Metamucil questions for pb4

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Shadam
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   Posted 2/15/2009 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey pb4,
 
I've been doing some research on fiber supplements on this site and noticed that you seem to be the fiber expert. Sooo, i have  a few questions for you.  I bought some metamucil, psyllium fiber earlier today (the powder kind that is sugar free and unflavored)
 
1) how do I know I have the right kind (I've seen you mention that when using a fiber supplement, make sure it is a stool bulker not a laxative)?
 
2) how much should I be taking daily (i started low, 1/2 tbsp/day so that my body could ease in to it)?
 
3) should i be taking the capsules instead of the powder mix?
 
4) if metamucil works, can i take it forever?
 
Any of your expertise would be greatly appreciated!
 
 
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


pb4
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   Posted 2/16/2009 3:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry it's taken me so long to reply, I use Prodiem caps which is similar to metamucil, I think using either the caps or the powder is likely a personal choice as I'm sure either form would be effective (including the wafers which some like to eat daily)...Good that you started with 1/2 tsp, always start with the smallest amount and wait until your system has adjusted before increasing your amount and only increase the amount if necessary, if half a tsp forms your stools and cuts them back enough daily then stick with what you're satisfied/comfortable with.

My GI told me to take fibre supplements daily and indefinitely but your GI may not agree (I cant' really think of any reason why he/she wouldn't) but just to let you know, my GI is one of the top lead researchers in Canada for crohn's and colitis, so I feel very confident with his advice to me.

Good luck and key is to make sure you drink plenty of water daily with your fibre supplements, which you should anyways because with having IBD we can easily become dehydrated.
 
Also, just so you know, bloating and gas (even excessive) is common to the system adjusting to fibre supplements (probably fibreous foods too).

:)


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Post Edited (pb4) : 2/16/2009 1:56:26 AM (GMT-7)


pb4
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   Posted 2/16/2009 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
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Shadam
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   Posted 2/16/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks pb!!
 
Sooo i've been drinking the powder (with no taste) and it's horrible.  I think i'm going to start the tablets....should I start with 1 a day??
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


pb4
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   Posted 2/16/2009 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, just do one pill/day and be sure to drink plenty of water with it, you don't want it getting stuck anywhere in your esophagus and swelling....just be sure to stick with it even if you get gassy and bloated, as I mentioned, that will pass. Good luck and be sure to report how things are going.


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neednewbody
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   Posted 2/17/2009 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I started the metamucil last week also. I chose the flavoured one (berry) but sugar free... it is very sweet but still pretty good.
I started with one tsp per day and so far it has really increased bulk. Before that week, it was always watery and now, it seems much better. Also, I feel better. I cant say the frequency has decreased and I have to get up in the middle of the night to go, but I still feel better.
I am seeing the Doctor tomorrow, and I got the metamucil idea from his book that I bought last week. I have been seeing him for 3 yrs, and he never mentioned this, I had to learn it from his book.. .thanks doctor.
But, let me know how it continues for you, and I wil keep you updated on my progress.

Also, the tablets would seem easier to take, etc, but 2 things == you have to take quite a few which equals a greater cost, and also, you must remember to drink lots of water with the capsules.. with the ingestion and throughout the day.
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pb4
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   Posted 2/17/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I prefer taking tabs becauses they don't tend to have any artificial sweetners in them as it's not necessar, so I'd be careful using the mix that's sugar free for that reason...artificial sweetners can often exacerbate IBD symptoms is why I avoid them all like the plague.



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Shadam
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   Posted 2/17/2009 8:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Sooo i started taking the tablets today (only 1 a day for now).  I have a couple more questions though...pb4, when you say you have to drink a lot of water, what is a lot of water to you?
 
I usually try to drink atleast 60-70 oz a day...would this be too little?
 
Also, when do you take your pill?  Is it ok to take it with my med (on asacol)?
 
Thanks for all your help thus far!!!
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


pb4
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   Posted 2/17/2009 8:59 PM (GMT -6)   
It should be fine to take with your Asacol, you can double check with your pharmacy or doc, but I'm sure it's fine, just drink a full glass of water with your fibre pill. You're very welcome, if you have any more Q's just ask away.

