UC and heavy antibiotic usage.

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Zippy123
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   Posted 3/16/2009 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Just wonder how many of you have used a lot of antibiotics some time prior to getting UC? Where you also a big eater of carbohydrates like breads and pasta's?

I know I was taking a lot of antibiotics for at first my prostrate, then a lot for a mystery ear and neck pain. Then on the tail end for a bad tooth. All with in about 2 years of getting Colitis. Also was a heavy carbohydrate eater, 4 pieces of toast before bed, etc.

Looking to see if there is any common majority connection for a cause of this disease. It seems probiotics is one of the best helpers, and I see that VSL 3 has even knocked people into remission in heavy doses.

bonsai
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   Posted 3/16/2009 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I got colitis right after my dental work. I got colitis while I was on antibiotics. I told the dentist about it and he told me to stop antibiotics right away. GP even gave me one probiotic shot and helped me little for a month. Currently I am taking VSL#3 and help me quite bit. But spinach and sunflower seed finally gave me no D. I am not a bread person. Majority my diet was rice and sometimes pasta.

kops2da
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   Posted 3/16/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   

Yes and Yes!  In my case I had IBS for years but when I had to take a long heavy dose of Amoxicillin for mouth/gum infection I started bleeding.  I had a colonoscopy and found the UC.  I also am (but trying not to be now) heavy eater of carbs - including bread/cookies, etc. etc.  which I have read here feeds the BAD bacteria/fungus, etc.  Had my stool checked twice for c-diff infection - that is important I guess.

I think my probiotic Align helps me a lot! Returns the good bacteria that antibiotics take with it. I tried Primal Defense and Phillips but could not get past the bad gas.  (probably because of my IBS) 

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Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. for two more weeks and then down to 15 mg.etc.  Added 6-MP Feb. 28.
Added Anusol suppositories - March 16 - see doc in 3 months. 
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subdued
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   Posted 3/16/2009 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on and off antibiotics for most of my life due to:

Ear infections
Sinus infections
Skin infections
Bladder infections

One time, I was on them for two years straight for a serious skin infection. (None of the doctors had seen anything like it. The antibiotics merely kept it from getting worse. They did not make it better. It turned out the skin infection was a yeast infection of some sort. I stopped eating cheese and anything with yeast in it, and it went away on its own.)

My first flare started in August 2005. It wasn't serious. I thought I had hemorrhoids.

One year went by without any signs of Colitis.

I then got my second flare in August 2006. It was serious.

Fecal transplantation put my second flare into remission immediately.

One year went by without any signs of Colitis.

For the next year, I was on antibiotics three times, each time on slightly stronger medicines.

That's when I got my third flare in August 2008.

My colitis went into remission due to Probiotics and diet. I didn't know one could buy Probiotics when I had my second flare. That's why I did the fecal transplantation. Although Probiotics helped put me in remission, fecal transplantation worked so much faster. I plan to do fecal transplantation again.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission

Lexapro (for stress)
Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Anti-inflammatory foods: turmeric, seaweed, garlic...
Avoid: pro-inflammatory foods, HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)

Post Edited (subdued) : 3/16/2009 6:13:46 PM (GMT-6)


Peety
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   Posted 3/16/2009 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I took Accutane, then got UC within a year. It obviously killed good bacteria in my colon. There is litigation about it.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated all wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), trying Curamin. 
Flaring, seasonal? or supplements too harsh? Back on prednisone, trying 15/20 mg. Appt 3/6 to discuss Humira, etc.   


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 3/16/2009 10:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I am going to try VSL3. I think my colitis is related to the doses of antibiotics I took in 2004/2005.

