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therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/5/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Heather,
My doc is prescribing Bentel for my spasams. I ususally having them first in the morning with my 1hour long bathroom troubles. When should I take the pill and does it work right away. What side effects do you experience, will I feel loopy or too relax to function?
Thanks,
 
Linda
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Linda.....It takes me about a half hour to start feeling some of the effects. I don't feel loopy at all, but can feel it "wash over me" that I realise I'm somewhat less anxious, let's say if I was feeling it before going somewhere and my gut was being wonky. It does tend to "relax" my eyesight a bit sometimes, and other times not....depending on how tired I am....and I have to make sure I'm aware of it when driving of course and doing haircuts..lol..oopsie, what that your ear? NOT! bwahahah...

What dosage did the doc have you start at? Hope 10mg and not higher.
It's very bitter...so make sure you drink water right away when putting it in your mouth..unless there are coated ones in the US...but mine are horrific..ugh.

I would suggest you take them at night and just before eating when you get up in the morning....

When I started taking them 20 years ago, there was one form that was 30mg but on a time released action.....worked awesomely!! Then it was discontinued...so went to 10mg for almost 15 years...then graduated to 20 during a most stressful time. I've just stuck with that.

Let me know how it works for you.

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   

Thank you for responding. I don't know the mg, but i know to be careful. See I took Lomotil once just 1/2 of a tab OMG I was stoned in bed, I could think but not move my limbs for tow hours it seemed then I was ok for the day. I will be careful and I will let you know how it goes. Tomorrow I'm off my Cipro, it's been ok so far. I find salads tear me up! Thank you and Happy Mother's Day!

Linda


Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Please check out the bottle and what the mg is...or if you have the prescription, check what's written.

Or...if you have the pills themselves, a 10 or 20 will be printed on the tab itself..

So, which one do you have?

Lomotil made me stoned too....lol

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:57 PM (GMT -6)   
10mg is what was called in, I'm picking it up after work. So take one before bed? Will this help in the morning when I go?

Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/5/2009 3:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi...You'll have to try different times to take it. If your doc said when you get up, maybe that's a good time.

Or, take one at supper, one in the morning...

How long after you get up do you have the urges to go?.

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


Dr-A
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   Posted 5/5/2009 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL, I guess I am missing that effect of the Lomitil. I have even taken two at once, and got nothing but the dry mouth.
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therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
when I roll over to my left side in the morning instantly I have to run to the bathroom, there is no waiting. Today was a better day. I'm off Cipro now, I took it for 6 1/2 days even though I found out I don't have a UTI I just stayed on it anyways b/c of the bacteria gut imbalance. I didn't take the last 3 does it really matter? My doc said just take it for at least 4 days at then get off, that was my OBGYN. I know now I can't eat salad or spicy stuff. Oh and I called my hemmroid/rectal doc and they said it sounds like a fistula, but can't say for sure unless they look and they are mailing me some cream to help with the pain its more than just hydrocortoson it nitroglycerin, but it won't heal it, it just helps with the pain and relaxing the muscle to go to the bathroom. I know thats what my problem is with the burning I've been having. Althought when I don't go to the bathroom as much it doesn't hurt as much. I hope I'm wrong and it's just a bad hemmroid and not a fistula. When I go to the bathroom the inflammation make my whole bottom come out and that's when I saw what look like a hole, but when I'm done pooping it all goes back up on it's own. It's gross.

Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


Red_34
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
I take Bentyl in the mornings because it (Bentyl) only lasts about 6 hours. So if you take it before you go to bed, it *might* help with the morning urges. My urges usually don't hit until about an hour after I wake up.

Btw, Heather, the Bentyl here in the states come in capsule form and it has absolutely no taste. :)
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quincy
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   Posted 5/6/2009 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Sherry....aint that cool it's in capsule form...
you should take a taste one day ... just because...lol!

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


quincy
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Total Posts : 30986
   Posted 5/6/2009 9:34 PM (GMT -6)   
therearemiracles....did you try the Bentyl yet?

I don't know what to advise on the antibiotic...I've never had to use the cipro or other.

I think the fact that you have a fistula...the burning is from that as well....it all needs to be dealt with.

I'm wondering...and this is a long-shot and not a very good one...could you possibly have a bladder/rectal fistula?

Have you been checked for interstitial cyctitis?

You need to see a urologist and all the docs need to get together to get you diagnosed properly. I don't know how they diagnose fistulas to see if there are others, but maybe a cat scan or an MRI or ultrasound....

I truly feel for you, but can only imagine your pain. I have a friend with fistulising crohn's.....it took a while for her diagnosis.

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


therearemiracles
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Total Posts : 3670
   Posted 5/7/2009 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Heather,

I pick up both my scripts today, Diflucan and Bentylol, I can't imagine what this is going to cost with out prescription coverage :( ya know I was reading and thinking the same thing about bladder fistula and maybe that's why I'm getting a reoccuring UTI. Would my rectal doc be able to tell this? My appt with the rectal doctor is 6/3, it blows my mind that I said how much pain I'm in (which it's not bad if I don't go diarreah a lot) that they still put me off for a whole month! I think it's wrong, really. I'm using Vitamin E suppositories to help with the burning. Also the rectal doc is sending out nitroglycerin to help with the burning until I see him.

