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Shadam
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   Posted 4/27/2009 6:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I know that us UCers should try to avoid sugar at all costs.  It seems like everything we eat has at least some sugar in it.  Does anyone know how much sugar is ok to take in a day?  I know it all depends on the person but I just wanted to get an idea.
 
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kops2da
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   Posted 4/27/2009 7:00 PM (GMT -6)   

I would be interested in knowing if there is a minimal amount we should ingest.  I eat a LOT of sugar.  Almost in remission and have not really seen any difference when I cut back on sugar.

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


Dr-A
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:08 PM (GMT -6)   
10-12 teaspoons a day added sugar depending on which organizations recommendation you look at. 1 soft drink will finish that off.
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pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
In Canada I believe the food guide suggests no more than 10g/day total...I think 10-12 tsps is an awful lot myself especially if you're talking added which wouldn't even include what's in processed foods/beverages.
 
One gram of sugar is less than a teaspoonful. It would take four grams of sugar to equal one teaspoon....and I think there's about 26g in one can of pop.


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My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

Post Edited (pb4) : 4/27/2009 7:33:37 PM (GMT-6)


subdued
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow! That is a lot of sugar for one day.

I'm currently on a low sugar diet. I don't know how much I'm getting, because it can be added to many foods. But I don't think I'm getting much.

If I have one decaf coffee with four teaspoons of sugar added, my poo won't be as well-formed. I thought that was a lot of sugar. I hadn't realized one soft drink contained even more.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:34 PM (GMT -6)   
hey subdued I thought you couldn't have sugar cuz of your fructose intolerance.

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My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


kops2da
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   

I would like to know how too much sugar affects your UC.  I don't see any problem and sometimes I must have at least 1/2 cup or more a day on/in things.  I do not drink soda or fruit juice but I eat cookies, bread, jam, peanut butter, etc. etc.  I am still on 20 mg. prednisone and 50 mg. 6 MP - no D or blood but little mucous and gas!  No more than 3 BM's a day - usually one or two.

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
It's inflammatory, google sugar and it's affects...not only can it exacerbate IBD and IBS symptoms but there are tons of other inflammatory diseases related to sugar and cancer, learning disabilities...there's tons of info on google.

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My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

Post Edited (pb4) : 4/27/2009 8:14:24 PM (GMT-6)


bookworm21
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   

I'm trying to decrease my sugar intake, but it's so difficult! I've cut down to a max. of 3 sweets per day (well, on most days).

Does anyone know of drinks that are low in sugar? I drink Powerade (14 g per 8 oz), Vitamin Water (13 g per 8 oz), and Carnation Instant Breakfast (18 g per packet).


kops2da
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:20 PM (GMT -6)   

Ok - I don't google but I do "ask.com".  Anyway, I ask about sugar and UC and got three answers - saw many more saying about same thing.  Of course, I know too much sugar - too much of a lot of things is bad for us in many way.  I do eat very lowfat because my body does not process fat well.  Here are part of the articles...many of the other foods I cannot tolerate but sugar is not one of them...I am surprised that I am not diabetic - sugar remains under 100.  I am obese but have been for most of 60 years.  Hey, I will probably die of something like getting hit by a truck.  However, I am trying to eat more balanced and less sugar - certainly good for me!

 

"Some studies have shown that high sugar intake is associated with an increase in risk for UC.1 2 Other research has failed to find any association between UC and sugar intake.3 4 Until more is known, persons with inflammatory bowel diseases, including UC, should consider limiting their intake of sugar.
 Despite the fact there is no scientific proof, many people with ulcerative colitis have found that one or more of the following foods can trigger their GI symptoms:
alcohol - do not drink any
caffeine - Does not bother me
carbonated beverages -bother me
dairy products, if lactose intolerant no problems
dried beans, peas, and legumes bother me
dried fruits, berries, fruits with pulp or seeds bother
foods containing sulfur or sulfate no problems
foods high in fiber, including whole-grain products do not eat
hot sauce, pepper
meats no problems lowfat
nuts, crunchy nut butters eat only smooth pb
popcorn yikes
products containing sorbitol (sugar-free gum and candies) give me D
raw vegetables very small amounts
refined sugar no problems
seeds bother
spicy foods, sauces

"Healthcare providers recommend that people with ulcerative colitis avoid foods that seem to worsen symptoms. Because each person is different, it's important for you to take an active role in finding out which, if any, foods tend to make your symptoms worse.
 
Avoiding these foods and eating a nutritious diet may help control your symptoms, but these healthy choices will probably need to be made for life. If you are able to control your disease by changing the foods you eat, you may not need to take medications.
 
Some people with ulcerative colitis find that the following foods seem to make their symptoms worse:
 
Dairy products
Spicy foods
Chocolate
Caffeinated beverages, such as coffee, some teas, and some soft drinks
Alcoholic beverages
Certain raw fruits and vegetables, especially broccoli, cabbage, apples, and carrots.
 
If raw fruits and vegetables cause you problems, you may want to try them cooked. Or, you can try to find other fruits and vegetables that don't make your symptoms worse.
 
Other foods that make ulcerative colitis symptoms worse in some people include:
 
Popcorn
Fruit juices
Beans
Onions
Artificial sweeteners, such as sorbitol or mannitol
High-fat foods, such as butter, red meat, avocados, nuts, and fried foods.
 
Eating smaller, more frequent meals may also help you feel better."
 

 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


kops2da
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks pb4.  Those sites certainly showed a possible link to diet and RISK of UC or Crohns.  I am 69 and just developed UC last year.  Probably too much sugar was a factor - no one really knows for sure.  I take probiotics and the only symptom I can see from sugar would be GAS on some days.  Looks like I eat mostly the best sugars - honey - refined but not much sucrolose, etc. - I read packages.