:)
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Serenity Now
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   Posted 2/18/2009 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I take Metamucil in the powder form, and it really helped my constipation issues. One thing my pharmacist mentioned was not to take the Metamucil within 2 hours (before or after) of any medication. My iron pill bottle says the same thing.... so it becomes quite a challenge to schedule all these items. I take Asacol 4 times a day, iron 3 times a day, Metamucil twice a day... It's crazy.
ack, 42, Vancouver BC
 
DX: UC (Pancolitis) as of Jan2009.  Symptoms first began June 2008.
Current Meds:  Asacol 800 mg (1 pill x 4 daily), Ferrous Sulfate



Shadam
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   Posted 2/18/2009 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info ack2009.  I'll be sure to take the pills only 2 hours before and after my meds.
 
Good luck!!

Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


nc_bri
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   Posted 2/19/2009 6:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I started on the Metamucil wafers last week, and have noticed a huge difference as well. I take two with dinner, and just started taking one in the morning as well. They really taste pretty good to me so they're not hard to take at all. I've noticed a big difference in my stools being more formed and bulkier, not as much consistency change during the bm, and less mucous. I now go once in the am, and that pretty much does it. They seem to make everything just more regular and dependable for me, so so far so good.
I have noticed quite a bit of gas, and it seems to just keep coming! I'm hoping my system adjusts soon. I'm thinking of trying the Heathers Tummy Fiber that someone else had posted about on here. It's acacia rather than psyllium, and supposedly causes much less gas than the psyllium- many people use it for IBS. I've been to their website Helpforibs.com) and emailed them, and there's a lot of information about it on there. They had a research paper on there from a few years ago about how psyllium can contribute to gas. So, if that helps I'll let you know.
Thanks to PB and Eva Lou for giving me the info about the fiber!

pb4
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   Posted 2/19/2009 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow nc_bri I am so happy to hear that the fibre is doing you so well, one/day!!!! That's awesome, yes just give the gas some time and it will "pass" LOL (pun intended), it took 3 months for my system to adjust and all my excessive gas and bloating was gone and has stayed that way. Honestly I fart so little that there are some nights that I think I've gone a whole 24hrs not passing any gas. I think you're right about the psyllium contributing to the gas part but psyllium is a very effective ingredient so I also use a brand that has it (prodiem is the one I use, similar to metamucil).

Wishing you continued success, and I'm thrilled that my giving you the info on fibre has made such a great difference for you.

:)
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ZLSJ
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   Posted 2/19/2009 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey pb4,

Didn't want to hijack Shadam's post, but I posted the one on Metamucil vs Benefiber...do you have any experience with Benefiber? It appears to me that ingredients are different and perhaps that is why I'm not getting the results I was hoping for.

Prodiem is what you are on, is that readily available at Shopper's/Safeway, etc.?

pb4
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   Posted 2/19/2009 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi ZLSJ,

I've only ever used Prodiem, I'm in Canada and it's seems to be more common here than in the US, though I've heard that there are some states that also carry it, are you in the US or canada? I know that safeway is in the US but not sure about shoppers that's why I'm asking. For the record, I buy it at walmart, much cheaper, but I know they do sell it at shoppers and I believe safeway as well.

If you cannot find it, it is similar to metamucil ( Psyllium is the key ingredient you want to look for ) so you should get pretty much the same results, keeping in mind how we all differ too though.

:)


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ZLSJ
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   Posted 2/19/2009 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   

Yes I am from Canada, Winnipeg actually. (the home of Quincy!)

I'm sure Walmart will be cheaper than either Shoppers or Safeway.

I'm just not seeing any results from the Benefibre, so I'd like to give something else a try to kickstart things a bit. No problem to take it if I'm flaring?


pb4
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   Posted 2/19/2009 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
How long have you been using the benefibre for? Also, did you try increasing the amount of benefibre to see if it would make any difference? Ya, Walmart is def cheaper than shoppers and safeway.

