is tenesmus a red-flag for inflammatory bowel disease?

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WeEn
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   Posted 4/1/2009 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
from my research i am starting to think the only explanation for my continued gastrointestinal symptoms diarrhea, abdominal discomfort that has decreased dramatically since the bout of food poisoning or virus i got 3 weeks ago, thin loose stools when not having diarrhea, now recently after a dump 3 days ago i have had the constant feeling of taking a dump, like my anus is loose, it is a weird and uncomfortable sensation takin my mind off of everything else. i do not have an std, out of the question, and the fact i do have gastro intestinal issues as well, could this only lead to an inflammatory bowel disease? there is mucus in my stools frequently but no blood, and although it is loose i only go like twice a day, unless im led to believe i do have to poop and only a lil comes out. I have stool tests to turn in tomorrow and blood work checking for cdiff, white blood count i think, some other crap, and a colonscopy on monday. but i cannot wait that long while dealing with this feeling. i just want to know whats wrong with me, its the worst part about all of these symptoms is the constant worry about what i have if it will go away etc etc. i just want to know and get it out of the way so i know wut to do and how to treat whatever i have. it is amazing what such a tiny organism can do to your body, my life feels like it has been forever touched by a demon


20 year old male, smoker unfortunately but i am bout to quit or severely cut down, smoker of weed, but not ne more cuz it gives me panic attacks and makes my bum feel worst, and no family history of ne sort for gastro intestinal diseases/disorders

please help calm my mind from racing through dark dimensions no conscious should ever wonder off to

pb4
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   Posted 4/1/2009 9:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Unfortunately tenesmus as well as most of the other symptoms you describe (excluding bleeding) can all be symptoms of IBS as well, D, tenesmus, bloating, cramping, gassy, bloated, frequency, urgency D or C, mucus can all be symptoms of IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) there is never bleeding with IBS except in the case of a bleeding hemheroide(s)...a colonoscopy is the best way to rule out IBS.

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WeEn
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   Posted 4/1/2009 9:24 PM (GMT -6)   
how does it rule out ibs? if they find something then it wont be ibs? if they do then it will be some sort of colitis or ibd? i can deal with ne thing else other then this feeling in anus all day!! how do i make it stop, is there specific meds to make it stop that they can prescribe if they find ne thing, what if they dont find ne thing how would i make it go away theN?

pb4
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   Posted 4/1/2009 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I feel so bad for the distraught you're going through right now, please try and relax I know it's easier said than done but you're going to drive yourself crazy at this rate...if they find inflammation then it will likely point to some form of IBD (crohn's or ulcerative colitis) and yes, they do have meds that can usually help the majority of people. If it turns out to be IBS (no inflammation) then they also do have meds to help treat some symptoms as well, your doc will better be able to go over your options with you depending on what they find from your tests. They rule out IBS from basically doing a colonoscopy, regradless of what they do or don't find you'll have to be patient with any meds they give you, try and relax because stressing can make things worse.

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Dagger
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   Posted 4/1/2009 9:43 PM (GMT -6)   
You can have IBS and IBD at the same time.

WeEn
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   Posted 4/1/2009 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
dagger you are not helping LOL, jk well alrite ill try not to worry about it i just wanted some reassurance that this can be treatable, i just hate being alone now cuz all i do is think about it and look up all the possible diseases, symptoms, and outcomes. truly has put my mind in a dark place that i cannot seem to escape,i appreciate your help pb4, the thought that a bad bug can change a perfectly normal young adult in 3 weeks to a depressed, stressed out, anxious, lethargic kid with a 3.8 gpa who is now failing 3 of his classes and has 2 chronic gastro intestinal disorders makes me want to put a gun to my head.

pb4
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   Posted 4/1/2009 11:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Totally unerstandable how you're feeling, but sometimes we can handle bad situations if we try and stay as calm as possible, but I hate to tell you that Dagger is correct, I have both crohn's and IBS, the good news is that there are some things that can actually help out both conditions for example, probiotics, fibre supplements can both benefit IBS and IBD, same with regular exercise and avoiding as much (if not all) processed foods/beverages, fast-foods, animal fats, caffeine, refined sugar, artificial sweetners.

And hopefully as soon as you know for sure what you're dealing with and get treatment then things will turn around for the better.


Hang in there, lots of us (if not most) have been exactly where you are, it happend to me when I was young (23 turning 24) and with a new baby, life is scary but it's all about putting things in perspective.

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Christine1946
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   Posted 4/2/2009 6:11 AM (GMT -6)   
    
     WEen....ask your doctor for something for your stress.  It certainly isn't helping your colon any.  Believe me, I know from past experience how much stress contributes to this disease.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Update 11/03/08...finally in remission!!  Hope I don't jinx myself.  Off the prednisone since 11/01/08...now see if I can stay off for longer than two weeks.  Other meds: 6MP (75 mgm), colazal (6 per day), Benicar and Toprol (high blood pressure meds), Probiotic (2 per day), fish oil capsule and multi-vitamin and calcium with vitamin D.


