?

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LeafsFan
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   Posted 1/8/2009 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey all,
 
I know that alot of us here, including myself have cut back, if not all out, our red meat. Wondering if anyone knows if this can contribute to becoming anemic.
My girlfriend was just told that she was extremly anemic and to eat some more red meat in her diet as well.
Red meat can also contribute to other health problems if eaten too much althought I'm not against including it in moderation. I mostly eat chicken and fish, with red meat 2-3 times/month.
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this. How much do you eat? Any problems with too much or too little? Anemia?
 
 
Chuck - 28 yrs and counting
 
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 08
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quincy
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   Posted 1/9/2009 1:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I haven't changed any of my red meat intake, but I don't eat a lot based on convenience to cook it, and I do eat a meat source and an egg daily. I love steak, and would probably have it once a week if my husband would bbq it (because he does it perfectly without charring).

There are many options for iron food sources...

Your girlfriend can start cooking foods in a cast iron pan...that will increase the numbers a bit. Even if it's to cook apples or spinach or whatever...the iron will transfer to the food.

She can also make sure she's getting enough vitamin C...eating vitamin C rich foods with iron containg foods will help her utilise them better.

Curious..what's her diet like daily?

Have you checked out lists of iron food sources? and the amounts?

Is she taking vitamins that include iron.


Hope this helps.

quincy
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LeafsFan
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   Posted 1/9/2009 7:13 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Quincy,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have been trying to eat more fish and chicken than red meat lately. (I eat red meat a couple times a month still.) I was told it helps to keep inflammation down. I'll try anything to keep this UC in control. (I also love fish anyways).

My girlfriend eats a fairly balanced diet as well. Pretty much the same as myself, but maybe red meat slightly more. She just started an iron supplement and is looking into foods that will help. I will mention the vitamin C thing as I don't believe she takes any or with any foods. She doesn't drink citrus either.

I was just curious about the red meat idea as I have been told for UC to eat LESS of it, which I've been trying, but then for her to eat MORE of it since she's anemic. I want to find a balance that works for us. She'll be living with me soon enough, so it will be nice to be able to eat majority of our meals the same. :-) I also thought about the possibility that if I don't eat enough and having colitis already intefer with absorbtion, that I could possibly BECOME anemic. I wasn't sure if I would get enough from fish and chicken. I do eat eggs 2-3 times per week.


 
Chuck - 28 yrs and counting
 
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 08
 -----------------------------------
Pentasa 500mg 2pills-4x daily
Prednisone 50mg 45mg 40mg day - Calicium + Vit D
Multivitamin, vitamin C, probiotics, fish oil
 
"If you can solve your problem, then what is the need of worrying? If you cannot solve it, then what is the use of worrying?"


jujub
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   Posted 1/9/2009 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Red meat is a concentreated source of iron, and therefore is one of the most efficient foods in helping us maintain our iron levels. However it is possible to get adequate iron in your diet without eating red meat. Foods high in iron include:
liver
beef, pork, lamb
seafood, such as oysters, clams, tuna, salmon, and shrimp, etc.
kidney, lima, navy, black, pinto, soy beans, and lentils
iron fortified whole grains
greens, including collard greens, kale, mustard greens, spinach, and turnip greens
tofu
vegetables, including broccoli, swiss chard, asparagus, parsley, watercress, brussel sprouts
chicken and turkey
blackstrap molasses
Meats seem to be another thing that are individual. I know people who swear beef bothers them, others who can eat beef but not pork. Red meat has never bothered me, and when I'm flaring I develop an intense craving for it.
 
Judy
 
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 1/9/2009 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I was severely anemic for quite some time, & now my iron levels seem to be ok, a little on the low side. I have never really eaten red meat, so increasing my meat intake was not an option. I did take an iron supplement for awhile, which had the added effect of slight constipation- nothing wrong with that for me! I stopped taking it when my levels evened out. I think people with UC tend to become anemic because we are losing occult blood in our stools, pretty much daily. Even if you don't necessarily see blood in the toilet or on the tp, I'm betting that the stool itself contains a fair amount of blood. Plenty of people do not eat meat & never become anemic. If you can digest red meat ok, there's nothing wrong with a good steak once a week. If it gives you problems, eat other foods high in iron or take a supplement.

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LeafsFan
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   Posted 1/9/2009 9:11 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks so much for your replies. I do enjoy a good steak or beef spaghetti sauce. Of course a bit of bacon with breakfast is good too. Now I'm hungry.

I will have to find out by trial and error I guess. I will continue to eat more fish and chicken than red meat, but hopefully I can indulge every so often.

Thanks for getting back to me, and thanks Judilyn for the list of iron containing foods. I will show my girlfriend the list. She might find it helpful.

 


 
Chuck - 28 yrs and counting
 
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 08
 -----------------------------------
Pentasa 500mg 2pills-4x daily
Prednisone 50mg 45mg 40mg day - Calicium + Vit D
Multivitamin, vitamin C, probiotics, fish oil
 
"If you can solve your problem, then what is the need of worrying? If you cannot solve it, then what is the use of worrying?"


Peety
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   Posted 1/9/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
My friend was told to eat some red meat when she was pregnant -- same concept. And she was a vegetarian! But not anymore...she loves a good steak now, too funny.

Slo-FE is an iron supplement that's easier on the gut, for anyone.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed gluten, other intolerances; started diet without gluten, soy, dairy, tomato etc. Replete$$ probiotic powder at first, now Forte pills. Doing much better, but still having some bad days. 

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