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Qvist
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   Posted 1/16/2009 7:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I know I could just start searching the internet, but could someone in here, help me with the basic headlines.
 
Diet: What are the fundamental things not to eat
What are the fundamental things you should eat
 
Which supplements ...... vitamins, minerals, anti-fungal supplements, etc. should you take?
 
Specifically, what are about: Coffee, Red wine, Beer, Yoghurt, Bread, Pasta, Rice, Meat in general, Cow meat? 

princesa
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   Posted 1/16/2009 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's a directory of helpful candida Web sites to explore as you have time:

http://candidapage.com/

Antifungal diets vary, but in general, you want to eat a low carb diet of mostly lean meats, eggs, non-starchy vegetables, some nuts and berries.

Coffee could be a problem because of caffiene, but is not a problem on an antifungal diet if you drink it black or sweetened with Stevia. Alcoholic beverages are usually avoided. Yogurt with live cultures and low sugar is good. Bread, pasta and rice are generally reduced or avoided. Lean meats that aren't fried or full of preservatives are fine. Organic meats are best.

Here are some other general guidelines:

Foods to Avoid to Reduce Candida
Sugars and Sugar-containing Foods
All yeasts feed on and derive their energy from sugar, fermenting it to produce ethanol (alcohol) as well as a more serious toxic chemical, acetaldehyde – made during the digestion process.
By reducing the amount of sugar in your diet as well as starches, carbohydrates, and alcohol – which all break down into sugar in the body – you'll be limiting the amount of sugar available to intestinal yeast.
Check food labels for fructose, glucose, lactose, maltose, mannitol, sorbitol, and sucrose. Also avoid honey, maple syrup, and molasses.

Processed Foods
Most processed and packaged foods (bottled, boxed, canned, pre-packaged, and/or processed foods) contain sugar and ought to be eliminated from your diet.

Moldy Foods / Yeast Products
Intestinal yeast overgrowth can result in the development of immune reactions to mold and yeast products, so the elimination of these products is advised:
Alcoholic beverages
Cheeses, buttermilk, sour cream, and sour milk products
Condiments – vinegar and vinegar-containing foods such as mayonnaise, mustard, pickles, relishes, and soy sauce
Dried fruits – apricots, dates, figs, prunes, raisins, etc.
Edible fungi – all types of mushrooms and truffles
Malt products – candy, cereals, and malted milk drinks
Packaged fruit juices (may contain mold)


Foods to Eat in Moderation to Avoid / Reduce Candida
Fresh fruit juices (in moderation due to sugar content)
Grains – corn, barley, millet, oats, rice, wheat
High carbohydrate vegetables – beans, parsnips, peas, potatoes, squashes, sweet corn, sweet potatoes, and turnips


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 

Post Edited (princesa) : 1/16/2009 8:10:16 AM (GMT-7)


Qvist
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   Posted 1/16/2009 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Excellent! Thanks !

What about fresh fruit - it contains fruit sugar?
Starchy vegetables would be things like Potatoes right?

No grains ......... what do you eat for breakfast?

mythmoon
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   Posted 1/16/2009 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
scrambled eggs...
I was put on a no-yeast diet by a naturopath for 6 weeks. It was hard. No sugar, dairy (except for plain yogurt), fermented foods, mushrooms, vinegar, soy, white wheat things, bread and of course no yeast.
When you start looking at the labels on things it becomes very hard to find things that meet those requirements. Lots of prepared soup stocks had yeast in them and sugar is in just about everything that is packaged in the supermarket. But I dealt with it for 6 weeks then she told me she though sugar was toxic to my system and to stay on this diet forever and I then I stopped seeing her...too difficult, too much stress and too time consuming. I have however switched to yeast free bread, avoid added yeast wherever possible and eat lots of plain yogurt with stevia for sweetness to try and keep my good bacteria levels up.
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princesa
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   Posted 1/16/2009 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Some diets allow berries and apples and other fruits that are lower in sugar. Some don't allow fruit at all at first, but reintroduce it at a later stage. You'll have to experiment and see how you react.

Starchy, high sugar vegetables are things like potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, carrots.

I also do alot of scrambled eggs or lean ham or turkey and bread made from almond flour with butter or natural applesauce.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


kim123
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   Posted 1/16/2009 10:56 PM (GMT -6)   
If you go on the anti-fungal diet, I would highly recommend taking natural antifungals, if your doctor won't prescribe any. I have found olive leaf extract and caprylic acid to be very effective. As well, I have read apple cider vinegar or coconut oil are very good, but I have never used those. Probiotics are key, as well. I don't think diet alone will give you the results you are looking for.