WeEn
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   Posted 4/2/2009 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok i will ask them cuz i try as hard as i can to not worry about it but it seems impossible, i have never even experienced these kind of emotions, so wut would b a good diet to take up, i feel like dairy mite b irritating my system cuz it seems if i eat alotta of diary like ice cream cuz my parents been shovin it down my throat cuz ive lost so much weight, but when i eat it i think later on it makes my stomach like vibrate and also random other parts of my body suddenly vibrate or spasm, its no painful, i can even see it like contracting like sudden movements, its uncomfortable and the process produces alotta of gas that moves around my body and gurgles alot, i SWEAR in class today it was like a 15 second ****ing gurgle, 15 seconds!! like a long continuous one, it was so loud that the entire class just stopped and turned and looked at me!!! so embarassing.... i had to leave the class because i was so embarassed that my stomach was so loud the entire time

Christine1946
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   Posted 4/2/2009 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
     Ice cream is probably one of the worse things you can eat right now.  Maybe your parents, or at least one of them, should read up on UC.  The best diet to follow while flaring is a low-residue one.  You don't want to consume foods rich in fiber.  Instead of milk, try Silk.  It isn't bad tasting at all.  The only cereal I eat while flaring is Rice Krispies.  I put a tablespoon of Red Mill Whole Ground Flaxseed Meal on top.   You can purchase it in the grocery store.  Make sure it is the flaxseed meal and not just the ground flaxseed as anything more course could irritate the colon.  I eat Activia yogurt for lunch or turkey breast.  Baked salmon does wonders for the gut too.  I eat it three times a week when flaring.  Vegetables are ok as long as they are cooked thoroughly and soft.  Good luck.
62 yr old granny. South Jersey
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1998 in hospital
Hospitalized (2nd time) in May 2008
Update 11/03/08...finally in remission!!  Hope I don't jinx myself.  Off the prednisone since 11/01/08...now see if I can stay off for longer than two weeks.  Other meds: 6MP (75 mgm), colazal (6 per day), Benicar and Toprol (high blood pressure meds), Probiotic (2 per day), fish oil capsule and multi-vitamin and calcium with vitamin D.


WeEn
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   Posted 4/2/2009 11:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I hate this so much i dont know what to do, i would take any thing except for this constant feeling in my rectum, i cannot find anybody that this has happened to and the feeling stayed for longer then 4 days and if it has, it seems like it has lasted for years after wards, what if they dont find any thing in my colonscopy.. what am i going to do i cannot function like this it will drive me crazy i cannot wait another 3 days for my colonscopy this is torture, i made it all day without thinking about it or worrying at all but once i crawl in bed i cant do ne thing else

pb4
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   Posted 4/2/2009 11:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there WeEn, three days will be here before you know it, there's really nothing you can do until then, but don't stress so much, you don't want to risk aggrivating things more.


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quincy
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   Posted 4/3/2009 12:01 AM (GMT -6)   
WeEn...as much as that feeling is the worst..for me as well...you have to go through the clean-out, and that could cause a tad more discomfort.

The doctor will be taking biopsies and on a visual he can hopefully start you on meds to deal with the inflammation. Once you get the report of the biopsies, hopefully you'll have confirmation on a diagnosis and you will see improvement soon afterward.

What clean-out are you using for the c-scope?

I too agree with you to not consume too many milk products or high fibre foods such as fruits or uncooked veggies. Can you have protein? can you eat eggs? they are definitely a good protein and easy to digest.

Hang tough....we've all been compromised when going through first flares and no answers....although you don't know what you have as of yet, what you're experiencing is near impossible to ignore.

Keep us updated as to how you're doing.

Oh, welcome to the forum if I haven't already extended that yet.

quincy
*Heather* Status..Asacol  (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares, tapered to maintenance  mild flare nightly enemas
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls, Natural Factors Ultimate). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed; started Omega 3 
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


WeEn
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   Posted 4/3/2009 1:45 PM (GMT -6)   
i am using a 255 g bottle of miralax and i have to take another pill with that 2 times in the day and that begins with a d ill get it later when i have the instructions on me, then just sticking to a clear liquid diet for a day? like i took 17 gs of miralax one time and it cleared me out, i cannot imagine what 255 g's is going to do, that is giong to destroy me. thanks for all your help u guys have been so helpful it always calms me down when i see a reply in my email :)

hana24
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   Posted 4/3/2009 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I went to a doctor once who explained IBS and IBD like this: If you have IBD(UC) then obviously your colon is Irritated. Definitely if you have pan colitis. I always thought I had IBS for a few years anyway and then when I went on pred for the first time I had normal stools it was so strange for me. My doctor said pred would not do anything for IBS so I don't have it unless I have a flare and then I have both. Anyway good luck tommorow, Hopefully they are putting you under and then when you wake up you will feel better than you have ever felt at least for a few hours :)
Jessica 27/F
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