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achey
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   Posted 4/9/2009 6:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
 
I just wanted to say that it is great to find this website.  I was diagnosed with UC when I was 11 and then went into remission when I was about 25 - I didn't have it for years and it all flared up again when I was pregnant a couple of years ago, I havnt been able to get back into remission, but I've just kind of settled for taking sulfasalazine, as I really didn't want to have steriods - Im still going to the loo about 5 times a day but I don't have that really terrible urgent tummy pain when I need to go, just my body and joints ache all the time, and some days worse than others.  Sorry for this long rambling message but its just so nice to find other people with UC as I didn't know this sort of forum existed!
 
PS I started reading stuff about sugar cravings - is that just that particular drug, or is it something to do with UC in itself because I don't take that drug, and I crave sugar all the time - maybe I just have a really sweet tooth!  Also, do people find that sugar causes joint pain to worsen?   

kim123
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   Posted 4/9/2009 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi achey,

Welcome to Healingwell! You have happened upon a wonderful community of support.

As I read your post, I was struck by a few things you said...cravings of sugar and achy joints. Both of these things "can be" attributed to a fungal condition. Fungi can cause arthritis by either affecting the joint directly, usually spreading via the blood from the primary infection (e.g. the lungs or intestines), or they may indirectly affect a joint by giving off fungal poisons or "mycotoxins." As for the sugar cravings, fungi need sugar/grains to thrive. If you do have a fungal condition, eating sugar/grains will continue to feed it, almost like a parasite.

I guess if you want a clear answer to see if this pertains to you, you could eliminate all foods that feed fungus, (i.e. sugar, grains, yeast-containing foods), and take prescription or natural antifungals.

Here is an article you may find interesting on yeast and inflammation, and speaks of sugar cravings:

http://www.know-the-cause.com/NewsLetterArticles/tabid/69/newsid449/11/Pending---YEAST-AND-INFLAMMATION-/Default.aspx

pb4
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   Posted 4/9/2009 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Processed/refined sugar is an inflammatory and can cause many health issues....if you happen to be craving sugar then there's a good chance that you have some major bacterial overgrowth-sugar loves to feed on bacteria...I used to be a sugar addict, I'm so glad I've given it up, it was very hard but I've managed through it and have so much more energy, my skin, hair and nails are in such great condition too and no more crazy mood swings either.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


achey
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   Posted 4/10/2009 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kim123 and PB4,
 
Thank you for your responses.  In particular the 'know the cause' article was really interesting (if a little scary!) I do recognise a lot of the syptoms they mention on there.  I will definately try to cut out sugar and grain.  You seem to know quite a lot about this - did you have it? - I guess what I am wondering is did you manage to eliminate it?
 
I wonder if you know a good anti-fungal non-prescription supplement I could take?  Also, I wonder how quickly I could expect to see results, i.e within a few weeks or would it take longer do you think?
 
Thank you so much for your help and advice, I feel quite inspired now to try to resolve this problem that I didn't know I had!
 
PS Kim123 I am currently training to be a Primary school teacher - I see that you are an elementary teacher which I think is the equivalent of our Primary here in the UK - perhaps it is the stress levels from teaching which cause the yeast!
 
Achey.

kim123
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   Posted 4/10/2009 2:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Achey,

Yeah, I do believe stress has a lot to do with it :) My very first "flare" happened right after the birth of my firstborn. Interestingly, it was immediately after the birth of my second that one of my flares vanished, overnight. I don't need to tell you that have UC and being a teacher is no fun, since you are told when you are allowed to go to the bathroom.

I had UC symptoms for 8 years before I stumbled upon the fungus link "theory", actually from the gentleman who has done much research on fungus, from the knowthecause website. I decided to try the antifungal route as nothing else worked, and it did make common (and scientific) sense to me after reading up on it. Really not expecting I would get better (my doctors told me I would be wasting my time), after 2 weeks of strictly following it, along with taking mega-doses olive leaf extract (a natural antifungal), I felt like a new woman. I continued on a phase 2 of the diet for probably the next 4-5 months, allowing myself "treats" from time to time, as well as continuing my antifungals. You need to rotate them monthly, or the fungus gets smart! I rotated with caprylic acid or a yeast cleanse supplement containing a compilation of antifungals.

I say, experiment with it for a fair 2 weeks, with the antifungals, and if you notice improvement in 2 weeks, you can suppose your condition is fungal. Then you can continue on that path. Be careful, however. I felt so much worse when I first started (fungal toxin die-off). Not everyone experiences it, but be ready in case you need to take a few days for yourself. You may have varied flu-like symptoms, aches and pains, major D, headaches, foggy brain, etc. Hopefully, you won't have that, but if you do, it is another indication you probably have a fungus problem. Today, I am symptomless and med-free.

Today I also take probiotics, which I highly recommend, and beta-glucan, an immune booster. I don't take the antifungals regularly anymore, but now and again, for maintenance. I eat pretty well most foods again (except yeast-containing ones) in moderation. I do limit sugar as I know it is not good for me. I know this is the path I must take, but that's alright with me. Much better than running to the loo every time I turn around :)

Good luck. You can email me if you like for further clarification, or just some support if you decide to try it.

Kim

achey
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   Posted 4/10/2009 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Kim,

Thank you for your response.  Its so strange when you read what happens to other people and its so similar. Although I had had UC when I was a child, I had been in remission for years - it really came back with a vengeance when I had my little boy and I believe that could be for several reasons, hormonal changes or the fact that I had a very bad labour which went on for days and then ended in an emergency C-section, followed by basically no sleep at all (my son had really bad colic) for about a year, so i think it was basically lots of stress to the body, but as with you it did really start straight after he was born.

Anyway, I had a couple of questions for you - thank you so much for your really detailed response.  I just wanted to clarify a couple of bits.  I have ordered some pro-biotics already today so thats a good start, and will order some of the natural anti-fungal things you suggested.  In relation to the diet you did, did you just design a diet for yourself eg just cutting out sugar and other bits, or did you actually follow a specific diet that you read in a book somewhere or got online? If there's a book you bought I will order it.

Thanks again for your help - it's really good to hear of somebody who had managed to actually resolve the problem.  Also, can I ask, do you still take drugs for your UC, or now that you have resolved the yeast issue do you find that the UC is under control anyway? 

Achey.

 


kim123
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   Posted 4/10/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Achey-

Don't buy any book! The diet you want to follow is given free! and is actually on the knowthecause.com. Look under the FAQ section. Halfway down, the diet is listed. Or follow this link:

http://www.know-the-cause.com/aboutUs/OurFrequentlyAskedQuestions/tabid/77/Default.aspx

I can send you some basic ideas of what I ate, if you want to email me. I don't want to take up valuable forum space here. Also, you may find some of the past articles written on that website interesting to read.

I would not spend any money on anything (books, etc.) other than food for the diet and natural antifungals. Even though his books are very informative, don't spend any money at this time. If you find you have a fungal condition, you may wish to pursue it further. That's a personal matter.

And, no, I am not on any prescription meds for UC or anything else at this time. After I got well, I weaned myself off them as my doctor told me I'd be on them the rest of my life. Yikes! I know, I was a baaaaaad girl for doing that, but I feel so much better off them, than I did when I was taking them. Weird. I eat to live now, not live to eat.
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