For breakfast, I ate a lot of omelettes with bacon or ham and onions, eggs any style, grapefruit, yogurt with green apples or fresh/frozen berries, sweetened with Stevia. (After 2 weeks, oatmeal). Fruit such as green apples and any berries are OK. Berries have powerful antioxidants, so you get more bang for your buck with those. I would eliminate ALL grains for at least 2 weeks, and then only reintroduce oats, millet, flaxseed, quinoa, barley. NO WHEAT OR CORN, at least for awhile. Grains, including corn, are contaminated with mycotoxins. **Carrots and spinach are powerful anti-fungals, so I would recommend those, as well. I've always wondered if that is why the spinach/sunflower seed/beta carotene(carrot) diet works well for some people here??!

MisKay
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   Posted 1/17/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I am glad I found this post!

I was just told I have a fungal infection- and I am miserable. I thought it was a bad case of hemmies, but my usual meds weren't helping.

I have a cream, and the doctor did tell me not to eat bread, etc. I appreciate a more detailed list and the recommendation of the suppliments.

I have to be strict with taking my pro-biotics as well.

Anything else anyone wants to add would be great.

kim123
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   Posted 1/17/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
MisKay- Only if you want, you can email me directly and I'll share some of the things I did when I was on the anti-fungal diet and the supplements I took. If not, I'll try to post a few things here, but I think I've already said enough about it so many times before on this forum, others will tire of it. :) How did your doctor discern you had a fungal problem? My doctor(s) never believed me when I tried to share with them my opinions about the fungus link.

Qvist
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   Posted 1/17/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
kim123 said...
...., but I think I've already said enough about it so many times before on this forum, others will tire of it. :)


No, new ones coming to this forum (me inclusive) all the time. (People can just choose not to read the thread)
I kind of understand the food part. Some enlightment on the supplements would be nice.

kim123
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   Posted 1/18/2009 4:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, the antifungals I took were olive leaf extract for one month, then rotated it with caprylic acid for the next, and so on....
I took 2 pills, 3X daily. That was more than the recommended dosage, but I wanted to annihilate the fungus quickly. I also started taking probiotics after the first 2 weeks of the diet/antifungals. I eventually weaned down to 3 a day. I don't take any now. I probably should start again soon, just in case. If you don't have access to supplements, you can take apple cider vinegar or coconut oil, but I'm not sure how much one would need to equate the supplements. You may feel worse when you start the program. Be prepared for that. I could not/did not want to leave the house for about 3 days...flu-like symptoms, extremely tired, aches and pains I never had before, increase of D, etc. But, for some people, they don't experience any changes. It gradually got better as the days went by, and I swear, when I woke up one morning after being on the program for about 2 weeks, I felt incredibly much better; like a switch had been turned on in my body, no more fatigue, pain, mucous, or blood, and I had energy I had never felt before. I really couldn't believe it. I have heard testimonies of others who, after detoxifying themselves for other health reasons, saying they had more energy and were more alert, less foggy-brained. Again, there was no guarantee that I would get well. There was none more surprised than me when I started feeling better. (After all, my doctors had told me changing my diet would not help) And, there are no guarantees for others who may wish to experiment with the fungus theory. I was just so sick and tired of being sick and tired, I was willing to give it a try. I had nothing to lose and everything to gain, I guess you could say. There is no such thing as a quick-fix. Best to you.................

princesa
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   Posted 1/18/2009 8:59 PM (GMT -6)   

Basically, you want to take an antifungal to reduce a candida overgrowth and you want to take a probiotic to restore healthy gut bacteria. Candida is a natural component of the gut, but it's opportunistic and can take over causing a wide variety of health problems.

If you're pretty sure you have a fungal problem, I think it's a good idea to kick start the process with a prescription antifungal med, then switch over to natural antifungals. Wild oregano oil is another natural one I've had good success with. It's also antiviral and antimicrobial.

Probiotics should be taken at different times of the day/night from your antifungals. Some programs have you concentrating more on antifungals for a period of time, then gradually switching over to lower doses of antifungals and higher doses of probiotics as symptoms improve.


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


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   Posted 1/18/2009 10:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Princessa...thanks for the info about spacing the time between anti fungals and probiotics
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Trying to reduce sugar in my diet but cannot tolerate artificial sweetners
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01/03/09 Trying a few new things...I'll report back after 90 days

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