OT: Nasal microflora and Smoking

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doors12
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   Posted 3/18/2009 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
idea  I just had an idea, what if the "benefit" of smoking on UC were to be related to changes in the microflora in, for instance, the nasal cavity.
 
I know staph for instance is carried in the nose.
 
I had this idea after I accidentally went to "clear" my nostril after having inhaled a puff from my cigarette.  The result was quite painful (I don't recommend it).  Anyhow, it made me think.  Previously I had been thinking more along the lines of cigarette smoking effecting vascular action in the gut, ie vasoconstriction etc, blood flow, intestinal permeability...
 
But I have always been suspicious of the bacterial contents of the sinuses.  Since I've had UC I tend to get really clogged nostrils.  My dad has nasal/sinus allergies really bad. 
 
I know there are probably a certain percentage of readers that my whole post will piss off.  Sorry, couldn't help it.  But if you find it interesting I'd like to hear your comments. yeah


Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
(Generic Balsalazide not as effective for me)
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
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Sara14
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   Posted 3/24/2009 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know if I understand exactly what you're saying, but it sounds like an interesting theory. I know that I started having some sinus issues about 4 months before I got UC. I always thought the sinus issues might be related to smoking. I can't really comment more on your theory because I'm not sure I fully grasp it.
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day; Rowasa; Canasa; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops; Ortho Tri-Cyclen


doors12
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   Posted 3/24/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
That's ok if you don't grasp it, i don't know if i do. lol

Really I was just thinking that smoking must affect the microflora in the nose (and mouth) and that this seems to me could affect other things. I mean doesn't the digestive tract include all that in reality? I wish dentists even would take this into consideration when they see UC patients - I will soon be seeing a dentist and will have to explain that my teeth have gone to shi* since I've had UC.
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
(Generic Balsalazide not as effective for me)
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
I hate Ulcerative Colitis and can't wait till we eradicate it
 


Northvetter
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   Posted 3/24/2009 9:16 PM (GMT -6)   

I'm a non smoker and I just found out that smokers tend to have less severe flare ups as well as less often.  Just went on 6-mp and was wondering how many cigarettes a day you have to have for the benefits.  It seems ridiculus but I think I would rather smoke a few cigarettes a day instead of taking 6-mp. As far as sinuses, I had sinus surgery 6 months before being diagnosed with pancolitis.  Go to the following site to get some info on smoking and U.C.

http://ibdcrohns.about.com/cs/ibdfaqs/a/smokingguts.htm


Asacol 800m, 4 X day.
During flare ups I take prednisone.  40mg for 10 days, then 30mg for 10 days, then 20 mg for 10 days, then 10mg for 10 days...and then 5
Diagnosed with pancolitis in February, 2008
 
Vitamin D as well as 2X 500mg Calcium a day.
On 6-MP since march 2nd, 2009.
 


pb4
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   Posted 3/24/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Research has already proven that the benefit to smoking with UC is the carbon monoxide in the nicotine has a natural anti-inflammatory affect specifically in the colon.
 


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Sara14
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   Posted 3/25/2009 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
pb4 - Research has also shown that UCers have benefited from the nicotine patch, which does not have carbon monoxide in it.

Northvetter - It's not worth it to start smoking. It might not even help you at all. It doesn't help my UC and I think it might be making it worse.
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day; Rowasa; Canasa; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops; Ortho Tri-Cyclen


Sara14
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   Posted 3/25/2009 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
P.S. - I know that smoking kills the cilia in your nose (the little hairlike thingies that keep out bad bacteria, dust, etc.), so would that play into your theory at all, doors?
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day; Rowasa; Canasa; Viactiv; Metamucil wafers; multivitamin; sublingual allergy drops; Ortho Tri-Cyclen


doors12
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   Posted 3/26/2009 3:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting, I didn't know there were cilia in your nose - I know they are in the lungs (and smoking probably does a good job destroying them there also). I don't know if that could have to do with it. I will be thinking about it...
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis 6/2006 at age 26 after sudden E.R. visit
~Pancolitis (Mild to Moderate)
 ~I had Mono in 2000
On Colazal 3x3/day; Folic Acid 1mg; Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo
(Generic Balsalazide not as effective for me)
In remission about 2-3 months after E.R. but not back to normal!
I hate Ulcerative Colitis and can't wait till we eradicate it
 


pb4
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   Posted 3/26/2009 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Smoking does affect your sense of taste and smell, but in regards to what you said above "I mean doesn't the digestive tract include all that in reality?" with UC the only part of the digestive tract that is affected is the colon/rectom (unlike with CD where it can affect the entire GI tract) so I don't really know if there would be any correlation to UC and sinus issues in the sense that you're refering to.

:)
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men8ifr
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   Posted 3/27/2009 3:26 AM (GMT -6)   
That's interesting, my boiler used to make CO and I have a CO meter tells me exactly how many ppm it makes (if any) the boiler was fixed and so it's always zero now but it could be adjusted to provide CO for me.... I could 'breathe' 5 a day for a while at a low CO level which is not life threatening - and maybe even 'calibrate' things by getting a smoker to blow into the CO meter and see what it reads...
Ian

Currently in no mans land between flare and remission

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