I was flaring when my GI told me to start taking fibre supplements and it was no problem...I have crohn's colitis (CD affecting the colon where UC typically hangs out) so I have some anal complications with my CD that seems to have kept me from reaching full remission ever since getting sick, but the fibre (along with probiotics, omegas-3-6-9, vitamins A, C-Calcium Ascorbate and bee propolis) all daily have definitely helped me go from severe to moderate-mild....my biggest issues are with frequency and urgency, and the above mentioned has aided some with those but I'm still not my normal one/day pooper like I was before I got sick 18 yrs ago now. But, I'll take the average of 5/day (sometimes more, sometimes less) over 30+ times a day and the bee propolis played a big role in that as well as stopping all my lower back pain, bleeding and tons of mucus....then I added the fibre, probiotics and the rest.

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Shadam
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   Posted 2/21/2009 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
So I'm on my 5th day of using the Metamucil capsules (1 a day).  I havent seen much of a difference in my stool form and my urgency.  In fact...i think its gotten worse.  I've been having horrible stomach pain in the morning and have to go at least 4-5 times before lunch. 
 
Should I up the capsule to 2 a day? If so, when should I take them?
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


ZLSJ
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   Posted 2/21/2009 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   

Timing is impeccable Shadam!

I was just going to post on this. Had noticeable results after 1 Metamucil capsule but I guess it was just an anomaly...back to the grind. Kind of thought it was much too good to be true. Back to blood mucus unformed stuff once again.

I too was wondering whether I should increase or just be patient for another few days.


pb4
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   Posted 2/21/2009 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Shadam, I wouldn't increase, just give it time, don't forget, what your diet consists of will still have an impact on how your stools look...fibre supplements also don't necessarily aid with bleeding, only with forming stools and aiding with less frequency and that takes time, it won't likely happen over night and remember what you're eating will still have an impact on the formation of your stool.

:)
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carmen
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   Posted 2/22/2009 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
For those who take regular metamucil, the way I was told to take it, is about 4-5 ounces of juice, mix in 1 full teaspoon, stir and gulp down quickly, and
then drink more after, it is easier to take , than putting it in a full glass of water or juice.

Thanks
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Shadam
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   Posted 2/22/2009 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for everyones input. 
 
I just bought a probiotic but I think I might wait a few days before I start taking it to see how affective the Metamucil campsules really are.  I feel a lot better then I did earlier in the week when I first started taking the capsules and have actually only gone once today!!
 
Does it make sense to wait a few days before I add probiotics in to my treatment?
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Daily Green Tea, de-shelled sunflower seeds & spinach and 1 Multi Vitamin a day
Metamucil - 1/2 tablespoon daily


pb4
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   Posted 2/22/2009 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd actually wait a little longer than a few days, maybe a month at the earliest before adding anything new to your system when you've just added something eles to it. That's just my take on things though, feel free to go with your own gut instincts...probiotics are safe and harmless, but some people say it upsets their guts (though I believe they're referring to "die off" which not everyone physically experiances from probiotics, I never and many others havn't either).

Good luck!!

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burnabygirl
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   Posted 2/22/2009 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Shadam,
I started with 1 Metamucil capsule day with breakfast. I saw some improvement right away, but not good enough. So I started to take another 1 after dinner a week later. I finally added another 1 after lunch 2 months later. It seems that this is the right dosage for me.
I've done an experiment on Metamucil capsule and wondered that 1 capsule won't do much. I cut it open and poured the contents into a small glass of water. I left it there without stirring. It turned the water into a semi-jelly form but the powder didn't thicken, even after a few hours. Certainly my colon is not like that glass of water but I do think that I need to take more than 1 capsule everyday to get a good result.
Sorry, I am not scientific. I am just curious how these capsules work.
Ulcerative proctitis diagnosed in July 2006. Medications: Salofalk enema nightly.
Remission from Nov 2006 to Oct 2007. Then a bad cold and a bad flare for 1 year till Nov 2008.
Pancolitis diagnosed in April 2008. Current medications: Salofalk enema, Salofalk tablets 1000mg x 2/day, Entocort enema (tapering).
Supplements: Calcium with Vitamin D, Vitamin B Complex, Vitamin C, psyllium capsule (Metamucil) and bee propolis.


ZLSJ
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   Posted 2/23/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely less frequency for me but not a lot of formed stools happening just yet. My stomach also seems to have simmered down somewhat.

Bunaby Girl, did the salofalk enema aid in stopping any bleeding may have had ?
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