Guess what? One of my test came back and said low magnesium and when I read up about this magnesium is suppose to help with cramping. I read most chrons patients are low in magnesium b/c the gut isn't absorbing like it should. I know not to take too much be of the diarreah effect, but there's a host of problems that you can have if you magnesium is low.

I do my allergy testing on June 1st. Right now for two days no bleeding. I can't do spicy or salads that makes me bleed. My stools are no way formed they are mushy and smell terrible a lot of the time. When I took the mirror and look it looks like a hemmroid that has a hole in it. Does everyone's rectum come (mine is purple in color b/c of the hemmroids which they said I really don't have) out when they poop? Isn't your butt just suppose to open wider for the stool? So that's probably the inflammation huh?( I'm glad no one can see my face or who I am for writing this, it's embarrassng!)

You're awesome for reading and writing back. Thanks for remembering me, this by far is the best site for support!
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/7/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi...your situation is extremely complicated and I cannot see a doctor NOT wanting to get it all sorted out. maybe you should see an anorectal surgeon for a second opinion.....I'll have to ask my friend what tests she had to find out she has multiple fistulas.

The fact that you have infection from an abscess could be part of the reason bms smell bad. As well, they will add a smell...so it can be quite confusing.

Well, one's butt is "supposed to just open when having a bm, but depending on how hard one might push will push out part of the anus....usually it will retract back to its original position.

Add hemmies either external or internal, inflammation, fissures...etc, I can't see how one's butt wouldn't be blue or purple and swollen...lots happening in one area.

I have external hemmies, a fissure and a small tag from the fissure and when the fissure is opened, everything is OK for a while...but the external hemmie starts to flare soon afterward if I don't deal with it. I do find, however, that if I don't deal with either, I do seem to flare as well...so, the connection is hemmies is a precurser or are a symptom of a flare, or are the hemmies first and with the constant "feeling" does it add to the distress and encourage a flare?

Yeah, this is a pretty good place to frequent..lol! Support, however, is subjective.

Hope the meds work to have you feeling better soon....but do continue to find more answers.....

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/7/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Can you believe I'm low in magnesium and they want me to take a magnesium citrate that's suppose to give you a laxative effect. I will enter into this supplement very slowly!

Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/7/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Or...you may want to read and consider ucfromutah's spinach/seeds diet....

Who wants to give you magnesium supplement?

Would you be taking it with calcium and all the other goodies so that your body will absorb it?

What probiotics are you using?

Are you taking any fibre supplements?

quincy
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


fruitgirl
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   Posted 5/7/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Avocadoes also have a lot of magnesium (and fiber!), which is perhaps why they seem to help me. Or, it could be the oils. Who knows. I haven't completley figured that out, yet, though. I'm going to eat them for the rest of this week, then not have any for the next couple of weeks and see what happens. If I get bad again, I'll start eating them again, and if it helps, yay!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/7/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
My allergist did 9 viels of blood and one thing he checked was vitamin D Levels and Magnesium and mag was low and he said no on taking it with calcium and/or zinc. It's low enough where I need a supplement eating food would help but not do the trick.
We'll see I have another call in just to make sure that the nurse said it right.
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/8/2009 12:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Let me know how it goes with the meds. Magnesium citrate is apparently easier to assimilate.

Hope you feel better soon....

q
*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 


therearemiracles
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   Posted 5/8/2009 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I took only one 200mg of magnesium and I bloated up and poop about six times, is that in my head I don't know? I started Advanced Inflammation Control today, back on probiotics, off Cipro as of yesterday morning. Took a Diflucan, hopefully things will gel and I feel great without the antibiotics. I will keep you posted. Oh the Bentylol is 10mg, turquoise colored capsules, I wish it was something like a caplet to break in half, 10mg I don't want to feel stoned like I did with Lomotil (I know they are different drugs but they slow you down anyways right). Thanks again.

Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC. Started LDN ON 1/25/09, stopped LDN on 5/1/09 didn't seem to help. Supplements: Probiotics, Cipro antibiotics 4/29 for 8 days seems to be helping, no bleeding right now.


quincy
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   Posted 5/8/2009 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
You have to at least try them so that you know what the effects will be before assuming otherwise.

Take it at night about half an hour before bedtime or at bedtime...to start. It's made to sort out the spasming, basically. You know like when you bump into something and then you rub it...feels better? Same sort of thing....but won't imobilise the colon as does lomotil or imodium...unless you took a very high dosage often.

Keep us posted.

q


*Heather* Status: mild flare enemas tapered to every 3rd night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~UC meds: Asacol (3 x2 daily); Salofalk enemas nightly for flares & taper to maintenance 
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed; Ranitidine (reflux);  Effexor XR 75mg(depression);  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma) 
~vitamins/minerals/supplementsProbiotics....(Natural Factors Protec, Primadophilus Reuteri Pearls). @ bedtime
~various digestive enzymes as needed
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!
 

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