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Joma
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   Posted 3/1/2009 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone have any information about using licocaine topically for induciing remission? Apparently there was a doc up in Toronto who advised an aquaintance of mine to try it - not sure how she got it up there or what brand she used (I was told that it was over the counter) but aparently it worked well for her. l heard this third hand so my details are hazy. I do know that it is not a routine treatment.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Mamas Boys
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   Posted 3/1/2009 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I've used it in the past for my hemmies - but I have never heard of it being used to induce remission in UC.

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fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/1/2009 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I've used it for hemmies as well (didn't do much to kill the pain), but I can't see how it would help UC, as it's just a topical pain killer.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


kops2da
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   Posted 3/1/2009 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   

There are lidocaine suppositories and I had thought I might ask my doctor for a prescripton to help the rectal pain.  Not sure how they would work getting into remission however.  Maybe allow for healing better!

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Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008
Tried all mesalamines and enemas, Canasa, etc.  Colonoscopy 10/28 showed only few cm. left to heal -hydrocortisone enemas 12 days - much worse. Cannot tolerate mesalamine!
2/3/2009 - sigmoidoscopy showed about 30 cm. involved but mild - starting on prednisone only 40 mg. taper on 2/7/2009.
 Feb. 21 - down to 20 mg. - no blood, no pain, no bad side effects so far. Starting 6-MP Feb. 28 along with 20 mg. prednisone.
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD
 
 
 


hedgehog
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   Posted 3/3/2009 6:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Joma, I used xylocaine (lidocaine HCl) a year and a half ago as enemas to induce remission. If I recall correctly, they were made by AstraZeneca. Here is a link to a thread that discusses them. I had a prescription for them in the hopes that my drug plan would cover them, but it didn't. I think you can buy them OTC.
 
 
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
-F/33 -diagnosed June 2006
-last 25cm of colon affected
-xylocaine enemas put me in remission
-Asacol 2 800mg pills 2x/day
-budesonide enemas every 4-5 days


Joma
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   Posted 3/3/2009 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks hedgehog

seems as if this is a canadian thing. can i ask you a couple of questions......

how long did it take to achieve remission
have you had to use it a second time or have you maintained remission since then

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hedgehog
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   Posted 3/4/2009 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Joma, if I recall correctly I had a prescription for a 2 month supply of xylocaine. I think I used them nightly for a month and a half and then tapered with the remaining couple of weeks worth. I had a set back after I finished them - I switched to salofalk enemas for maintenance every third night and they seemed to cause bleeding. I'm using budesonide enemas every 3 or 4 nights for maintenance now.  I haven't used the xylocaine since - mainly because it's not covered by my drug plan and costs over $10 an enema.
 
Tara

peverroad
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   Posted 3/4/2009 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a question.  I have never made an enema.  Would someone walk me through it and tell me where to get the lidocaine, and price.  I am very intrested in this and would be wanting to give it a go.  thanks

hedgehog
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   Posted 3/6/2009 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
peverroad, I did not make the enemas myself - I had a prescription for them. There was a member who was making them using lidocaine HCl, water and a thickening agent. I have no idea where he ordered the lidocaine HCl powder from. This is something you should probably run by your GI before you attempt. He may want to monitor your blood to see how much lidocaine is being absorbed so you can stop treatment if levels are too high and prevent side effects.

Joma
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   Posted 3/6/2009 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
having the gi monitor is a great idea.......however, mine had never even heard of lidocaine being used to induce remission. thats what i get in rural new mexico. sometimes i feel as if i know more than my doctors....actually, alot of the time.
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