Thanks!

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
No problem kops2da, I'm glad you're looking to eating/drinking healthier and hey, it's never too late to start that's for sure..I myself will only use stevia or honey and to be honest I don't rely on those too much either, I eat plenty of fruit and veggies so I get my healthy sugars that way (to help keep glucose levels in check, not that I have issues with glucose)...my brother became diabetic due to high sugar intake, he's your age (60) and it took him a while but he's adjusted well to stevia, he really likes it. One of the worst culprits is sugar alcohols (anything ending in "tol" sorbitol, zylitol, malitol, ect) those can really do a number on IBD and IBS with causing D, bloating, gas so I'm glad you're a lable reader, it's very important to take our health into our hands and know what we're eating/drinking.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


kops2da
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:47 PM (GMT -6)   

I so agree with all you write.  I have not been able to tolerate sugar alcohols for a long time  because have had IBS for 30 years.  I do not like fruit and veggies but try to eat a little every day always well cooked or canned.  Hard to teach old dogs new tricks - hee hee!

Looks like I have to correct my signature as I am taking 20 mg. prednisone and 50 mg. 6 MP and still waiting to hear from promedthius test and CDC.  I will call tomrorow if I don't get a call.  I want to get off the prednisone as soon as I can - assuming the 6MP is working - who knows?  Been taking it almost 3 months but when raised to 75mg. could not tolerate the side effects.

ElaineNY

 


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Well I hope this level they have you on works out well for you then...you don't like fruit???? LOL that seems so odd to me when people say that cuz I was such a sweets-junky that I gave up candy and junk like that and substituted it with fruit and the more fruit I eat (and now no more candy at all) the more I love fruit, I was never big on veggies until I got pregnant with my daughter (who's 19 yrs old now) she was my first pregnancy and I ate everything under the sun, stuff I would never have eaten before that pregnancy including shrimp and seafood, I don't know how I lived without it before that...our bodies can be so strange eh...then with my son I craved Taco Bell (GROSS EH) thank goodness I stopped craving it after he was born (he loves it by the way, I cannot stop him from eating it).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


subdued
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   Posted 4/28/2009 12:59 AM (GMT -6)   
pb4 said...
hey subdued I thought you couldn't have sugar cuz of your fructose intolerance.

:)


I can't eat foods high in fructose or that contain HFCS.

Cane sugar isn't the same as fructose; however, I have noticed my BMs aren't as well-formed when I have decaf coffee with sugar added; so I try to avoid it. It's really difficult though.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)

Post Edited (subdued) : 4/28/2009 12:11:07 AM (GMT-6)


subdued
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   Posted 4/28/2009 1:05 AM (GMT -6)   
bookworm21 said...
I'm trying to decrease my sugar intake, but it's so difficult! I've cut down to a max. of 3 sweets per day (well, on most days).

Does anyone know of drinks that are low in sugar? I drink Powerade (14 g per 8 oz), Vitamin Water (13 g per 8 oz), and Carnation Instant Breakfast (18 g per packet).


Don't be fooled by vitamin water like I was. It often contains crystalline fructose. Crystalline fructose and HFCs are very similar. They both come from corn. Crystalline fructose is even worse than HFCS. It goes through some extra processing causing it to contain close to 100% fructose.

Powerade contains HFCS, which causes obesity.

I don't know what Carnation Instant Breakfast contains.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Colitis Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission
Don't expect your doctor to cure your health problems. Your health is your responsibility.

Lexapro (for stress), Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Avoid HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
When flaring: eat anti-inflammatory foods, avoid pro-inflammatory foods
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)

Post Edited (subdued) : 4/28/2009 12:10:16 AM (GMT-6)


princesa
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   Posted 4/28/2009 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Not only is sugar inflammatory, but it feeds bad gut flora which can cause or worsen a gut ecological imbalance... namely candida overgrowth. It also has been shown to suppress the immune system for hours after consumption.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, l-glutamine, vitamin D and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice. Oregano oil antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free diet. Long-term remission with only minor blips.
 
 


kops2da
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   Posted 4/28/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   

Looks like I eat all wrong except for lowfat.  I already take an immune suppressant.  Reading about candida I am lucky not to have those symptoms. I think the probiotic Align I take is helping!

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


pb4
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   Posted 4/28/2009 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
subdued said...
pb4 said...
hey subdued I thought you couldn't have sugar cuz of your fructose intolerance.

:)


I can't eat foods high in fructose or that contain HFCS.

Cane sugar isn't the same as fructose; however, I have noticed my BMs aren't as well-formed when I have decaf coffee with sugar added; so I try to avoid it. It's really difficult though.

Yes, it doesn't surprise me that when you have table sugar that you find it changes your BM formation a bit...have you ever tried Stevia?  It's what I used to substitute table sugar (which I myself never used often either) I found for me that it is a great alternative.
 
:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


kops2da
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   Posted 4/28/2009 1:13 PM (GMT -6)   

I tried Stevia and found it bitter/aftertaste but someone here suggested I try the new brand out - I think called TRUVIA - made from Stevia but gentler/smoother tasting.  I am going to look for it - I think Walmart has it.

ElaineNY


 
Senior - New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008   Tried, Colozal, steroid enemas, etc. - started working but severe side effects occurred. No mesalamines!!
Started on prednisone Feb.7, 2009 - tapering to 20 mg. - upped prenisone to 25mg. on my own (bleeding returned) - 6MP - 50 mg. 2/28/2009 
75mg. 6 MP added on 4/8/2009 - waiting for CBC and Prometheus tests
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 

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