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Shadam
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   Posted 4/4/2009 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been taking a mens multi vitamin that has 400iu of Vitamin D and 90mg of Vitamin C.  I went to my local pharmacy today to potentially purchase an added Vitamin.  I looked at both D and C and noticed that they both regulate and enhance bone health and immune system health. 
 
I'm more interested in enhancing the immunce system health but which Vitamin should I get?  Also if I get more Vitamin D should I get 400iu or 1000iu and if I get more Vitmain C, how many more miligrams should i get?
 
Any help would be appreciated...thanks!
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Mens Multi Vitamin - 1 a day
Metamucil Wafers - Once a day
Jaro - Dophilus Probiotic (3.4 Billion) - 1 a day
Diagnosed with PSC: 3/9 --now taking Urso


princesa
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   Posted 4/4/2009 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Vitamin D's getting a LOT of good press lately. Check out these articles:

http://www.mercola.com/article/vitamin-d-resources.htm

Both C and D would be beneficial... why choose one or the other?

Try 1000-3000 mg of vitamin C a day. Look for the powder in mineral ascorbate form. 800-1200 IU a day of vitamin D is recommended. The best way is to get out in the sunshine with your skin exposed and without sunscreen or you can take oral supplements. Look for D3.
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   Posted 4/4/2009 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
On my doctor's recommendation, I take 1000 units of vitamin D3 each day, along with calcium with vitamin D. My skin is extremely sun-sensitive, so I get my D from supplements.
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bookworm21
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   Posted 4/4/2009 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I've read that adults can take up to 1000 IU of vitamin D3 per day. You can also get your blood checked for vitamin D levels, and then see how much extra vitamin D you actually need.
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9 Asacol, Rowasa1000 mg Canasa, Proctofoam, Rifaximin 2/day
Digestive Advantage (Crohn's & Colitis)1 Florastor, 50 mg 6MP,1 Primadophilus reuteri, Remicade (7 infusions), 2.4 g Lialda, Forvia, 6 Colazal, 1 Anucort, Culturelle, Fish Oil, Calcium/Vit D supplement, 20 mg Prozac, VSL #3 DS, Turmeric
 


Shadam
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   Posted 4/4/2009 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for everyones response.  Does it matter what brand of Vitamin D i get, is it ok to get a store brand like CVS?
 
This might sound like a dumb question but if I'm already taking a multi vitamin that has 400ui in it, should I only get a seperate vitamin D supplement that has 400iu?  If I get the 1000iu, that would equate to 1400iu of Vitamin D a day which seems like a lot. 
 
Thanks!
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Mens Multi Vitamin - 1 a day
Metamucil Wafers - Once a day
Jaro - Dophilus Probiotic (3.4 Billion) - 1 a day
Diagnosed with PSC: 3/9 --now taking Urso


Shadam
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   Posted 4/4/2009 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
2 more questions, what is the difference between Vitamin D and D3?
 
Also, is it cool to get a calcium supplement with Vitaman D/D3 mixed in?
 
Thanks!
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Mens Multi Vitamin - 1 a day
Metamucil Wafers - Once a day
Jaro - Dophilus Probiotic (3.4 Billion) - 1 a day
Diagnosed with PSC: 3/9 --now taking Urso


Dr-A
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   Posted 4/4/2009 11:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I have the blood test sitting on my counter right now. Got from grassrootshealth.net. Cheapest place you'll find it and get your results. I paid $30, most places I found charged over 100. If my levels are low I will be really suprised.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Lialda 1 day
Immuran
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
Vitamin E Enemas as needed
Probiotis/GreenTea/VitD+Ca/SuperDHA


Shadam
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   Posted 4/5/2009 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Dr.A, do you know the difference between Vitamin D and D3?
 
 
Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Mens Multi Vitamin - 1 a day
Metamucil Wafers - Once a day
Jaro - Dophilus Probiotic (3.4 Billion) - 1 a day
Diagnosed with PSC: 3/9 --now taking Urso


Dr-A
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   Posted 4/5/2009 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I could type out the difference but it's best if you just go read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D

D3 is just a form of Vitamin D.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Lialda 1 day
Immuran
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
Vitamin E Enemas as needed
Probiotis/GreenTea/VitD3+Ca/SuperDHA


tap
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   Posted 4/15/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I got my results back from grassrootshealth.net today. 38 ng/mL with a recommendation on the site of between 40 and 60 ng/mL. 38 ng/mL doesn't seem too far off except I had been doing 5000 IU of Vitamin D3 a day for close to 8 weeks prior to taking and sending in the blood sample.

I started taking Vitamin D3 in early February because I was having weekly swings of depressed feelings starting in early January. Once I started the Vitamin D3, my depressed feelings vanished very swiftly. Since my colonoscopy in February I have been battling a flare and its the first time I have had a flare and have not felt depressed because of the flare.

