Tummy bug or flare?

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fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/4/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
So I was doing GREAT until Monday evening...down to 2-3 semi-formed BMs/day and normal energy.  Then, it all came crumbling down.  I started having completely watery diarrhea and nausea, then started throwing up later in the night.  Yesterday, I couldn't even keep liquids down.  Today, I'm doing ok with liquids, but threw up again when I tried to eat some saltines this morning.  Another weird thing is that the diarrhea is completely non-urgent.  I sit on the toilet every now and then and let loose volumes of completely watery stool.  Plus, I don't have any nocturnal diarrhea.  I've gone ahead and used my Rowasa the past two nights and have been able to hold it.
 
My husband had what we think was a milder version of this on Sunday...diarrhea and nausea, but no vomiting.  Our son (almost 5 months old, goes to daycare) probably had a tummy bug last week.  At the time, we attributed the extra spit-up-iness and problems getting him to eat well to a cold he had.  Looking back, it makes sense that he might have also had this.
 
I've called my GI, and he says it's hard to know whether it's a bug or if it's the colitis flaring again.  However, it just seems weird that I got bad so very quickly.  I thought flares started slower than this and got worse. 
 
So, what do you think this is?  Have you ever had a flare start so severly? 
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


basa0806
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   Posted 3/4/2009 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe just a bug because your husband and son has similar problems too? When I have a stomach bug my d is usually always just sitting there and if I were to walk into the bathroom at any given time I could go, and it isn't urgent. It also smells realllllly bad when I have a bug (not usual for me in a flare). Just think positively (as positively as you can!) that its the stomach flu and it will go away :)
Make sure to keep up with the liquids though. Dehydration sucks just as much!
Sam(antha)
20 year old college student diagnosed with ulcerative colitis at 16
Remission since January/April 2006
400mg Asacol 2x, 10mg Elavil, 75mg Effexor XR for GAD

"Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans"
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quincy
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   Posted 3/4/2009 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd say a bug, but remember that could trigger a flare too.

Good call on taking the Rowasa anyway...were you on maintenance anyway?

make sure you, your husband and your son are taking probiotics...that gut flora has to get rebalanced.

Its so undignified to have vomitting and diarrhea...i've had that twice, and I'd take a flare anyday!

Hope you feel better soon. Don't share towels and wash hands a lot!

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 x2 daily); flaring /Dec 22, tapered to every 3rd nite
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed; started Omega 3 
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


princesa
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   Posted 3/5/2009 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Another vote for stomach virus... it's definitely been going around. My husband and I both had it in December.

I second q's suggestion on the probiotics... take high doses until your symptoms abate.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/5/2009 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the input. I'm feeling MUCH better today. No diarrhea yet (it's 8:15am here) despite using the restroom three times (2am, 6am, and 7:30am) and pushing (not hard, just a little) each time. And no vomiting since yesterday around noon when I tried eating the saltines. I held down some applesauce, chicken broth, and saltines later in the day. So, I think I'm on the mend and an really convinced this was just a bug.

Quincy, I was still using Rowasa nightly anyway...I was concerned about being able to hold it in due to the amount of diarrhea I was having.

How much probiotic should I take? I normally take one Culturelle each day.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Peety
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Ugh. Pamper yourself for a while, be comfortable.

I'm not sure extra probiotics will help or hurt your recovery. I find too much can be harsh.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated all wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), trying Curamin. 
Flaring, seasonal? or supplements too harsh? Back on prednisone, trying 15/20 mg. Appt 3/6 to discuss Humira, etc.   


quincy
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   Posted 3/6/2009 1:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I would say double them for sure....I believe Culturelle says up to 3 daily...
q
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 x2 daily); flaring /Dec 22, tapered to every 3rd nite
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed; started Omega 3 
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


princesa
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   Posted 3/6/2009 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I had very good luck with Natren's Bifido Factor (non-dairy) in the powdered form for recovery after a stomach/intestinal virus. I took high doses until symptoms abated and it was amazing how quickly it got me back on track.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 3/6/2009 10:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like a bug to me. I am always looking for blood when I go to the bathroom. This morning I had some D and I was so scared there would be blood on the toilet paper but none. I guess maybe we just ate something that doesn't agree with us. I need to start keeping a food and BM journal. You should get some rest and keep eating light. I hope this passes quickly and doesn't cause you to flare.

Diagnosed with proctitis in March 2007 - Treated with Canasa 2x Daily
Diagnosed with UC December 08 but had symptoms months ago - Treating with Asacol 400mg (9 a day)


fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/6/2009 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, everyone! I think I'm pretty much back to "normal." I had a lot fewer episodes of D yesterday, and when I did, the volume was a lot lower. And no vomiting at all. I was able to eat, even though I didn't eat a lot and kept it light. Today I probably could have gone to work, but chose to work from home again like I did yesterday. I'm lucky to have a flexible job and understanding boss.
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


quincy
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   Posted 3/6/2009 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Awesome!! probably good you are at home for once you start digesting the food intake, your bms may be a bit more anyway....

Hope this is the last of it.

Have a good weekend!
quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 x2 daily); flaring /Dec 22, tapered to every 3rd nite
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed; started Omega 3 
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/6/2009 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, quincy! So far no BMs today...I'm kind of nervous as to what the first one will bring! ;)
Hope you have a great weekend too! :)
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Peety
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   Posted 3/6/2009 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been avoiding my husband's family because it seems all our nieces and nephews have had the stomach bug -- they don't know much about my condition except that I really must avoid being exposed to that if at all possible.

The family has had so much of it, we have yet to exchange Christmas presents! Seriously! We all just cancelled another attempt at celebrating tonight in fact, because the 4 year old is now infected.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated all wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), trying Curamin. 
Flaring, seasonal? or supplements too harsh? Back on prednisone, trying 15/20 mg. Appt 3/6 to discuss Humira, etc.   


fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/6/2009 3:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, wow, Peety! That's crazy! I just hope that my son doesn't pick up too many tummy bugs at daycare...otherwise, it might be really rough on me!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


Peety
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   Posted 3/6/2009 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Make him scrub up before he touches you. :)

My hubby is a teacher, and we have become very good at washing our hands really well every time we step back into the house. So far he has been OK even though lots of his students have been sick.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated all wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), trying Curamin. 
Flaring, seasonal? or supplements too harsh? Back on prednisone, trying 15/20 mg. Appt 3/6 to discuss Humira, etc.   

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