Diagnosed with proctitis in March 2007 - Treated with Canasa 2x Daily
Diagnosed with UC December 08 but had symptoms months ago - Treating with Asacol 400mg (9 a day)


subdued
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   Posted 3/17/2009 12:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Today's meat and fish are often pumped up with antibiotics. I now buy my meat and fish at the local health food store. I get cheaper cuts to help offset the higher prices.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission

Lexapro (for stress)
Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Anti-inflammatory foods: turmeric, seaweed, garlic...
Avoid: pro-inflammatory foods, HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


Red_34
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   Posted 3/17/2009 7:15 AM (GMT -6)   
*Raising hand* Yes I was a heavy antibiotic user when I was first diagnosed. I had every infection under the sun at that time - bronchitis, sinus infections, ear infections, yeast infection (in my throat no less!), - you name it, I had it. And I have always been a heavy carb eater. Still am to a certain degree. But not as bad as I used to be.
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therearemiracles
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   Posted 3/17/2009 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   

No I can only think of one time in my 20's where I took antibiotics for a sinus infection. All through my 20's 30's I had really bad gas if I ate something that didn't agree with me, so at the time I guess it was IBS. Stress and fear ate away at my colon and I got ulcers. At that time I was drinking more often, binging I would say, eating whatever I wanted so bad choices all the way around. I had my DNA tested and it should I would be "predisposed" to this type of dis-ease although I may never have gotten it in my lifetime. I don't accept that this is life long b/c I didn't have it before and I know a couple of days when I had no inflammation and my stools were completely normal so I know my body can go back to the way it was, but stronger and me a little more wiser.

I would say I ate unwashed,alfalfa sprouts that left a bad bacteria in my colon and that was the straw that broke the camels back per say.


Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. STARTED LDN ON 1/25/09. Supplements:  Cod Liver, Probiotics, multi whole food vitamin, olive leaf extract.


men8ifr
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   Posted 3/17/2009 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
subdued said...
I've been on and off antibiotics for most of my life due to:

Ear infections
Sinus infections
Skin infections
Bladder infections

One time, I was on them for two years straight for a serious skin infection. (None of the doctors had seen anything like it. The antibiotics merely kept it from getting worse. They did not make it better. It turned out the skin infection was a yeast infection of some sort. I stopped eating cheese and anything with yeast in it, and it went away on its own.)

My first flare started in August 2005. It wasn't serious. I thought I had hemorrhoids.

One year went by without any signs of Colitis.

I then got my second flare in August 2006. It was serious.

Fecal transplantation put my second flare into remission immediately.

One year went by without any signs of Colitis.

For the next year, I was on antibiotics three times, each time on slightly stronger medicines.

That's when I got my third flare in August 2008.

My colitis went into remission due to Probiotics and diet. I didn't know one could buy Probiotics when I had my second flare. That's why I did the fecal transplantation. Although Probiotics helped put me in remission, fecal transplantation worked so much faster. I plan to do fecal transplantation again.

Are you in Australia - or do you travel there for the transplants?
Ian

Currently in no mans land between flare and remission


subdued
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   Posted 3/17/2009 2:00 PM (GMT -6)   
men8ifr said...
Are you in Australia - or do you travel there for the transplants?


Hi Ian,

Neither one. I did it myself using my granddaughter's feces. She was breast feeding at the time; so it was very easy. I just mixed the gooey yellow poo with warm water, put the mixture in a syringe, and put the mixture up my butt. Nothing to it.

I think some are worried about getting diseases from poo, but I really didn't see that as a risk since my granddaughter was only six months at the time. For some reason, people don't mind sharing all kinds of stuff, but when it comes to poo, they get scared. A guess it's the fact that very few people have tried fecal transplantation that scares them.

Anyway, the fecal transplantation put me immediately into remission; however, I got another flareup after being on antibiotics again. Something to take into consideration when getting fecal transplantation. You might need it again if you have to take antibiotics again.

Fecal transplantation works best for those who have been heavy users of antibiotics. It's also best to do it when you aren't flaring too badly. And I used the feces right away before any of the bacteria had a chance to die.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission

Lexapro (for stress)
Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Anti-inflammatory foods: turmeric, seaweed, garlic...
Avoid: pro-inflammatory foods, HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)

Post Edited (subdued) : 3/17/2009 1:04:03 PM (GMT-6)

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