- Tom
43 - male
Flaxseed (2 tablespoons ground) - once per day; Vitamin D3 - 5000 IU once per day;
Asacol - 2 400mg pills 3 times per day
Diagnosed with pancolitis about a decade ago


Dr-A
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   Posted 4/15/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Gee, imagine if you hadn't supplemented. How long did it take them to get you results back? Think I sent mine in last Monday. Was talking with my aunt that has MS over the weekend. She supplements with almost 10,000IU per recommendation of her specialist. Her levels were non-existant.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Lialda 1 day
Immuran
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
Vitamin E Enemas as needed
Probiotis/GreenTea/VitD3+Ca/SuperDHA


Delarge
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   Posted 4/15/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Unless you're exposing yourself to sunlight on a consistent basis, I would recommend a daily dose of at least 1,000 IU of vitamin D3. As for vitamin C, 500mg should be sufficient if your intake of fruits and vegetables is adequate. It might be advisable to request blood work in order to determine serum concentrations of various vitamins and minerals so as to pinpoint what does and does not require attention.

tap
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   Posted 4/15/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
It took just under 2 weeks for an email message to arrive noting that my results were available.
43 - male
Flaxseed (2 tablespoons ground) - once per day; Vitamin D3 - 5000 IU once per day;
Asacol - 2 400mg pills 3 times per day
Diagnosed with pancolitis about a decade ago


Lonie
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   Posted 4/15/2009 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting -- I started Vitamin D just last week after my good friend insisted I start taking it. Just today I realized that I've felt better than I have in a long time, meaning I don't have the gas and irritable feeling in my bowels. My husband also found an article about how helpful some "experts" are finding Vitamin D to be in a myriad of ailments. He's taking it for Kidney problems. I noted on my friends bottle of Vitamin D that it was good for colon health also, so that's why I decided to try it. I'm taking Vitamin D-3, 2000 IU's.
Carol

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Shadam
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   Posted 4/15/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I started taking a Calcium with Vitamin D3 pill on Sunday in addition to my daily multi vitamin pill.  I'm now on 800iu of vitamin D and just over 1200mg's of calcium.  I dont know if its because of the probiotic that i just started but I feel realllly good (knock on wood).

Age: 25 / Male / Florida
Diagnosed: 11/08 / Pancolitis
Asacol - 2 x 3 day (waiting for results)
Prednisone / ended 1/09 (started at 30mgs and tapered down)
Mens Multi Vitamin - 1 a day
Metamucil Wafers - Once a day
Jaro - Dophilus Probiotic (3.4 Billion) - 1 a day
Diagnosed with PSC: 3/9 --now taking Urso


bookworm21
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   Posted 4/15/2009 8:17 PM (GMT -6)   
My vitamin D levels are 23 ng/ml. My PCP has me taking 1800 IUs per day.
Female, Age 20
9 Asacol, Rowasa1000 mg Canasa, Proctofoam, Rifaximin 2/day
Digestive Advantage (Crohn's & Colitis)1 Florastor, 50 mg 6MP,1 Primadophilus reuteri, Remicade (7 infusions), 2.4 g Lialda, Forvia, 6 Colazal, 1 Anucort, Culturelle, Fish Oil, Calcium/Vit D supplement, 20 mg Prozac, VSL #3 DS, Turmeric
 


Dr-A
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   Posted 4/17/2009 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Got my results today. Looks like I am at 39 ng/ml. As much as I am outside in the sun, that's still pretty low. Have to rethink the number of days I supplement during the week. I would rather be at the top of the scale than at the bottom. Think I'll get my wife to do hers next.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Lialda 1 day
Immuran
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
Vitamin E Enemas as needed
Probiotis/GreenTea/VitD3+Ca/SuperDHA


pb4
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   Posted 4/17/2009 8:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I take vitamin C-Calcium Ascorbate (easier on the gut)....

Vitamin C, also known as ascorbic acid, is necessary for the growth, development and repair of all body tissues. It's involved in many body functions, including formation of collagen, absorption of iron, the immune system, wound healing, and the maintenance of cartilage, bones, and teeth.

Vitamin C is one of many antioxidants that can protect against damage caused by harmful molecules called free radicals, as well as toxic chemicals and pollutants like cigarette smoke. Free radicals can build up and contribute to the development of health conditions such as cancer, heart disease, and arthritis.

Vitamin C is not stored in the body (excess amounts are excreted), so overdose is not a concern. But it's still important not to exceed the safe upper limit of 2,000 milligrams a day to avoid stomach upset and diarrhea.

Water-soluble vitamins must be continuously supplied in the diet to maintain healthy levels. Eat vitamin-C-rich fruits and vegetables raw, or cook them with minimal water so you don't lose some of the water-soluble vitamin in the cooking water.

Vitamin C is easily absorbed both in food and in pill form, and it can enhance the absorption of iron when the two are eaten together.

Deficiency of vitamin C is relatively rare, and primarily seen in malnourished adults. In extreme cases, it can lead to scurvy -- characterized by weakness, anemia, bruising, bleeding, and loose teeth.

How to Get More Vitamin C in Your Diet
This antioxidant super-nutrient is found in a variety of fruits and vegetables. Yet, according to dietary intake data and the 2005 U.S. Dietary Guidelines, most adults don't get enough vitamin C in their diets. This is especially true of smokers and non-Hispanic black males, according to research done by Jeff Hampl, PhD, RD, and colleagues at the University of Arizona.

The foods richest in vitamin C are citrus fruits, green peppers, strawberries, tomatoes, broccoli, white potatoes, and sweet potatoes. Other good sources include dark leafy greens, cantaloupe, papaya, mango, watermelon, brussels sprouts, cauliflower, cabbage, red peppers, raspberries, blueberries, winter squash, and pineapples.

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